Let us all unite against theanti-Hindu forces in Nepal. CAN WE DO IT?

Let us spread message against what is happening to Nepal.
WE WANT IT TO REMAIN A HINDU STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we unite?
This will be the real challenge.
Look at how Indian medicos/engineers are uniting against job reservation.

Well, OUR RELIGION,HINDUISM THE ODLEST RELIGION IS BEING REMOVED FROM NEPAL. AND NO ONE IS BOTHERED? SICKENING.

Do you know what troubles start if this happens.
PLEASE ALL WAKE_UP AND SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE CORRUPT & CROOK POLITICIANS IN NEPAL.

WE WANT NEPAL TO REMAIN HINDU!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kramapa brother , u are underestimating the gravity of situation.This world is not utopia.Peace.

Go on Karmapa---prove them wrong by giving nice clarification against the allegations. You carry your point among the sajhaites.
Just take the edge off their argument that it is not good to declare Nepal as a secular state. GO O N!! Buddy.

Satah,
Hush! Are you stupid to bring that small of an issue. Is your brain that small. Let me get down to your level and say : How about the dalits getting tired of being mistreat and convertng to Buddism? How about when a poor is helped by a missioner giving gim shelter, food and a hope and you still bitch about Christian coming and trying to convert. Where were you when the Christain is the ONLY one helping the poor?
So think big and post something meaningful.
Karmap, RIGHT ON. I'm with you.
ImI, can you expalin the gravity?

Hello my fellow Hindus,

We are human being, religion did not create us, we created religion, if we are human being we should be thoughtful, why do need Hindu nation, which we did not have prior
2019 BS, King Mahendra and his Chamche created Nepal as Hindu Nation in order to get sympathy from Indian Hindus, have you seen in Gorkha, all the Muslim brother and sisters Participated Dyaushikhel, they work together, live together, even our country was Hindu Nation, matter fact, recently when Gyanendra went to Dakshin Kali with Pancha Bali, I was shocked, if he was incarnation of Vishnu, he would have protected those animal from sacrificing by the Priest Bahaman, for stances, Kali Temple of India, only offered Naibet whereas we offer Bali in our Kali Temple, what is this is killing is Hindu. I assumed you have loose those previllege, so called higher caste, those of your
who have been using your Hinduism as political tools have gone to wind, no more Baje
now on Bahuni can get married to Sarkee, this all about seculars state.

Its funny to read Kalki Kapil that Hindu religion is removed from Nepal. The religion is neither removed nor banned. You can practise Hindu religion as much now as much you did before.

When there are Muslims, Buddhists, Jains and even Christinas existing in Nepal, why the country is to remain as " Hindu State"? It must be a secular state.

India where majority population are Hindus is officially a secular state.

Nepal should be a hindu state. There was no equal status given to all other religions too. So what was the need now to make it secular? We should raise a voice against it. How can they do whatever they like and then say " anyone who opposes that will be left behind"?

Please guys think about all this. It is going in favour of the present Indian and american govt and also Maoists. It is leading to a state of no return. A change that is not in the spirit of the people and the history of the nation may lead to drastic steps forcing mass migration. Think what happened in Russia.

First of all, Why the hell should we be amazed with the results? Leave the whole sitution the way it is. I mean most of who write in sajha has privilage to be from proper family and resides oversea. What can be the maximum result? More bloods, well let it be. If the people of Nepal wants that fine. Who the heck are we to talk and be judgemental here? Have u participated well in bringing new changes in Nepal. How of your relatives actually broke their bones and lost their life?
Well shut the crap up? There is nothing you and I can do. You are just like father who talks big about new and big Nepal without having proper prespective. Learn to either be neutral like me, wait for the proper time be oppurtunist and grap it. Well in other hand just dont talk big about Nepal. First Manage Your own life then think of Nation.I havenot actually seen bigger PHD's talk on Sajha for while. Is rest crap talk left for dogs like us to feed ourself in leftovers.I think, we should start to learn to adapt the oversea life or go back to nation be ready for smaller and smaller worst possiblites. You have no rights to talk like morons including me. WELL OTHER DAY MY DAD WAS SAYING" NEPAL IS GREAT COUNTRY, WE NEED TO PRESEVE OUR CULTURE WITH NEW VIEWS AND IDEAS". Great dad! now how many favors are u gonna get from KP Oli and Madav Nepal, your old mates. Well congrats dad! You first meeting is passed with Steak House to open grand argentine steak house in Nepal. Serving first time corn feed and natural grass feed (La Pampa) beefs. It's not big sin to eat beef, yes i use to eat beef.
TODAY I CAN SAY....RELEGION IS FOR PPL WHO ARE AFRAID OF HELL BUT SPRITIUAL IS FOR PPL WHO HAVE BEEN TO HELL.
I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO HAS BEEN TO HELL AND WANT TO GO BACK AGAIN TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT HAPPINESS AND JOY IN PROPER LIFE OF SIMPLICITY.

