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 Is prophet Muhammad mentioned in the Hindu scriptures?

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Posted on 08-11-12 5:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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My dear brothers and sisters:
Did you know prophet Muhammad is mentioned in the Hindu ures?
 
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 mazzarella, would you mind sharing your experience how God revealed himself to you? 
 
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sure i will try my best though it is a long story but i will try to keep it short and sweet. I was born and raised in kathmandu very much was into my religion i belong to a chettri family . Since about the age of 9 i decided not to eat meat . i was a vegetarian my favorite god was mahankal bhairab. i was a fan of astha telivision. I searched god from as long as i remember. even though i was very much into rituals and stuff i was very much empty inside. I come from a broken home . there was always quarrel in the family i felt helpless most of the time. I was sexually abused by my mama when i was a little girl. i blamed most of it on myself i had a very bad inferiority complex. So to fit in i got into having wrong friend at the wrong time . Then came to a point where i planned suicide.Through all this there wass a little hope of someday being able to go to USA. that was my only hope to run away from alll this and start all over again. And it happened august 2006.   I was very very happy. i went to all the temples that i could before i left KTM.But after coming here my dreams where shatter knowing how hard it is to make it in usa without having support from family. i was broken hearted and had no money. This big city was full of filth as well. Experience in dhoti restaurant was horrible. I was running out of all options . while i thought of going back home with what face i do not know. But some how i met a person a man who seemed different. Something was different about this guy. He had a very positive attitude towards life and he was a happy person something opposite to me. He was a white man and people who i was living with that time told me to stay away from him because white guys will just use you and trow you. But i knew from the beginning that he was not that kind. Dose not matter what color you are anyway there are plenty nepali guys who are like that. His views were very conservative in his beliefs. He was a Christian guy. and loved the Lord its funny you respect God but i don't know if you can love God . But he did . when i would ask who does he love the most he would say God .He had a relationship with the Lord.He stayed uncorrupted by this world while knowing that we all make mistakes and God forgives us. I being a very strong hindu rejected Jesus.  But i was very curious at the mean time. So i started reading the bible which was a gibberish  for me could not understand a thing. I was getting frustrated and i prayed and asked if there be a one true God that He would revel Himself to me. That i want to know the truth. Then one day i was just staring at the cross i don't even know why and i heard a voice and it said I AM HE. The one true God. i could not believe what had just happend it was just like a veil was lifted off me. like in the bible it says that i was blind and now i can see. There has to be just one God the God who loves us the God who made us the God who has a purpose for us. We are not just like animals we are more then animals we were created in the image of God . and the astounding thing for me was that He loved me He said He died for me that is how much that he loved me. That i was not a worthless human being i was a very important person He created me for reason. After that when i opened the bible i could understand it. It was no longer gibberish for me. It all made sense to me. Brothers and sisters God loves you He has a purpose for you . In your due time He will reveal himself to you all you need to do is ask. You are very very important to you. He is a God of love . We as a christain have two commandments Love thy God with all your heart .which was silly for me before but now i can say confidently that i love him beyond anything or anyone He comes first in my life and i feel his love in my life and the second commandment is Love each other as you love yourself.   In order to love others as you do yourself you have to be able to love yourself and after knowing God i knew that i am important and i am loved . Brothers and sisters i am a very happy mother of two boys right now. God has not only changed my life but also of my family one by one they are coming to the Lord. i have see sick get healed in front of me all the mighty things of God that only one true one can do. Search and you will find says in the bible. All you need to do is to be searching if your heart is at the right place He will show you. ask and you will be given so you need to ask first. i can keep going on and on about this but i urge if there is any Christain here in saja please share your testimony as well.


 
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 Homey aka nagarikreport aka mridula aka.............................. strikes again. I believe most of us know that who this person is. Better stop feeding a troll. If you know his history  on sajha, you also know that how much attention seeker he is. 
 
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Hi Mazzarella,

I knew a guy  long time ago, who went through the exact - similar experience as yours. He had a similar messed - up childhood. Here's his testimonial:

http://www.endtimeharvests999.com/testimony11.htm


In the end, he was diagnosed with serious mental issues and was shipped back to Nepal. With my experience while dealing with this person, I suggest you to seek professional help, instead of religious help and preaching about it.

