Oops, John_s dude, I meant to post my recent post on teh other thread about "we are bheda" or somehting like that. But nevermind, you get the picture. The things I have said may not make sense to you becuase, yes, it sometimes becomes quite complicated to people whose whole life and world revolves around some holy dude, be it jesus or mohammed or someone else. One with an open and good heart should not have any difficulty in understanding it. But I am glad that you have toned down your voice from talking about all-knowing everywhere-present jesus to somethign else. bhagwan le timilai sadbuddhhi pradan garun om shanti shanti