This thread signifies what is really wrong with our society…. We want democracy but we don’t want check and balances. “Why should the rule apply to me, I am honest... it’s he who is dishonest so the rule should apply to him.” This sort of attitude must change before we see any real changes in Nepal. Ashu, let me assure you that I am in no way doubting San’s honesty and integrity. I met him in the mid-nineties in Minnesota and I have friends who are close friends to him. I am certain that he is a person of great integrity, honesty, and poise – of this I have no doubt. He is out there to do good for our community and we should all be proud of him and his work. With that said, let me point out to you my points since you have chosen to completely miss or ignore them. So here are the clarifications: 1) Whenever a contribution is requested from general public, the system should be accountable and transparent – it doesn’t matter whether you donate 10 cents or 10000 dollars. 2) My mention of Pushkar was not meant to demean San or the site in anyway but to stress that rule of accountability and transparency should apply the same way to both HONEST individuals like San and the shady characters like Pushkar. Our attitudes that the rules should apply to everyone else but not to me is pitiful. That’s what democracy is all about. All men are created equal … isn’t that the prime theme of US constitution – supposedly the greatest democracy in the world? 3) I do commend you for pushing this issue and ask Sajhaites to contribute to Sajha however don’t try to scare people away from asking hard questions by attacking them personally – that would be undemocratic. Now let me address your personal comments to me. I have made three calculated “moves” so to speak: 1) I stated at the outset that you are “pandering” 2) That you are putting your own spin on things similar to what GWB’s staff do. 3) I mimicked you by using QUOTE UNQUTE … 4) I pointed out that you are not calling spade a spade but actually calling spade a “manual ferrous-wooden convex excavator” which you stated that you never do. Aside from comparing your ideas and methods of persuasions to methods and techniques used by American Righties, I have not personally attacked you in any way. On the other hand you go into an angry emotional attack of me for the apparent reason that you can not defend your points of views in more civil manner which you refer to as “nose-picking morality” and “morally tightass.” I am ok with that. I am not offended. In a public forum, it happens. People make assumptions about you and go into hypocritical attacks because they did not get their tea in bed that morning or something!! After reading your last posting addressed to me I went and talked to a few of my friends who frequent Sajha. I asked them about you. I wanted to know more about this individual who thinks he is taking a high ground by vehemently calling me names, making assumptions about me, and attacking me. Who is he? Well I found out. You stated that I attacked you and you put it this way:”In this PUBLIC FORUM it's obvious that -- for reasons known best only to you and you alone -- you do NOT like me, and that you feel an exaggerated need to attack me (now) by comparing me to some of GWB's workers . . . without, of course, having the dignity to attack my ideas.” First of all I want to say that I did not know you and I don’t waste my emotions like “likes” and “dislikes” on people I don’t know about. So your paranoia that I did not like you is a fallacy and misguided. Second, you felt the need to think of yourself as a victim (poor Ashu)… I am being attacked even when you weren’t. What is that all about? Only you can answer that – and I don’t really care to know the answer. Finally you stated that I attacked you without having “the dignity to attack” your ideas. Excuse me? Go back and read your own postings and do some self examination and decide who lacks dignity and goes into personal attacks without cause. Well I know more about you now so let me be clear on this attack issue. At the time I couldn’t have attacked you because I did not know that you were spoiled academic elitist who went to Harvard (my buddies did not know whether you graduated or not), left US, and went to back to Nepal where he is totally frustrated that he cannot practice what he learned in the US. You want proper democratic RULES in place but you do not want the rules to apply to you or your friends because you consider yourself and your friends TRUSTWORTHY and beyond doubts – god forbid anyone should question your clan. You attack furiously if your ideas and methods are ever questioned, I am sorry to say just like the Righties in the US. I spend couple of hours last night doing some reading; I went to NepaliTimes and read some of the stuff that you have been writing … I will admit they are commendable and your heart is in good place but PLEASE keep an open mind to other people’s ideas and thoughts even if they don’t match yours. Don’t attack!!! Finally on a lighter note I have to say you calling me a “Ms. Moral Tightass” is funniest of all the assumptions. You fell into your own "stereotypye trap" because my real name is Lal Prasad Risal thus my nick LalPaRi!! Anyway stay well … keep open mind!!