I'm very sorry for what you needed to go through.

HTH.
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 Mazzarella ,
   U have a serious mental issue.. ur only hope is doctor not god ..sorry !!
 
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To ServantofGod

Please read the comments on this yahoo news (link below) and then reply.


 http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-girl-accused-blasphemy-traumatized-activist-101254340.html
 
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 Mazarella, 
Sorry to hear about your ordeal and good to know that you have found some solace and comfort. 


 
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 Let me share my story with you:

In the name of GOD, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful!

AsSalaamu Alaikum wa Ramhmatullahi wa Barakatuhu (May Peace, Mercy, and Blessings of Almighty GOD Be Upon You),

 

Dear Brothers and Sisters ,  

For the first and foremost, my search began in 2005, thank GOD, HE guided me to Islam in 2009. I was born and raised in a Hindu family. My Mom and i used to go to temple when i was young. My mom said when i was ready to walk. I was not able to walk properly but later everything went well by the blessings of GOD. Since i heard that from her, i always believed in GOD and HIS miracles. I was true believer in GOD but was not a seeker. I came to U.S. on 2001 and was just following the faith which i had been following. I saw the ups and downs of life after 911 as an immigrant and as a Eastern-Indian. I made few Muslim friends. But could not learn much Islam from them as they were not practicing either.
 

The real search began when i watched the video of Siddhi Baba (whom i used to follow) said "ALLAH". Thank GOD, i wanted to read "Al- Qur'an" and that is the guidance from GOD. While i was reading "The Qur'an", i started to attend friday prayers occassionally. Although i started to read "Al-Qur'an"  in 2005 but i was not doing five time prayers. I used to pray once in a day (most of the time). I moved to Colorado and than to Houston where i was not searching Islam as i should have been but was reading "Al-Qur'an" little by little and was praying only once a day (most of time). For an instance i attended most Jumah prayers but did not make any Muslim friends to talk about faith in Colorado. In Houston (where i lived few months), I made few Muslim friends but was not hanging out with them or reading "Al- Qur'an" much. I moved back to DFW area in May 2008. Since than i have been living with my sister, brother in-law and my nephew (s). The real Islam came to me when i fasted last year in Ramadan without even missing a fast and my faith was growing stronger everyday. My parents visted us last year during Dashain (which is a Hindu festival). I refused to put tika (which is considered as a blessing in Hindu faith) and i told them i have been practicing Al-Islam. I even invited them to Islam but they refused (Please pray for my family, would you???).

 

Since 2005 i was sure that this is a true religion. After Ramadan last year i was ready to be a Muslim but i was waiting for a real call. This year ((2009)  is when i embraced Islam.

Thank GOD guided me to Islam and this is the biggest blessing i have got in this whole life. All the praises and thanks to GOD alone.

Last not the least, I am trying to be a loyal slave of GOD and would like to make new friends!!!
 

Here is my short profile:

Name: Santosh Bhattarai

Sex: Male

Birth Country: Nepal

Current country: Irving, Texas,  U.S.

Ethnicity: Eastern Indian

Previous Religion: Hindu

Year Reverted: 2009
 

May GOD guide my mother, my family, my friends, everyone i know and all the children of our father and prophet Adam (upon whom be peace) to Al-Islam!!! May GOD bless all his prophets (peace be upon them). May GOD accept all our good deeds and bless everyone in this note with paradise. Ameen !!!

Appreciated !!!

