aba k bhannne yesta buda lai
bhir bata khasna khojni gorulai ram-ram bhan na sakincha kad thapna sakinnna
ki kaso hau
ational reconciliation policy still relevant: KP Bhattarai
Kantipur Report
KATHMANDU, Sept 9 - Nepali Congress (NC) founding leader and former Prime Minister Krishna Prasad Bhattarai Sunday claimed that the National Reconciliation Policy of BP Koirala is still relevant.
In a press statement today, Bhattarai opined that the increasing distance between the king and political parties would only weaken nationality, independence and democratic practices.
Stating that the national recondition policy would be still relevant in coming days, the octogenarian leader has also asked the NC not to erase its own history.
Bhattarai’s comments have come after the party’s central working committee adopted a proposal for a federal democratic republic last week.
Stating that the institution of monarchy has unifying role for religious, cultural, ethnic and political groups, Bhattarai also made a point that the prevailing transitional period in the country would come to an end only through unity and reconciliation.
He added that a feeling of vengeance would only further divide the nation.
Nepal’s first elected prime minister and NC founding member, BP Koirala had propounded the policy of national reconciliation in 1976 when he returned from self-imposed exile in India.
Bhattarai, who is placed second in the party hierarchy, has been living a politically secluded life in his Bhainsepati residence. He has not attended the interim parliament since April uprising last year insisting that the two factions of NC must unite before that.
IF -
Your sincerity and modesty puts me to shame at times. If only the politicians - Kings and commoners alike - would show half the sensibility and generosity you displayed, perhaps we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
You have a good one too. I shall continue to look forward to hearing your ideas - any conversation with you is always a great pleasure.
Best wishes.
Good nite.
sajha ko yo thread ma dherai pani bagi sakechhha
dherai sabda haru koriye sakechan
lets see what pro-panchayati cadres have to tell for the things listed below
some milestones(obviously sarcastically)achieved during 30 yrs nirdaliye panchayati system
1.surunga hatya kanda
2.ban fanadi by surya bahadur thapa during 2036 referendum
3.murti taskari
4.bogus referendum 2036 n its result
5.mandaletantra(ya badartantra)
Buda Kaam Chaina Jatha.....
.surunga hatya kanda- Bikash kc’ first say that degenerates panchayat in favor of prachande propped democracy.
k bhannaa khojeko surunga matra hatya...so todays killings are not hatya but swarga pathaune kaam???? Ooo that means all those 15000+ went to see Indra’ gala with Menakas...rashwari khadai herchan hola..haina??? prajantra ma marekole hola tyasto....
above and beyond, i've couple of things to learn from Bikash KC...very specific questions in fact. what the heck is that pro panchayati? how do you want to qualify yourself as democrat on and off this board?
ok master kc don’t worry too much....come with logic next time...i've couple of snickers stored in a refrigerated vault.. that too especially for you....sounds safe...right???
CH, I read your comments. What fustrated people simply expressed was that era was atleast peaceful. You went to explain "why" it was peaceful. It's totally irrevalent to people who have no political, philosophical inclination whatsoever but wanna go with daily life as usual. Does feeling good in the past needs explaination? Peace is measured by its success, do you not agree? You further challenged to rise from street to restore it but you know clearly that is not possible without autocratic force? Was it chosen from people before? You beat the crap out of Bill O'Railey, spin doctor.
By the way KP is wiser than anybody in congress. No matter how congress goes in CA, they have to support monarchy for their existence and don't want red nation; I bet with anyone. If congress posses Londup mentality then I lost.KP knows no matter what path chosen, meeting point is the same. He said so because later he can say," I told you so", clever isn't it? Sad part is that Paras will be the king.
”Lets see what pro-panchayati cadres have to tell for the things listed below
some milestones(obviously sarcastically)achieved during 30 yrs nirdaliye panchayati system
1.surunga hatya kanda
2.ban fanadi by surya bahadur thapa during 2036 referendum
3.murti taskari
4.bogus referendum 2036 n its result
5.mandaletantra(ya badartantra)”
Although the list looks bogus to me given the penchant the anti-monarchists have for blaming the king for everything under the sun, even if they are true, they look pretty tame compared to mother of horrors committed by SPA + M
The list could go on forever but I will not bore you; so here are a few samples:
1. 15000 deaths
2. 1000s displaced internally and rendered homeless
3. culture of violence and impunity
4. anarchy/no rule of law
5. millions of Nepalis unable to find an employment at home have left the country to eke out a living
6. Frequent Nepal bandas /strikes /julus/ chakkajams ( Some districts remained closed for 49 days staright! Must be a world record.)
