debsa--please consider what_more's suggestions... Maybe you could come up with a few different designs with different text....and we could pick one or two depending on what we like? it's kinda hard to say until we get to see the visuals! Un_Forgiven--sorry, part of the problem is that we only vaguely know what we want and don't want that to confine an artist's creativity... so if you can come up with something that's really good but doesn't meet the described specs, that'd be great too.... a super cool creative piece is what we need. lets say, that's the specs!