Newuser ji, Of course I take it as a healthy debate between the fellow sajhaities, unless some people tend to accuse ( no less ) others simply because they tend to have differing views. A healthy respect between two souls are must for a healthy constructive analysis and arguments. Let me start the note on this healthy respect that I have for you and other sajhaities who might/might not concur with my 'personal' beliefs. And please note, I understand the arguments raised by the people concerned with the rally, and have no reservation, moral or otherwise, of their rights and motives to hold one, but I do however I stand by my words on previous posting. Now, newuser ji let me move on to your points." Forget not taking part,....... prepared to take the criticism of being supportive to the King's camp or at least.............the country." Let us not get too emotional here newuser ji, but you said I directly raised the question about the intention and purpose of the rally and when I do that, I should be able to face the 'criticism' for doing that. And I thought, reasoning would be a better choice. My reference regarding the rally was a result of bitter taste of many rallies that our nation has suffered. And when I try to point it out, I 'deserve' critism of being a king's camper (no less) eh? Woah, newuser ji, good logic. My understanding however newuser ji is, this very logic or shall I say a rather obdurate logic is the root cause of rift between us Nepalese. If you are not with us, you are against us, eh? That is a good start to unite people for a mass movement I must say. So my those comments saying "Hune kehi hoina.." "Dhunga muda garna paindaina etc" made me undemocratic. Isn't democracy all about agreeing to disagree and yet have a healthy reservation, arguments? Or is it agreeing to agree and if someone disagrees, term them as undemocratic? "Secondly, you have been very critical of the Nepali leaders and at the same time you are unable to provide your service as a leader. May be politics is not your cup of tea, but if you cannot make any contribution for the betterment of leadership, you will loose your rights to criticize against any flaws from the leadership in the future that could have been avoided with the help of your contribution. Hope you got my point." ----->You said, if I am critical of the leader and am unable to provide the leadership, I loose my right to criticize against any flaws. That is truly democratic opinion now newuser ji. Does that mean if I can not provide leadership I should meekly follow the one who in my opinion is not a leader? Yes, I am unable to provide leadership just like 99.999999999999999999999999999% of Nepalese and also 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people in the world. But that in no way shall curtain our rights to criticize the leader that you do not believe or have respect as a leader. Look around you newuser ji, does everyone around you go on the rallies, distribute pamplets, etc, against bush, putin, kerry, Clinton or whoever they do not hold in high regards? Does that inaction curtail them of their rights to criticize? So much for democracy. I do not have any hard and fast solution to the problem newuser ji, and neither does anyone. Everyone now has a mere opinion & their personal beliefs. And we each have right to exercise our beliefs without accusing other. To clarify more on my opinion & belief, I believe eventually Gyane have to give up his power, at least as an absolute monarch, and at best can remain as a symbolic institution much akin to England. He absolutely has to come under the law, like you and me. But my understanding is that day would come shortly once we satisfy the basic requirement that democracy needs to be nurtured, survive and florish. And needless to say that basic need is PEACE. Without it, democracy will be raped, stabbed, murdered time and time, yet again, just the way it is right now. Why should I in my opinion, go from one failing system to another with no hope and repeat the cycle yet again. In some time Gyane's failure or success to bring peace in broader spectrum will ultimately determine his and royalty?s fate. Regardless, absolute monarchy or monarchy above the law is not the option I stand for. I don't give damn even if it's abolished. "Either you have to take the King's camp or the anti-monarch camp or your own camp of leadership, if you want to have your say on the issue." ----->You said either I have to at King's camp or my own camp of leadership to have say in the issue. ? Yeso gaar natra usoo gaar, natra chup bass.? I would damn well voice my opinion even if I am not in one of your so called camp. And your way of seeing is not the only way it is. And I do not EXPECT any Gyane, Nepe, you or me or anyone to bring overnight success. ?Prajantra layune bela ma maile dukkha garda oo guff lagaera basyo, aile prajantra aaepachhi bhaag khojne?? ----> If a leader says that, then he of course a 'good leader'. " If you think Gagan Thapa is not a leader, why don't you become a leader yourself or else why don't you show a third person who is the right candidate? And if you don't have any alternative, why do you resort in criticizing Gagan, who in many people's view is the best among the worsts." ----->Yeah anyone can become, eh? I don?t think he is a leader, then to prove that I have to be a leader, and someone would not agree I am a leader then s/he can be a leader. Leaders are not candies we buy in a candy shop newuser ji. And just because one can not provide leadership doesn?t have to loose his voice to criticize others. Imagine the scenario where everyone is a leader. In fact, that's exactly the scenario in Nepal. Leaders' mushrooms all over, and we blindly follow them. I am sick and tired of dozens and dozens of so called a leader who promises much but delivers none. As yet, no one has inspired me much to say, yeah this is the one I believe in, and it's your good that someone has yet again inspired you. Perhaps, someone might inspire me too in coming days. AS of now, it has not happened. Vis-a-vis democracy and freedom, let's us imagine that some are walking on a holy path and others who believe in the same conclusion but are not concurring with the language and tune they are choosing, are opponents. If not anything, consider them brothers who have their own opinion, and if possible inspire them to believe in the path. If you are not for us, you are against us will not lead anyone anywhere. At best, a half baked cookie is all one can get. Thus, let us hope that we can agree that our way is not the only way to do; it is not the only way to be. ( Newuser bro, mero pani lamo bhayo. And nah i did not take it otherwise. I know where you stand and you know where I stand. To each to there own.)