vishontar, i always gave benifit of the doubt to islam and christianity. but after completing reading the bible and the quran,(bible book quran from online sources) i have come to conclusion that if thois is what religion is supposed to be i would rather be atheist. here is what i think , if we were able to prove that god, allah, shiva whatever doesnot exist what will be different, nothing! we will go about our daily business as usual. i donot think people will change much. in fact this world would be much better off if we destroy all forms of institutionalized and organized religions. we are humans because of our knowledge. knowledge is science (is there anything that is not a product of science?) if there is god , god wants us to know more and use our brains not follow books written by some psychos. ~Birbhadra