With regards,

Santosh Bhattarai

 Email: santosh83@hotmail.com

 

Please ponder on these verses from Al-Qur'an:

 

"Today, I have completed your religion, perfected My blessing upon you, and I have decreed Submission as the religion for you." [5:3]

"And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so GOD shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ." [2:113]

" And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Abraham, the monotheist, and he was not one of the polytheists." [2:135]

 "And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of GOD; and the Christians say: The Messiah (Jesus) is the son of GOD; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may GOD destroy them; how they are turned away!" [9:30]

"And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of GOD and His beloved ones. Say: Why does HE then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom HE has created, HE forgives whom HE pleases and chastises whom HE pleases; and GOD's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to HIM is the eventual coming."[5:18] 

"Surely GOD will not forgive the association of partners (shirk) with HIM, but HE forgives (sins) less then that to whomever HE wishes". [4:48]

"I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to worship ME" [ 51:56]

 

 

"The similitude of Jesus before GOD is as that of Adam; HE created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was." [3:59]

 

Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! GOD giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from HIM: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to GOD.


 
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Some ppl are born to be a slave, If there is no one to enslave you then they ask  dark side of the brain  to enslave them. 
They always need Master, without master they are not full.When there is no one to be a master, they go to twisted thought to be their master.
Its not god, its malfunction of your genetic design that feels a need of master to be full.
 
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lets say you have a child who went outside to play and got himself dirty bfore you bring him inside what would you do well you will wash him exactly . That is what God did for us. He send him son to die for us as an atonment for our sins. that is why we no longer have to sacrfice goat or lamb Jesus was the perfect lamb of God who died for us and took upon himself the sins of the world. That is the face of a loving God who truely wants to save his creation who could not but bear to see anyone lost. His love is so great that there is no love like His. Islam is i believe the anti Christ that has been prophesied in the revelation. God is love noone can deny this. Blessed be the peace maker.Islam is not a religion of peace and they have proved it to the whole world.This is going to be too long but people who have no idea what i am talking about need not read this here is a proof of why muhammad was a false prophet.

THE DEUTERONOMY DEDUCTIONS:
Two Short, Sound, Simple Proofs that Muhammad Was a False Prophet

By David Wood

"But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have
not commanded him to speak . . . that prophet shall die."
~GOD (Deuteronomy18:20)[1]

"I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken."
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)[2]

Muhammad claimed that Jewish and Christian ures had predicted his coming (see, e.g., Qur’an 7:157). This has led Muslim apologists to comb the Old and New Testaments in search of passages that refer to their prophet. While all biblical evidence offered by Muslims in support of their prophet appears horribly strained to non-Muslims (provided the latter read the passages in context) and has been thoroughly refuted time and again, it is still common to hear Muslims claim that the Bible speaks about Muhammad.

The most popular "prophecy" about Muhammad is found in Deuteronomy 18. It is quite ironic, then, to learn that, according to Deuteronomy 18, Muhammad can’t possibly be a prophet. As we will see, this puts Muslims in an awkward position, and helps show the lengths to which they will go in their efforts to defend their prophet.

The purpose of this essay is to prove, based on Muslim claims (including their appeal to Deuteronomy 18), that Muhammad was a false prophet. I will begin by presenting two arguments against the prophethood of Muhammad, and I will follow this by carefully defending the arguments. Once I have shown that the arguments are sound, I will briefly discuss the options available to Muslims who want to reject the obvious conclusion.

I. THE DEUTERONOMY DEDUCTIONS

There are two elements to look for when examining deductive arguments: valid logic and true premises. To say that a deductive argument is valid is to say that, due to the logical form, true premises will always lead to a true conclusion. The most basic argument form is the syllogism, and the most basic valid form of the syllogism is Modus Ponens.[3] The logical form of the following arguments is Modus Ponens; thus, they are logically valid:

Argument A—false gods and false prophets

A1. If a person speaks in the names of false gods, that person is a false prophet.
A2. Muhammad spoke in the names of false gods.
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A3. Therefore, Muhammad was a false prophet.

Argument B—false revelations and false prophets

B1. If a person delivers a revelation that doesn’t come from God, that person is a false prophet.
B2. Muhammad delivered a revelation that didn’t come from God.
——————————————————
B3. Therefore, Muhammad was a false prophet.

Since the logic of both arguments is valid, true premises will always lead to a true conclusion. Hence, if the premises of these arguments are true, Muhammad was a false prophet. Let us turn, then, to a careful discussion of our premises.

