>>coolnepali Any party, no matter however big names they have behind them, cannot have an accurate estimate of the number of accesses a web server has received unless they 1) have a complete access to the web server ( rights to view the log files of the web server at the least ) or 2) peek all the internet traffic to and from the webserver ( something only the ISP that provides internet access to the web server can do and is illegal ) or 3) receive an access for every access the web server to be accounted receives ( this is how sites like extremetracking.com or webstats4u.com etc work ) and they cannot do that unless the administrator of the web site ( to be accounted ) configures it himself. or 4) own the Internet ( that's imf88kingpossible) Your dogmatism is a result of your ignorance ( of the Internet architecture and of the way the Internet is engineered ) . Don't argue about things you have no idea about especially with a man, who has been administrating one of the largest nepali sites today for years. How wud u feel if a boy of four comes to you and argues that 4+4 = 9 'coz his teacher, who he thinks is grf**king8 told him so?