Posted by: isolated freak July 15, 2005
Bichara Shiva Shrestha...
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"ISO, You can -- and you have -- blame(d) me for trying to impose my opinion on you. By the same token, I can also blame you for trying to impose your opinion on me if I want to. " Anil ji, Yes I have. I take the responsibility for my words. I accused you, but I also pointed out the flaws (as I see it) in your arguments. You are free to say the same thing about me. Like I said earlier in some other thread, we are not discussing ideas here, we are spreading our respective agendas and propaganda. " Having said that, I am afraid I cannot continue with this discussion without repeating myself now. I have said all I had to say, and I'd hate to engage in a never-ending cycle of debates with you. Particularly with someone who is willing to offer a DHOG to a filthy personality like Paras, there is nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise. I am sure you feel the same way about me too. No hard feelings -- that's just the way it is. I shall respectfully agree to disagree with you FUNDAMENTALLY and end it here before this political/ideological debate begins to take a toll on our personal relationship. " Yes we are repeating ad nauseum here. And I too have lost my interest and patience to discuss with you because of your self-righteousness and the way you tend to see yoursleves (and everyone who supports you) on a higher moral plane, and ridicule others as "manipulated people with slave mentality". How I show my respect to the Crown Prince or other members of the Royal family is my business, and as long as the institution remains a constitutional institution, and as long as I retain my Nepali passport, I will follow what the society wants me to follow, what the norms and tradition dictates and what the people expect me to do in official functions or in public. I cannot and will not be a heretic and violate or go against the social norms and expectations, whether that pleases you or offends you. As a citizen of the Kingdom of Nepal, I will follow what the majaority follows. Its my tradition, my culture and I have my freewill to follow them as long as it is socially, culturally and politically required and accepted. I am not a harbinger of social and political change like you and your compatriots here. As of today, for the most part, I am happy with how the Nepali society functions socially, culturally and politically. Look Anil ji, let me for the last time repeat myslef: I didn't have any objection to your views. Among 23.4 million nepalis, there are probably 3.4 million who share your views, and I have no objection to them thinking differently than me. What I objected to is the way you phrased your sentence here in this thread. You KNOWINGLY or UNKNOWINGLY phrased your sentence in a way which insults the collective thinking and cultural practice of the majority Nepali. And in my view, this is not right. You can like the institution of monarchy, hate it, it does not matter, but when you consider who do respect the institution as manipulated, its quiteculturally insensetive comment to make in public. As a stduent of IR, I didn't expect to read such statements/sentences from a fellow IR student, and to be honest, your "generalization" of other cultures/peoples, similar to what the early victorian arm-chair anthropologists used to make, disappointed me. I am not being your advisor or anything because I fully know that you fully know what you need to do and know, but as a well wisher, let me offer an unsolicitaed advice: Why not pick up a book or two on socio-cultural anthropology when you have time and further your already wide ranging knowledge on culture and social values, norms and institutions? Ruth Benedict's classic, Patterns of Culture might be a good place to start. Just a suggestion. Anyways, I don't want to waste your time or my time typing a lengthy reply. I think I made myslef pretty clear, and you did the same. Mercy Beaucoup. Like you said, let us be happy.. let us drink to our differences- Gan Bei! " It is not our differences that divide us, it is our inability to recognize, accept and celebrate those differences " -- Audre Lorde
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