II. PREMISES A1 AND B1 DEFENDED

A1 and B1 seem intuitively obvious. That is, it seems clear that if a person speaks in the names of false gods or delivers revelations that don’t come from God, the person cannot be a true prophet. Nevertheless, by appealing to the Bible to bolster their belief in Muhammad, Muslims have inadvertently granted that A1 and B1 are true.

Deuteronomy 18 serves as the foundation of Islam’s "Argument from Biblical Prophecy," used by generations of Muslims to prove that Muhammad was a true prophet. Indeed, the popular Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam uses Deuteronomy 18 as its primary evidence that the Bible speaks of Muhammad. Author I. A. Ibrahim says,

The Biblical prophecies on the advent of the Prophet Muhammad are evidence of the truth of Islam for people who believe in the Bible.

In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account." (Deuteronomy 18: 18-19)[4]

The book goes on to argue that Muhammad fulfilled this prophecy in numerous ways. While such claims have been refuted ad nauseum,[5] I will simply note that Muslims have here granted that Deuteronomy 18:18-19 is inspired by God (since they regard it as a miraculous prophecy). Surely, then, we can’t ignore the next verse, where God says:

"But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die." (Deuteronomy 18:20)

Here we have two criteria for spotting a false prophet: (1) delivering a revelation which God has not "commanded him to speak," and (2) speaking "in the name of other gods." Since Muslims who appeal to so-called biblical prophecies of Muhammad have given this passage their stamp of approval, they cannot deny the truth of A1 and B1. To sum up, Muslims have appealed to a passage in Deuteronomy 18, and that passage entails premises A1 and B1. Thus, according to Muslim claims, the first premise of each of the Deuteronomy Deductions is true.

III. PREMISES A2 AND B2 DEFENDED

We have seen that, according to a passage regarded by many Muslims as divine revelation, a person who either delivers a message that does not come from God or speaks in the names of false gods must be a false prophet. But this means that Muhammad was a false prophet, since he did both when he delivered the infamous "Satanic Verses."

We learn about the Satanic Verses, not from Christian or Jewish sources, but from early Muslim writings. Accounts of the Satanic Verses are given in a number of early sources, including: (1) Ibn Ishaq, (2) Wakidi, (3) Ibn Sa’d, (4) al-Tabari, (5) Ibn Abi Hatim, (6) Ibn al-Mundhir, (7) Ibn Mardauyah, (8) Musa ibn 'Uqba, and (9) Abu Ma'shar.[6] According to the great Muslim scholar Ibn Hajar, three chains of transmission (isnad) in these accounts "satisfy the conditions requisite for an authentic report."[7] Moreover, Sahih al-Bukhari, Islam’s most trusted source on the life of Muhammad, gives indirect confirmation of the event (Number 4862, quoted below). Beyond this, certain verses of the Qur’an (17:73-5 and 22:52-3) were revealed in response to Muhammad’s embarrassing lapse into polytheism.

We therefore have compelling historical evidence that the story is authentic. (For a thorough discussion of the evidence for the Satanic Verses, see "Muhammad and the Satanic Verses.") In fact, the historical method virtually guarantees the legitimacy of the story. Historians examining the lives of leaders and religious figures employ what is known as the "Principle of Embarrassment," a principle which also carries much weight in legal investigations. Law professor Annette Gordon-Reed sums up the principle thus: "Declarations against interest are regarded as having a high degree of credibility because of the presumption that people do not make up lies in order to hurt themselves; they lie to help themselves."[8] Applying the Principle of Embarrassment to accounts of the Satanic Verses, we see immediately that Muslims would not have invented this story, since it calls Muhammad’s reliability into question. We also see that the story couldn’t have been invented by non-Muslims; for if non-Muslims had invented the story, Muslims would have exposed the story’s origin, instead of defending it in their earliest historical works.

The evidence for the general reliability of the Muslim accounts concerning the Satanic Verses is therefore too overwhelming to ignore. With this in mind, let us consider a condensed account of what happened, based on the History of al-Tabari.

