and sorry for this disgression: If sajha democrats are real democrats and not just idealists looking for popular support, then start criticizing the non-democratic ways of your comrades-in-arms. If you are in my camp, you have "Saya khat maaf" won't work. People geta way branding/labeling or making wild assumptions about others. What kind of democracy that you all believe in? Is it orwellian democracy- "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others?" Anil ji, You can use the example of this thread to compare/contrast MR JOSSE for your next piece!