again here we go again.... I don't think the embryo and fetus up to that point are humans. They are not capable of life outside the womb, and thus are more a part of the woman's body than a unique entity. So science once again can clear this issue up, and determine when the baby can live out of the womb. Abortion is OK before a certain time, because the fetus isn't technically alive before then. 2: Murder isn't OK anytime! Slaughtering innocent children is murder! *repeat* Life is just freakin'g overrated anyway. I, personally, define life as viable biological function. No more, no less, no different. I'm not even going to get into whatever 'soul' might be. That'd be impossible to discuss even if there were some basis in perception to start from - it's just plain intangible. And please don't preach to me; I guarantee it'll be a waste of your time. I'm not agnostic merely for the hell of it, you know.