Rythm go ahead..no worries : )...damn i could not stop too. What makes a week old fetus human? Is it the presence of human DNA? Would a skin graft grown from human DNA be human? Would a kidney? Perhaps the term human is not descriptive enough, would the term "a person" more clearly convey my meaning? Is a week old fetus a person? Murder only involves killing a person, does it not? Turning off life support for a human body which is in a permanent vegetative state is not murder is it? Clearly more than the presence of human body parts is needed for an organism to be a person. You can argue that a brain dead body will never again be a person, while a fetus can potentially become a person. Would you consider a baby born anacephalic, (without a brain), a person? I would argue that a fetus is not and never has been a person, so therefore has no right to develop against the wishes of the mother who IS a person and DOES have rights. As for the docto's testimony, would it surprise you to learn that doctor's too can base their opinions on religious or philosophical, (as opposed to scientific), beliefs? Would it surprise you to learn that these doctors could have been selected for the testimony they would give? Or that it would have been very easy to find just as many doctors who would NOT consider a fetus human, (in the sense of being a person with rights, not as opposed to being a dog or earthworm), and would have strongly supported abortion rights? There are, obviously, no scientific grounds to make the claim that at the moment of fertilization the egg becomes a "person." Perhaps the pro-lifers debating here should hold off on patting yourselves on the back for having won the debate for a little while longer... The claim is that no challenge to evidence presented for the pro-lifers has been made. I would say no evidence to support the position that a fetus has rights has been presented. Sure, you have quotes from doctors saying the fetus is alive, but that does not make it a person with rights. I was hoping to keep this short, but what the heck I'll continue...... * "Father of Modern Genetics" Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: "To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion ... it is plain experimental evidence." What experimental evidence? A new human as opposed to a fish? * Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: "By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception." Life is present, but a person? * Dr. McCarthy de Mere, medical doctor and law professor, University of Tennessee, testified: "The exact moment of the beginning of personhood and of the human body is at the moment of conception." pHEWWWW done now.