7. Endemic corrouption
8. height of Cronyism and nepotism and favouritism
9. No petrol/ No water ( people have to queue for 8 hours to get their share of only 2 liters of petrol, that too if they are lucky
10. Melamchi
11. Tanakpur
12. Mahakali
13. Dhamija
14. Lauda
15. Chase Air
16. South China Airlines
17. Royal Nepal (the airlines had four boeings and 12 small aircrafts in the 80s, now it has none!)
18. Sajha Yatayat ( 400 buses back then, now none!)
19. Educational institutions have been politicized
20. Many factories received under grants that were operational in 80s have been closed long since to to politicization.
21. Unionism everywhere
22. Goit
23. Jwala
24. Tiger
25. Cobra
26. Terai Army
27. Liberation Army
28. Limbuwan
29. Khambuwan
30. Nepal is now an Indian state, the capital of Nepal is New Delhi
Phew! Let me catch my breath now.
Let's think of 3 different points in time.
A = Past ie panchayat rule
B = Present ie Maoist pseudo democratic rule
C = Future
Let's consider the following variables
X = Common Nepali living in the village a classic village commoner
Y = Common Nepali living in cities such as pokhara, ktm ie a classic city commoner
Now if you consider how X and Y have been affected in timeframes A and B. And also consider the possible scenario in the Future C.
If you compare the living conditions of X and Y during timeframe A and B, there has not been much positive change. The conditions have worsened to be precise.
During timeframe A, things remained constant with few atrocities that you heard of once in a while. But peace prevailed and the quality of life was consistent. If you determine a scale for peace and quality of life, on average the scale was somewhere in the 80%s and consistent. If you look at the wealth line it was probably on the 10%s.
Fast forward to current times of the Maoists also known as the SPAM, they were able to quickly downgrade the peace and quality of life on the average of commoners X and Y from the high 80 percentile to low 10's with the wealth index consistent.
So obviously the common person has lost 70% peace of mind and quality of life with their wealth level constant low within the past few years of SPAM rule. All this while the common citizen is being told that this is necessary to boost the peace and quality of life back to the 80% and the wealth index to a higher number.
If you look at the trend, these current politicians are responsible for bringing the peace and quality of life index from 80 to 10 within 10 years. What are the chances of them bringing any positive index up? IMHO they have made such irreparable damage to the social, political system that it is pretty impossible to make any progress in the peace, quality of life and wealth index of the country.
Lot of naively optimistic people want to believe that this is all for the better but there have not even been an iota of hope when it comes to the development of the country or it's democratic stance. Thousands of innocents have lost their lives while the politicians promise a better fairer democratic country only to disappoint with lies, atrocities and unfair prevalent practices encouraged by the rule of the gun. If we the educated people buy in to their rhetorics of impractical developments in the future, then the future of our country is doomed.
Captain...no wonder why you are babbling all over here..getting paid to speak your mind...must be a good job...well..we don't get paid out here..I just say how I feel. You tell other people to go back to nepal, are you stuck in nepal or in some other country? If you are in other country, why don't you go back and do yourself what you've been babbling out here. Or if you are there in nepal..what have you done so far? So, stop telling other people what to do and what not. As we all know, we are just here to express our point of view. Once again, no one said panchayat is good and all we are saying is atleast there was peace in the country. So, if you think you are all that what you say out here, do something about it.
Nepaliheart -
In case you missed the sarcasm, so do I (say what I feel).
As for Panchayati nostalgia, not my cup of tea. I said what I felt about people's perceptions of peace and Kishunji's statement and stand by it and haven't seen anything new and worthwhile to comment on or make me change my mind.
To the rest,
As for "Dear Panchayat, Sweet remembrance" , if anyone want's to indulge in it, let them, but I see little more than entertainment value in it for me at this time, with the notable exception of some of the points Isolated Freak mentioned.
Well..sorry if I missed the sign about your sarcasm...All I was trying to say is, so many people got killed and most of them are innocent and used to be peaceful country. If you enjoy that...then..that must be your cup of tea...but yeah..hope you are enjoying it.
CH, to observe some points in history as positive and negative is not really being nostalgic. If that was the case then we should burn all the history books
I don't think anything is wrong with comparing things with the past when the whole current republican thing is hell bent of proving that 'the past sucked that is why we need a new system.'
धेरै बिद्वान मित्रहरुको धेरै तर्क सुनियो। सबैका तर्क बितर्क आ-आफ्ना ठाममा जायज होला।
कुनै पनि ब्यबस्था पूर्णरुपमा सफल र सक्षम हुंदैन र संसार भरि परिवर्तन हुंदै आएका छन्। पन्चायत र लोकतन्त्रको तुलना कदापी हुन सक्दैन।
एक जना मित्रले पन्चायत पछिका बिक्रितिहरुलाई बूँदागत पेश गर्नु भएको छ। मित्र, ती सबै गुट उपगुट अनि जमातहरु पन्चायतकै शोषणको परिणति किन न मान्ने?
जात धर्म अनि भाषाको नाममा सदियौं देखि दबाइएका स्वरहरु गगनचुम्बी नारा भएर गुन्जेको पनि हुन सक्छ।
अनि काण्ड प्रकाण्ड हरुको सूचीमा पन्चायतमा किन थोरै? प्रश्न उठ्ला। पन्चायतकालमा सूचना तथा संचार स्वतन्त्र थियो?
कतिवटा अखबार निस्किन्थें? तिनको सेन्सर हुन्थ्यो कि हुदैनथ्यो?