According to al-Tabari,

When the Messenger of God saw how his tribe turned their backs on him and was grieved to see them shunning the message he had brought to them from God, he longed in his soul that something would come to him from God which would reconcile him with his tribe. With his love for his tribe and his eagerness for their welfare it would have delighted him if some of the difficulties which they made for him could have been smoothed out, and he debated within himself and fervently desired such an outcome. Then God revealed:

By the Star when it sets, your comrade does not err, nor is he deceived; nor does he speak out of (his own) desire . . .

and when he came to the words:

Have you thought upon al-Lat and al-‘Uzza and Manat, the third, the other?

Satan cast on his tongue, because of his inner debates and what he desired to bring to his people, the words:

These are the high-flying cranes; verily their intercession is accepted with approval. (Al-Tabari, p. 108)

The polytheists were delighted that Muhammad had at last approved of their gods. To return the kindness, they "prostrated themselves because of the reference to their gods which they had heard, so that there was no one in the mosque, believer or unbeliever, who did not prostrate himself" (p. 109).

Muhammad’s friendly relations with the polytheists were short-lived, however, for he soon learned that his verses praising pagan idols came not from God, but from Satan. Saddened to recognize his treachery against Allah, Muhammad lamented: "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken" (p. 111). Yet "Gabriel" comforted Muhammad, informing him that all prophets fall for Satan’s tricks from time to time. This staggering and unbelievable claim even found its way into the Qur’an:

"And We did not send before you any apostle or prophet, but when he desired, the Shaitan made a suggestion respecting his desire; but Allah annuls that which the Shaitan casts, then does Allah establish His communications, and Allah is Knowing, Wise." (Surah 22:52)[9]

According to the next verse, Allah allows his prophets to receive revelations from Satan in order to test hard-hearted people.

Whatever we think of the preposterous Qur’anic explanation of the Satanic Verses (and its defense of Muhammad), it is clear that the Prophet of Islam, on at least one occasion, delivered a message that did not come from God. It is also clear that Muhammad, on at least one occasion, spoke in the names of false gods.[10] Thus, we can establish from Muslim sources that A2 and B2 are almost certainly true.

IV. POSSIBLE REPLIES

Since we have good reasons to accept premises A1, A2, B1, and B2, we have good reasons to accept conclusions A3 and B3, both of which claim that Muhammad was a false prophet. Muslims, however, will not want to accept this conclusion. Let us briefly discuss their prospects for rejecting it.

Muslims could, of course, claim that Deuteronomy 18:20 is a false teaching, not actually revealed by God. But if they take this route, it would be absurd of them to turn around and declare that 18:18-19 is an inspired prophecy. While it is alarmingly common for Muslims to pick and choose which passages in the Bible are correct (i.e. everything that agrees with Islam is correct, but everything that disagrees with Islam was corrupted by evil Jews and Christians), no one is going to be convinced by the claim that one verse in Deuteronomy 18 proves the prophethood of Muhammad, while another verse in the same passage is corrupted because it proves that he was a false prophet.

Thus, Muslims who want to deny A1 and B1 must abandon their claim that Deuteronomy 18 predicts the coming of Muhammad. The problem with this approach is that the prophecy of a coming messenger like Moses is one of the last remaining verses that Muslims—in spite of the evidence—cling to in their hopes of vindicating Muhammad. But if the Bible contains no clear prophecies about Muhammad, then Muhammad was a false prophet, since he claimed (in the Qur’an no less!) that the Jewish and Christian ures contain prophecies of his coming. This means that Muslims are caught between the horns of a dilemma. If they cling to Deuteronomy 18, then Muhammad was a false prophet. If they abandon it, then they are on the verge of having no biblical prophecies of Muhammad, which would imply that Muhammad was a false prophet.

Muslims who give up their most prized prophecy still wouldn’t be out of the water, however. For even if they abandon Deuteronomy 18 and declare it to be utterly corrupted, this wouldn’t refute A1 and B1, since, as I have already noted, these premises are intuitively obvious. Muslims who want to deny A1 and B1 must therefore show that these premises are false by arguing that genuine prophets can indeed deliver false revelations and speak in the names of false gods. I would love to see Muslims attempt to defend such an untenable position!

