Sakumaku, I agree with the points, but they look each individual case case by case basis, My dad renewed visit visa after i become citizen( they should already know possible situation) still granted visa. Now i have kids and he enjoy to stay here that's all. Will see, I guess they will approve my appeal 290B form, The instruction said you can file appeal with in 30 days of this decision and another sentence says authorized to stay has been expired leave US within 30 days. so confusing... Any way lets hope... this may be good lesson for other saJha members too.