KOOLDUDE - come over one day and i'll take you around my neighbourhood to meet at least 10 families just like what i am taking about hai? ;) texan - okay! but there's a difference between the visa and the DV ke cause only the quailified get the visa whereas the DV every little worm gets it ke! and do i want worms going above my head??? hell no!!!!!!!!! all i am saying is that if the DV is luck then it should be given to those who deserve it ke not just to anyone just because they were able to fill out the form by asking someonelse to do it for them because they don't even know how to write ke!!!!!!!!