It seems, then, that Muslims who want to continue believing in Muhammad must deny not A1 and B1, but A2 and B2. But this means that they must reject the overwhelming historical evidence for Muhammad’s temporary support of paganism. Muslims who take this approach must do seven things. First, they must provide some reasonable explanation as to the story’s origin (e.g. they must make a plausible case that the story was invented by pagans, Jews, or Christians). Second, they must explain why Muslims, who had every reason to reject such a story, passed it on as if it were true (instead of exposing it as a fabrication). Third, they must show that Ibn Ishaq, Wakidi, Ibn Sa’d, al-Tabari, Ibn Abi Hatim, Ibn al-Mundhir, Ibn Mardauyah, Musa ibn ‘Uqba, and Abu Ma’shar were sloppy historians (so amazingly sloppy that they included false stories about Muhammad that called his prophethood into question). Fourth, they must account for the various chains of authority to which the early Muslim biographers appealed in their efforts to demonstrate the story’s authenticity. Fifth, they must explain why al-Bukhari, Islam’s most trusted authority, confirms certain details of the story that only make sense if Muhammad really did deliver the Satanic Verses. According to Bukhari,

The Prophet performed a prostration when he finished reciting Surat an-Najm [Surah 53], and all the Muslims and Al-Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger Muhammad) and jinn and human beings prostrated along with him. (4862)[11]

Though Bukhari understandably omits the embarrassing reason for the prostration of the pagans, he inadvertently confirms the account given by Ibn Ishaq and the others, who faithfully reported that the pagans bowed down because Muhammad spoke favorably of their gods. Sixth, Muslims must account for Surah 22:52, which, again, declares that all God’s prophets received revelations from Satan—a verse so preposterous that it could only have been offered to the Muslim community as an absurd explanation for something like the Satanic Verses. Seventh, they must show non-Muslims why we should reject all the available evidence and believe that Muhammad was spiritually reliable, when, as all informed Muslims will admit, Muhammad was the victim of black magic (a spell cast by a Jewish magician) and, at one point, was convinced that he was demon-possessed. Put differently, if the Prophet of Islam could mistakenly believe that he was demon-possessed, and was susceptible to spiritual attacks (such as black magic), why shouldn’t we believe that he could fall prey to revelations from Satan? (For more on Muhammad’s spiritual difficulties, see "A Bewitched Prophet?")

While I have witnessed Muslim attempts to explain away the historical evidence for the Satanic Verses, I have never seen anything remotely resembling a convincing refutation of the evidence. For instance, in my debate on the prophethood of Muhammad at U.C. Davis, my opponent Ali Ataie tried to respond to al-Bukhari’s indirect confirmation of the Satanic Verses by appealing to the miraculous power of the Qur’an. According to Ataie, the reason the pagans bowed down in honor of Surah 53 (which, in its present form, ridicules polytheism) was that they were overwhelmed by its majesty. But surely such a response is based on fantasy rather than fact. Muslims have been reciting the Qur’an for more than a thousand years, and unbelievers are typically quite unimpressed by Muhammad’s poetry. Indeed, Muhammad won remarkably few converts when he appealed to the Qur’an as evidence of his divine commission. He only saw large numbers of converts when he turned to other (far more bloody) means of conversion. Thus, for Muslims like Ataie to claim that the pagans, with one accord, bowed down at Muhammad’s recitation of Surah 53, is bordering on delusional. Bukhari’s hadith makes far more sense when read in the light of historical works like Ibn Ishaq (which, incidentally, predates Sahih al-Bukhari by many decades). The only conceivable reason the pagans would bow down in honor of Surah 53 is that the Surah originally supported paganism, and this is exactly what our earliest historical records claim.

All things considered, the only reasonable conclusion to be drawn from the historical evidence is that Muhammad, in a moment of weakness, gave into temptation and actively promoted polytheism by delivering a revelation from Satan. But this means that we cannot rationally reject premises A2 and B2. Muslims, then, can have no good response to the Deuteronomy Deductions. We are therefore left with an unavoidable conclusion: Muhammad was a false prophet.

