Shaive, You are misquoting me. My point was, in the spirit of a NEUTRAL kura-kani: If Girija ko supporters say that he and his fellow-netas need time to evolve, would the same argument not be seized by those supporting the palace? When that happens, this sort of "we need time for evolution" kura-kani does NOT really add to the debate. BETTER TO SAY: Look, Girija et al, you guys have had your time. You blew it. Not once. Not twice. But repeatedly. Either you are really stupid or you just don't have faith in others to do your job. If neither, then, step aside now, and let OTHERS do whatever that needs to be done to get the country out of this mess. Let the janata see FRESH and NEW faces with fresh agenda and new energy. Ther's nothing more enrgizing that a fresh beginning. The longer you stay at the helm, the more you drain everyone's enrgy, and the more damaging it is for EVERYONE's democratic aspirations and the easier it will be for the king to do keep on doing what he does. oohi ashu