agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? (Read 151 times) Re: Do you agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? « Reply #15 on: May 26, 2006, 09:35:41 pm » In ancient times, Muslim armies attacked Hindus in India causing many to move east into Nepal. Slowly they came into contact with native tribes (most of Mongolian descent) of modern Nepal. Extracted from an Indian book. I suggest Mr jai Nepal you are one of the few disillusioned ones to believe that Hinduism originated in nepal itself?? Yes We should appreciate the peaceful and hormonial nature of the nepalese --that they have started to adapt themselves to hindu culture -though there are often anger expressed in communities like Newar or Gurung( for having their own culture supressed and having introduced caste heirarchy on thier own community -ever since they started inclining twds hinduism) A good suggestion for you to read is a book by Dhor bahadur Bista. You will get the reflection on how hinduism started in Nepal and how history has been biased to the original rulers of nepal-the natives(Janjatis) Re: Do you agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? « Reply #16 on: May 26, 2006, 09:47:30 pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am not worried about how Hinduism started in nepal and where did it migrate from. From the moment I was born and till I die I am a Hindu. I am not a hardliner, nor religious either but I strongly beleive that Nepal should remain a Hindu nation. It has given us a reason to remain United and fight against other faiths who try to disintegrate us. I simply feel proud to be called Nepali and Hindu, and they go side by side for me ( I think not just me, everyone - even for muna). I simply can't understand, how politicians think nepal can be a better place by calling it a secular state. Do we want to be like western countries, where they no relegion and faith. Hinduism is not simply a relegion to me but it is my faith, a sense of wisdom and a proud history. Even jai nepal has mentioned Hinduism to have rooted deep down in the history. Why should we loose our deep root, simply because these politicians want a big piece of Pie. I agree with your problem of caste system. Yeah we can bring new laws for it or strengthen the existing one. The source of ur problem is not relegion it is racism, castism and sexism. I think we should stick to nepal as Hindu country but overcome the cast, race and sex discrimation side of thing. The answer to the question is - NO I DON'T AGREE AND I WILL NEVER AGREE. Logged Muna Newbie Posts: 8 Re: Do you agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? « Reply #17 on: Today at 02:05:05 am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEOPLE HAVE REALIZED THE NEED FOR SECULARISING A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY AGAINST ONE TAG IMPOSED ON IT. IT IS HIGH TIME ..WE SHOULD BE LESS PROUD OF BEING CALLED A KINGDOM(DOESNT EXIST IN TODAY'S WORLD ,ONLY EXISTED DURING THE SLAVERY AGE) OR LESS PROUD OF BEING CALLED THE ONLY HINDU COUNTRY BUT MORE SHAMEFUL TO BE CALLED THE MOST POVERY STRUCK COUNTRY. EVEB THE PURE HINDUS ( BRAHMINS-....E,G. SO CALLED DR. BABURAM) HAVE REALIZED THAT.THE BRAHMINS ARE OFTEN BLAMED .... IN FACT FACES THE WORST VOCAL DISCRIMINATION ....BEING CALLED SHREWD, CHEAT, TAPARA...BAHUN BAJE ( THOUGH THEY MAY NO LONGER PERFORM THEIR ANCESTRAL HINDU OCCUPATIONS...WHO INFACT ARE POWERFUL LEADERS TODAY). WHY ARE THEY OFTEN EXPRESSED HATRED EVEN THOUGH INFACT THERE ARE POOREST OF POOREST BRAHMIN-CHETTRIS IN NEPAL . WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THESE HATRED ... WHY IS THE COUNTRY SO POOR ?? WHY ARE THE PEOPLE SO IGNORANT?? WHY CANT NEPALESE STILL MAKE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ANIMALS AND MEN?? WHY ARE THE EXTREMIST SO WORRIED ABOUT A COW BEING BUTCHERED BUT LESS BOTHERED TO FIND THE ROOT CAUSE FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE BEING KILLED? HOW CAN THEY BE FOOLED....BELIEVING A NORMAL PERSON TO BE BISHNU'S INCARNATION INFACT THE IGNORANT HINDUS STILL BELIEVE THAT IN THE VILLAGES??? WHY DONT THEY REALISE THAT WAS A SETUP ...A POTICAL PLOY ...ESP AT THE ERA WHEN PEOPLE WERE BLIND AND IGNORANT?? WHY CANT WE ACCEPT CIVILISATION OR GLOBALISATION IF IT 'S HEALTHY FOR ALL THE NATION?? NOW THAT THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN DECLARED SECULAR...I AM SURE THEIR WOULD BE LESS SUPPORT FOR MAOISTS...WHO ALSO GAINED POPULARITY AMONG COMMUNITIES WHO ALWAYS FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE TERM HINDU NATION BEING IMPOSED Logged Bayan Newbie Posts: 39 Re: Do you agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? « Reply #18 on: Today at 05:58:42 am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with that Muna reads a lot and she really has great knowledge. But I can not agree with her thoughts with respect to this topic of discussion. You have to experience a real life among muslim people, especially from the middle east to feel how they relate to you as a Hindu. During my study in Ukraine, I had many muslim institute-mates and class-mates from the middle east (Siriya, Palestine, Oman, Yaman, Lebnon, Sudan, Somaliya, Iraq, Iran, Egypt). I was only one nepali in the city and at the university. But their number was more than 40. When one of them needed help in doing assignments, projects and even in exams they came to me with request, and I had always helped. But at other times they behaved with me like no better than dust on their feet. So, based on my experience, I think within 10 years you will have to fear to tell that you are a Hindu, if this is not reverted. Logged NepaliBabu Newbie Posts: 1 Re: Do you agree with parliament's decision to declare Nepal a secular state? « Reply #19 on: Today at 02:43:49 pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes I do agree . This is what the need of present world. There should not be politics in religoin , race , colour and the topic of humanity.And the natoin is in the edge of change Our leaders should not trable to go with the need and wind of change around the world. This era wants the secular world not even a state. Every leader should think globally not in the contrary of Country. If any organizatoin or party does politics in religin they will get the big slap ppl as BJP got in India. Still there is a big racial problem in Nepal as Gvt and other too are announcing the quota for Dalit , mahila , janajati bla bla ... i dont feel this is the way of secular. If every ppl need right than just go democratically. Every ppl should achive with their skills and educatoin.