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ramas
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Poverty, corruption, materialism, callousness, poor sanitation, poor infrastructure, or in general poor living conditions are the symptioms of having low level of consciousness in the population of a region or country. The real issue is the low level of consciousness. This certainly doesn't mean that everyone is low in consciousness level, however when majority of the population has low level of consciousness then it affects everyone.
Consciousness level is a spiritual matter. It's rather a sad reality that even though Nepal is in the region where two of the major world religions, Hinduism and Buddhism, originated, majority of the people there are after idolatory, rather than internlizing the spiritual wisdom found in the great texts.
Nepalese could overcome the challenges and make the living condition better by first working toward rising the level of consciousness. If we merely try to rebuild the buildings, roads, etc then it would be superficial or cosmetic in nature. This doesn't mean completely neglect the rebuilding effort, but rather to emphasize the graveness of the importance of having higher level of consciousness.
The lasting positive change happen when love is the cornerstone of any society, when people care about others. We have seen people come together in love due to the earthquake tragedy. Nepali people should keep this flame burning by continuing to walk in love.
We blame the leaders of Nepal for being corrupt, callous, yet the leaders reflect majority of the people.

* The above writing is random thoughts. I'm not a professional spiritual teacher or a guru.
BadhiJanne
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So USA and other developed countries are good because they have higher level of consciousness? वाहियात
ramas
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yeah, in aggregate that seems right BadhiJanne bro/sis.
A country is just area covered in land so to speak; it's the level of consciousness of the population that makes the difference in the overall quality of life.
haribansha
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Define consciousness for me. I am trying to wrap my head around the word as it is used in your paragraph, and I can't fathom how consioucness would change the aftermath of the disaster. If anything, I think we need a change in attitudes. The engrained apathy ubiquitous in the youth has disappeared for a little bit, but we need to keep the momentum going. Consciousness and attitudes are two very disparate concepts.
ramas
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Again take this with a grain of salt.

Level of consciousness is directly related to the attitude in a person or even in the population of a given society.

To define consciousness would be to define God, so to speak. If you don't like the word "God" you can use words like Being, Infinite, etc. Each of us has the Spirit of God within us, yet it is like a dormant flower not yet bloomed, though we might get the glimpse of that Essence from time to time. When we are borned we are like a blank sheet, yet we have our karma which dictates our life. It is imcombent upon us individually to raise the level of consciousness. Lower level of consciousness would be selfishness, callousness, lack of love, pride, fear, shame, etc. Which higher level of consciousness would be love, peace, honesty, etc.


ramas
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I found this video which try to explain the level of consciousness.

https://youtu.be/3I70hVAEs-o
loperthapa
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Ramas our people are in deep sleep. they will not understand you. They did not understand, Krishna, Buddha Ram and started worshiping them instead. It's easy in Nepali society, take as much bribe as you can then do a gaiee daan to clean your karma. like Ekhart toll talks about sign posts, we have started collecting sign posts and worshiping them instead of going towards where the sign posts point,that is inner piece the being withing us. I can only suggest every interested being to read the book power of now by ekhart tolle. The truth shall set you free, you will not be unhappy again once you sync with the peace within you.
ujl
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There are total 7 states of Consciousness and they are:

1) Waking State
2) Dream State
3) Deep Sleep State
4) Transcendental Consciousness
5) Cosmic Consciousness
6) God Consciousness
7) Unity Consciousness
GeetMaiJawaafDiu?
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So this is a thread on the philosophy of 'Consciousness'? Aah haa ! I might have to move to the next thread then. But before I leave, I have a thing or two to say about the interesting political history of Nepal which has shaped our DNA makeup all along.
Before the janajaati rulers lost their little kingdoms, the quake-carved hills of Nepal must have been the safe-haven for the losing warrior kings from the Indian territories. When the hope of winning back their ancestral royalties through bravery and strategy died in vain, they schemed thoroughly to cheat the janajaati kings of their kingships. From then on, the trend of acquiring wealth, and power in Nepal has been through scare-tactics, deception, and bloodshed. The historical parallels of losing or conquering empires is no different from Nepal's contemporaries. But unlike other societies, the greatest tragedy in our own history is that our selfish, ignorant, and caste-based society could not produce one single leader who could lead us with enough foresightedness on any level of scope. I realize that it is a tall order given our geography and size but if Singapore could produce a son or daughter like Lee Kuan Yew, it is a testimony, it is possible at any given point in history. Though Junga Bahadur Rana is viewed as a hero in our history by some, the countdown of his dynasty's reign started at his aligning with the British and climaxed with the birth of the 'Midnight's Children'. Unlike JBR, one ought to take the harder and sustainable path instead of taking the easy way out if you want a lasting result. Guess what? More than a visionary leader who will die before turning 100, we urgently need a visionary and sustainable system that will stay in place forever once planted. Lucky Luciano did not attend Harvard but the man was instrumental in creating a system where there would be honor even among thieves. But heck we are talking about creating a new system in a legit sphere, i.e., a political arena unlike in a criminal syndicate, 'doesn't have to be so hard.
Girija died a zillionaire so are Bamdev Gautam (70-plus), KP Oli (60-plus), and other poly-ticking-timebomb goons going to, likewise. But will their children and grandchildren Not fight tooth and nail among themselves for all those ill-gotten riches just like for the bloodshed-inducing 'Rajah's Diamond'? So what's the point, after all?
At this time, I really want to salute our very own heroic people and guests in Nepal who are doing all they can in order to help in the relief and rehabilitation efforts. But the shameful thing is that the world's eyes are upon us on how we are going to distribute all those relief materials, lying at TIA, to the quake victims without infrastructure, logistical leadership or know-how but more importantly without the government inclination.



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GeetMaiJawaafDiu?
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Khaobaadi
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At the end of World War 2 Japan and Germany were in much dire circumstances than Nepal has ever been. Both Japan and Germany not only bankrupted themselves financially fighting the war, millions of their able men were sacrificed overseas that yielded little for their countries.

At home, their countries were bombed literally to dust and debris including being bombed with two atom bombs in Japan's case. On top of all the loss of life and property their homelands were occupied by victorious armies at the end of World War 2.


Yokohama, Japan where shantytown sprang up after B-29 bombers destroyed the original buildings.

Decades following the WW2 Germany and Japan emerged as economic powerhouses of the world.

Political democracy is a minimum requirement for any society to prosper however political democracy alone is not sufficient. It's social democracy that determines if political democracy remains functional (or dysfunctional). B.R. Ambedkar, the chief architect of the Constitution of India in the post-British India studied and has written extensively about what social democracy does to make political democracy work (or not to work).




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