YETA HERYO UTA HERYO......GHAR MA CHORA CHORI, AMA RA BAU KO KE CHA HAALAT MATLAB CHAINA, THIS IS LIKE ALCOHOLIC TALK.

anyways, so how many leaders are going back to reform nation. How many are here to actually use real press freedom to talk wrong doing about present leader and moaist? How many are here honestly to hang themselves for Nation for future? How many belives even factories will closed, Nepali janta (majhdur) labour can run it without owner? How many are ready to go back and work as small potato? How many of you can take humilation?

WELL YES, I CAN ..................STILL SURVIVING IN HUMILATION AND NEED MORE HUMILATION COZ TODAY I KNOW TALKING BIG SHIT DONT MAKE SENSE.

ACTION SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS........................

HOPEFULLY, phd's and graduated of sajha are listening to this drug addict.

TODAY I CHALLANGE U TO COME AND FOLLOW MY PATH TAKING HUMILATION AND WORK IN NEPAL ............THEN I WILL RESPECT YOUR GRADUATION.....

FOR ME U GUYS ARE ONLY GRADUATED NOT EDUCATED...........YOUR GRADUATION DEGREE IS NOTHING BUT TOILET PAPER FOR ME......COME AND TALK EDUCATION FROM YOUR HEART NOT GRADUATION FROM YOUR INTELLECT.

PROUD TO BE RECOVERING ADDICT..............

UHI RECOVERING ADDICT
MONEYMINDED

Why worry about "Hindu Nation" or Hindusim?


When you need Democracy and Human Rights.......

You know that you must respect EQUAL OPPERTUNITIES and RIGHTS and SHARE LOSS AND PROFIT with other people.

Democracy means that you step down.... you give away..... you share...... you respect other..... you be nice to other..... you become civilize and fit into community for common or majority or national interest.

It was really bad politically and democratically while calling Nepal as a Hindu nation. It was totally un-Democratic.

So we must educate or Learn to live like Civilize people and Democratic people.

Talking about Peace, Democracy, Human Rights and Politics is nothing than waste of time and street gosship.

We have to act and impliment Democracy and Human Rights within each of us and everyday of our lives.

Karmapa has given an open hearted opinion based on logic and reality. The concept of a Hindu Nation never benefited the mass but only the select few in the upper crust of the society. When the whole nation decided on a democratic form of government, then it should be full democracy and nothing less. It is not at all a democracy when there is a preference given to a certain religion over other. This declaration will now invigorate the feeling of belonging in millions of Buddhist, Christians and Muslims Nepalese.
Enough blood has been shed, and families devastated. We the people of Nepal, have now resolved that no more shall we be deceived, and taken for granted. This is a reawakening for our nation, and we shall all contribute to the glory of the Motherland.

Satash - When an opportunistic Nepali lands with a forged Nepali passport (wherein he calls himself Tashi Namgyal - although his name is Pema Lama and is from Rasuwa) in Switzerland to seek an asylum, why does he call himself a Tibetan refugee. Why? It is easier to fool the Swiss Immigration Officials. Two of my own related (Nepali) brothers (they don't know shit about Tibet or Tibetan culture) have passed themselves off as Tibetan refugees and are now happily working/living in Switzerland. I don't begrudge them their luck! If a Nepali can pass himself off as a Tibetan, what is wrong with Tibetans (even though they hold Nepali passports) calling themselves Tibetans! This has nothing to do with loyalty to Nepal - this is purely economic opportunism. Tibetans - well, the Swiss Govt likes to give asylum to bona fide Tibetan refugees for sure - so why shouldn't they call themselves "Tibetans", no matter the passports they hold. You get my drift?

