yes, we realize the 85x35 is too small...so let's allow up to 100x50... however, let's trim the unused space from both top/bottom (so it may be < 50). let's not add any additional effects... i realize every frame of the animation adds to the size of the GIF, and we'd like to keep the GIF as small (in bytes) as possible... Certainly not more than 20KB. so no further effects pls... i think your animation (the type-writer effect only) on debsa's background/pattern would look pretty good. sorry to be PIA! thx.