why are we talking dogma here... dogma is only symbolic and not real... what is real is you and me and what is we see, hear, taste, smell and touch around us... and that is it... nothing else.. that's it.. it's all about language. we only know what is we receive through these five senses. what we feel are only the processes of what we receive through these five input. if we have never seen anything.. we can never imagine, think or dream anything visual... ask a blind man by birth what he dreams about... he only dreams sound...