As you said thuged out, he might be in denial. But the way I see it sometime people like Tookie do not have any choice. I think govt is also to blame for people who turn into gangs. I think you know what I am talking about. The US govt has so much money. I think they are capable of cleaning up the Ghetto messes and managing the housing projects. But they do not care because thats how they keep control of citizens. The control of few powefuls at the top.