iZen-ji, Conservatives like to comfort themselves with the established social norms without ever doubting it whereas the liberals are allured to substitute with better solutions. Definition # 18292123212 of "Conservatives" and "Liberals". These terms wouldn't exist but for the survival strategy of our politicians and political scientists. :-) Absolutism and blind-faith is an example of conservatism. What do you call Michael Moore? He's got both. You see the problem? what_more is right. The gray matter thats visible in the heads of both aisles is neither black nor white. Isn't that why it's gray? ;-) The rational human mind embraces moderate views in general "Moderate" to the individual thinking "rational". i.e. both are relative. Religion is not opium but religion in an absence of logic is worst than opium. Doesn't it cease to be religion if it's got reason and logic? Where are thirty-three carore divine gods when more than half of the population is struggling to merely survive? Ah, Gods are to blame, eh! Pat Robertson would love what you just said. And, man, be "liberal" in the use of spaces and carriage returns. It hurt my eyes. ;-) Good discussion, nevertheless. I like your references of the Gita. I gotta learn more... :-)