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Imi, I don't know what you mean by the gravity of the situation. I have not yet seen rallies by Hindu fundamentalists on the streets of Kathmandu demanding that Nepal be a redeclared a Hindu state. So what do a few skirmishes happening in India matter? These India-based Hindu fundamentalists are a minority even in India. They have to engineer killings of Muslims on the flimsiest pretexts to even come to power - so we already know who they are: terrorists in brilliant disguise. They want Nepal to be a "Hindu country" so that they can use this as a leverage to Indianise/influence/milk Nepal for what she's worth. Don't you get it: they see Nepal as a Kam-dhenu (or wish-fulfilling) cash cow. You think Hinduism will flourish under their control! Many guys who are arguing for "Hindu Nepal" are wittingly or unwittingly playing into their hands!!!

Certainly there will be a short term problem, but in the long term, these guys will expose themselves for who they are (if they already haven't): bigots & supremacists!

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Did you know that it is the Sankaracharyas from South India who actually control the Pashupati Nath Temple? How come the Nepali Hindu priests are having to play second fiddles to these priests? When Mr. Pokhrel (a homegrown reform-minded Nepali Hindu) actually does something good, he is taken out! Did he pose threats to these Indian Hindu priests who are given protection by the palace in cahoots with the India-based fundamentalist organisations. Why do you think these India-based hindu fundamentalist groups were/are so eager to make "Gyanendra" the king of all Hindus? Why would paras say "I'm married to India!" to the Indian Ambassador at a reception in Kyrgyzstan? This is something worth pondering.

Even the Hindu guru based in Muktinath (whom my mom looks upto) was not happy with these Hindu fundamentalists - he even had this to say about King's autocratic rule during the protest days: "Well certainly, Muktinath will not protect our King. Only Pashupati Nath may protect him!" Can you decode this statement for me? Probably he meant, certainly Nepali Hindus are not gonna protect this King - may be the Sankarcharyas & India-based Hindus who have controlled Pashupati Nath since time immemorial may!

Certainly, the Nepali Hindu priests have resented the fact that Gyanendra had been highjacked by the India-based Hindu orgs and fundamentalists. Is it any wonder that Nepal chapters of VHP and Shiva Sena have been funded by the Nepali state? Did you see how much money the palace-appointed government had doled out to Bharat Keshari Singh's fundamentalist Hindu group?? Check out the statement of expenses released by Finance Minister Ram Sharan Mahat!! Do you think these monies doled out to the fundamentalists were put to a good use? If they were, would Bagmati hit you with a foulest smell every time you cross the Kupondole-Thapathali bridge? Bagmati is not a river, it is a sewer!!! Bagamti has become a metaphor for what went wrong for Hinduism and could still go wrong under "Hindu Nepal".

Paradoxically under Secular Nepal, Lumbini, birthplace of Nepal, has undergone amazing transformation and gotten global recognition, where as the hilltop Hindu shrines in and around Kathmandu valley rim have languished. Monasteries have outshined them! See, being a "Hindu Nepal" doesn't augur well for Hinduism itself - because then Hinduism gets highjacked by the Hindu fundamentalists (palace, VHP, Shiva Sena, BJP) that always threaten to marginalize reform minded Hindu souls like Mr. Pokhrel. It gets mired in politics and loses its cultural import. It only benefits India-based Hindu fundamentalist groups and their stooges in Nepal. I already explained this above.

You think these fundamentalists guys care about Hinduism - they only care about inciting sectarian / religious violence to come to power. They have engineered many a massacre of Muslims in India to come to power - from Gujarat to Ayodhya. Under Secular Nepal, Hinduism has a chance to cleanse itself and reform itself - so that it becomes palatable to the masses. Even the Dalits are voting with their feet and saying goodbye to Hinduism. "Only Hindus may enter!" sign at Pashupati Nath has pissed off many a tourist. These are not making Hinduism popular with anyone! The fundamentalist hindus are not fooling anyone either.

Hinduism could regain its lost ground ... but sorry guys, under "Hindu Nepal" this is not possible.

Which is why "Secular Nepal" is best for all concerned, including the level headed Hindus!


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Errata:

Meant to say that, paradoxically under "Hindu Nepal", Lumbini, birthplace of Buddha, has undergone amazing translaformation ....