V. ASSESSMENT

To conclude, I would like to emphasize again that my entire argument (in two deductions) has been based on the writings and claims of Muslims. Early Muslim historians, in an astounding display of honesty and integrity, admitted that their prophet had delivered the Satanic Verses to his listeners. In acknowledging this, they provided all the evidence we need for premises A2 and B2. Modern Muslims, in an effort to defend Muhammad’s claim to biblical support for his ministry, have granted that a passage in Deuteronomy 18 was inspired by God. In doing so, they have given us all the evidence we need for premises A1 and B1. Since both of the Deuteronomy Deductions are logically valid, we have two proofs, based entirely on the claims of Muslims, that Muhammad was a false prophet.

Since the Deuteronomy Deductions are sound (i.e. logically valid with true premises), any honest seeker will have to admit that Muhammad was a false prophet. It should be an enlightening exercise, then, to present these arguments to Muslims. If a Muslim examines the arguments carefully, inspecting the premises and weighing the evidence, and then rejects the conclusion without refuting the argument, we can only assume that such a person is less interested in truth and more interested in the comfort provided by blindly accepting the faith he was raised in. Although my experience leads me to believe that most Muslims are of this type, my experience has also shown me that there are Muslims in the world who are actively dedicated to learning the truth about God. The first truth such Muslims must learn is that their prophet Muhammad was no prophet at all. The second is that their prophet Jesus is much more than a prophet. (But I’ll save that for another essay.)




 
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https://youtu.be/HBmIaGWbf4Y

 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBmIaGWbf4Y&feature=youtu.be

 
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servantofgod (peace be upon you),

So you want to be terrorist? Is that what you're trying to say?

 
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servantofgod,

Your experience is called born-again experience. This is what happens when people, after a period of struggle, find religion and along with it peace. Your intentions are good. You experienced peace with this religion (after a period of struggle) and wants to share it with others. You want to help other people like you've been helped with this religion. But, this is also the case with other religions. It does not even have be a religion.

My advice to you:

Don't go very deep hardcore. If you want to stay a muslim, stay a moderate modern muslim. Do not get any crazy ideas and try to join Al Qaeda or something.

By the way, how long is your beard now?

 
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Dear servant of god, I am impressed with your example when you said "how can cow be a god when steak are sold in the Texas Roadhouse." In that case, why don't Muslim don't eat pork when it is sold as Bacon and ribs at the same Texas Roadhouse??
 
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I have lot of respect for prophet Muhammad!
 
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This morning I talked to my family and one of them speak his/her mind _ wtf you talking aobut it ? It is okey to kill a girl and do wh  ever the people wanted to do but not okay to to talk about Mohamad. This is big shit on their head.

 
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So far as I know it's never mentioned in hinduism. Hinduism came with the indus valley civilization, way before than other religions. Thus, there were so many flaws which were eradicated with the progress of civilization. But, there are still places in India and Nepal where castism discriminates own society. Therefore, Christianity is becoming popular which believes in helping disadvantaged or poors. It always serve poor thru helping with education and other activities. The INGO like PeaceCorps is always in poverty stricken area to uplift the living standard. Today, the south indian state, Kerala, is the most literate state because of the active involvement of missionaries to eradicate social differences. 

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Servantofgod is a young kid (maybe between 20 to 30 years old). He's going through some issues. He's searching for truth/love. He finds that in Islam. Now he wants to share that to everybody because he knows it's been good to him.
 
Usually, people go back their own religions but a few choose something different. People choosing something different are a little different than the regular people to begin with.
 
The same story is happening somewhere else. Only in this case it's a culturally muslim kid finding love in Jesus. And a culturally Chritian kid finding love in Buddha.

Whatever makes you happy.
 

 
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 Religion is man made.  If everyone's religion is perfect from their own perspective, why do we have so many ?  And killing each other in the name of it ? None of these religions would have survived the test of time without financial( temples, Churches, Mosques expects you to pay everytime you enter them) help.  The more you give the louder they sing for your redemption. KNOW YOURSELF BETTER AND TRUST NO ONE.
 



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