Trying to get back to the issue of TND.. I had always enjoyed TND, simply put it was a job well done and the people involved deserve nothing but praise for such quality voluntary work. However the internal politics, dispute and the difference in opinion between the administration and management (figuratively speaking) got TND down. That is my opinion as an outsider. About personal attacks on Ashu, it is nothing new in Sajha. I have seen this over and again that people with difference in opinion simply cannot accept or disagree with each other in civility and they have to get personal, be offensive and throw adjectives. Many times it is an opportunity to "get back" for the disagreements in other threads. Couldn?t agree more with Poonte when he said we need "cultural revolution" I think he means we need to learn how to agree on disagreements and respect each others opinion even though it varies in Dan Qualye's quote (joke) "360 degrees" (ok, I have to say only half of 360 degrees will do) This is not the forum to present my personal opinion about Ashu, Nepe, IF and others however I would like to say that I respect for who you are and what you stand for. The difference in opinion makes Sajha interesting and a wonderful where ideas brew and expand, let that wonder spread every where except we keep the personal attacks to ourselves and set example how to communicate without offending others. Peace