Hahaha, moneyminded as to be the funniest guy on this board. Yes, that works well. One line I like to use is this: "Hey my underwear matches your skirt, wanna see it"? Worked like a charm. Also, acquire a photo of some hot random chic, and then show it to the gal you have a thing for: "This is my fiance who died recently". Got this one from George Costanza, if anybody's familiar with him. Cantstandya as I call him.