I dont think that advocating for Nepal to be a Hindu state is being "a fundamentalist" nor asking for a cow not be killed!

It is easy to point to our social issues and blame it on religion. It is easy to say that we are poor because of our religion, I have heard that zillions of times. It is hard to acknowledge that we are one of the poorest nations with richest culture; it is even harder to understand and appreciate the culture of the poorest nation that we are part of!

If you are Hindu extrimist and want it to remain Hindu State again, I think you all are either foolish or you don't understand the value of secularism.

SHIW,
"It is easy to point to our social issues and blame it on religion". Well then you missed the point. Tell me 1 society with no religion, anywhere in the world.
"It is easy to say that we are poor because of our religion". We're not blaming any religion, nobody is better than the other. It's when one rules under its name.
"It is hard to acknowledge that we are one of the poorest nations with richest culture" Come on now, everbody has their culture from Asia to Africa in many different ways. But what are our culture worth in the real world to even make common sense? I don't think we have many. It's all based on myth & legends. That might be OK with us, but for the rest of the world and people with common sense, it's just a feel good story, good guy Vs bad guy with not a single proof of existence of god, Mahadev, Shiva(like you), Bramha, Garud, Ganesh, Krishna, Kali etc etc.

VOHOTEE , THATS WHAT WE ARE. THATS OUR CULTURE . WE DON'T HAVE CULTURE TO IMPRESS REST OF THE WORLD.AND BTW WHAT OTHER CULTURES HAVE ?IF U HAVE SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE BASED ON WORLD CULTURE CAN U PLEASE GIVES US SOME INSIGHTS OUT HERE .I HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OTHER CULURES TOO MAY BE NOT MUCH AS YOU.ALL HINDU MYTHS AND LEGENDS ARE CRAP RIGHT??. I GUESS THERE ARE OTHER BETTER CULTURE.
AS FOR ME I INTERPRET MY CULTURAL MYTHS .IN DIFFERENT WAY:EX" WE SHOULD NOT EAT COW"- U KNOW WHY I DON'T THINK IT IS JUST BEEN THERE .IT HAS MEANING TO IT WHEN IT CAME TO EXISTENCE.
1] SINCE WE COME FROM AGRICULTURE DEPENEDENT CULTURE- KILLING COW WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IT GIVES MILK AND FEMALE SPECIES GIVES BIRTH INORDER TO INCREASE HERD
2] OUR FOREFATHER AND VEDAS ARE FAR ADVANCE THEN. MAY BE MAD COW DIEASES HAD SOME INDICATION BACK THEN
3]U DRINK MILK FROM COW WOULD U KILL U R MOTHER AS U DRINK MILK FROM HER?

SO INTERPRETATION AND MODERNIZING IS DIFFERENT THING AND SAYING FLAT OUR CULTURE HAD NO SIGNIFICANCE IS PLAIN INGORANCE.I CAN GIVE U MORE EXAMPLE IF U WANT..EVEN GOD AND GODESS LEGENDS CAN BE INTERPRETED IN DIFFERENT WAY .IT IS JUST NOT FEEL GOOD STORIES.

i'm for secular state. but i was just wondering about the timing. was it apporpriate to declare secular state now? i was hoping that it will be in the ballot during sambidhan sabha. afterall if we all believe in democracy let the mass decide what they want.

Not only that hyaa, Girija said anyone who opposes that will face dire consequences. Madhav bastard said anyone who opposes will be left behind. I hate these pigs running our country.

someone was telling me that now SPA is above constitution. hehe scary isn't it?

I dont think labeling "fundamentalist" to my feelings and the feeling of others are going to solve the introduced problem. It will not solve the problem by keeping your head inside the sand, may be it will for you?
Nepal had the laws against discrimination and against chucha-chut, secularism is not against that, secularism in Nepal is the freedom to kill cows, nothing more. I am against it and will be.
I have nothing to say about "your" own culture if you demean it, you do not understand it or fail to understand it.
Of course each and every culture has its own history and culture. There are many who understand and treasure our own culture and there are many who dont.
The timing on declaring the secular state is fishy, very fishy. I agree now the SPAs are above the constitution, Prachanda(s) are above the constitution as well.

Why can't we go in a large group like in 10s of thousands and kill SPAM ?