बुझ्नु जरुरी छ।
कुनै पनि भ्रष्ट्राचार वा काण्ड त त्यति बेला मात्र बाहिर आउथ्यो जुन बेला कुनै पनि संयन्त्रले त्यसलाई लुकाउन दबाउन सकिदैनथ्यो।
कति भए कति कसलाई के थाहा?
४७ साल पछि पो जनताले थाहा पाए के कति काण्ड हुंदा रैछन्। सबैको खबर टिप्न पाए।
त्यसैले पन्चायत न भोगी, पन्चायतको बारेमा बोल्नु कच्चा बैद्यको मात्रा मात्र ठहरिन्छ।
घरमा मुसा बढ्यो भने मुसा मार्ने उपाय गर्नुको साटो घर जलाउनु कहाँ सम्म मनासिब हुन्छ।
किषुण जीको बारे मा धेरैले धेरै लेखे, धेरैले गाली गरे। तर ब्यक्तिगत रुपमा भन्नु पर्दा किशुनजीको उक्त भनाई मलाई नि मन परेन। तर पनि मैले चिनेको किशुनजी लाई बिश्वास गर्ने हो भने उक्त भनाईमा पनि गहिरो अर्थ लुकेको हुनै पर्छ।
गणतन्त्रमय भएको नेपालमा राजाको बारेमा बोल्दा पपुलर न होला नै। उनको आफ्नो बिचार हो, भन्यो, अरुलाई खासै टाउको दुखाउनु पर्दैनथ्यो। बरु किन भनेका होलान्, भनेर सोच्नु भन्दा बढी देश बिदेशमा बुज्रुकहरुले गाली बर्षाइ हाले।
मेरो बिचारमा २ वटा कारण र रहस्य हुन सक्छन्।
१- जसरी भए पनि मंसिर् मा चुनाव हुनु पर्छ भनेर सबै भन्दा चर्को स्वरमा दुष्ट छिमेकी भारत कराउनु र दूतहरु पठाउनु।
कहिं राजा बिनाको देश लाई भारतको प्रदेश बनाउने सोच रिसोच त छैन? सोचनिय कुरा छ।
२- माओबादी जंगलीहरु संसदबाटै गणतन्त्र किन मागिराख्या छन्। चुनाव किन चाहदैन। स्थिरता र शान्तिको लागि त पक्कै होइन होला।
दुबै छिमेकी को वक्र द्रिष्टि माओबादी मार्फत लाद्न
प्रकट भए जस्तो लाग्छ।
यसैले गम्भिर भएर सोच्ने बेलामा अशक्त किशुनजी र लोकतन्त्र दुबैलाई गाली गरेर समय खेर न फालौं । देश रहे पो हाम्रो पहिचान रहन्छ। पालेस्टाइनीको जिन्दगी हामी कहाँ बाच्न सक्छौं? मित्रहरु सोचम्, देश बडा अप्ठ्यारो मोडमा छ। जोड गरम, घटाउ न गरम। तारेमाम्।
CAPTAIN
you didn't know , our whole purpose of being here is sajah is to entertain you .
haha..lessons from past should be taken seriously and comparision is Human nature.I being a selfish humanbeing liked panchayat compared to now cause at least i could go to airport without anybandh.Very simple.But as system may be it had lot of flaws.
Wouldn't you as person, loved to atleast work and run business peacefully in KTM?NO compare on that level.Lets not go too deep.
Whatever you say. We must get rid ofthese maoist blood sucker and everything will be allright.
Was this article one of the reason for Krishna prasad royal rhetoric?
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2007/others/guestcolumn/sep/guest_columns_05.php
Chhaata baje has teleported back during his lengthy sleep to 2046 BS and waked up suddenly.
Kishunji urges all to rise above party interests 
The only living founding member of the Nepali Congress, Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, has said national sovereignty is at stake and urged all, including the Maoists, to rise above the party interests to work for safeguarding the national integrity.
During a meeting with the reporters at his residence at Bhaisepati Monday afternoon, Bhattarai said the leaders and the parties must come together at this critical situation.
He said it is time for handing over the leadership to the younger generation and requested all to work to this direction adding that a new leadership was necessary in newer circumstances.
He also vowed to advocate for handing over the nation's responsibilities to young leaders who understands the needs and feeling of this generation.
Bhattarai said he will attend the first sitting of the special session of the interim parliament this Thursday.
He stressed on the relevance of monarchy for national integrity and sovereignty but clearly in a ceremonial roles making commitments to protect the people's power and democracy.
Earlier, soon after the Nepali Congress Mahasamiti decided to go for a democratic republic, Bhattarai termed it as a diversion from the principles of BP Koirala and Ganesh Man Singh and severed all ties with the NC.
Bhattarai also rejected the possibility of a military coup by the king or any other groups at this period.
Bhattarai had long remained silent but has come to limelight in national politics after NC mulled for federal democratic republic. nepalnews.com ia/rh Oct 08 07
Guys here's KP Bhattarai's letter made public:
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