Veda = Vedayititi Vedang = whatever is experienced is called Veda = experiential knowledge. Vedas were known as Mantra before, they were named Veda later. In Shanskrit Vedana = experience = tangible feeling. There were three types of Vedana, Sukha Vedana = pleasant feeling, Dukkha Vedana = unpleasant feeling, and Adukhamasukham Vedana = neutral feeling. But now days the word Vedana refers unpleasant experience only. Vedas contains experience of different types of peoples and Yogis. You can filter biggest part of Vedas through simple intellectual analysis. For example you can not accept the brutality to Dasas. You can not accept caste system (don't define them yourselves, it was not labor division at all). You can not accept cow, horse like animal killing ceremony. You can not accept greedy mantras that asked from demigods for wealth, food, rain etc. You can not accept alcohol drinking ceremonies. Then you may encounter something advance which your intellect neither accept not reject, in such case you need to have some understanding of meditation so that you can analyze it. This is how one becomes spiritual. From my experience I can say, spirituality is an exact science without approximation. It is the greatest truth of mind and matter, it is not something brainwashing magic. People have very bad habit of talking about things without any knowledge. They define and decide things according to their thoughts. As we know different people have different thought and a same people also don't have similar thoughts all the time. Thoughts are thoughts, imagination is imagination, speculation is speculation but truth is truth which must be experienced and needs a lot of effort. If you don't know Tipithaka you will have hard time to analyze Vedas. Tipithakas contains quite a good amount of Vedic text. Time of Buddha was the end of Vedic era, so we can see how people were using Vedas, how were they practicing Vedas. One of my friends who is graduate student of Comparative Religious Studies at UC Berkeley said, Buddhism and Vedic Hindusm are very close but Pauranic Hindusm is completely unrelated to Vedic Hindusm ( I am not going to talk about Pauranic Hindusm here, it's a long story, I don't want to start another chapter of confusion. I know from the postings most of you don't know the difference between Vedic and Pauranic Hindusm. You should be wondering that I am talking about Hinduism but don't talk about Shiva, Vishnu, Ram, Krishna, Brahma, god etc, don't be :)). You can find a lot many Vedic texts in Tipitha. You might have been hearing that Buddha opposed the Vedic teaching, which was just a white blame. He learned all Vedic Samadhis from Alar Kalam and Uddak Ramputtra. Pancha Sila, five moral precepts were already there in the society. Many Trivedi (who knows three Vedas, at that time there was no forth Veda, which was developed after Buddha) Brahmans (Shela, Babari, Janasoni etc) became Buddha's monk, why? Why most of the prominent monks like Sari Puttra, Mogallan, Mahakassap, Mahakotthik, Mahakattayan etc are from Brahman family? Do some study! Buddha was great scientist, he accepted only what was good in Veda, he rejected what was useless. What to talk about super human Buddha, there are lot many things in Veda that simple people like us also can reject. Its another long story, I don't want to go there to generate more confusion. Arya Sakti Ji and Soleli Ji, I don't mind whether Aryan came 5000 years ago or 10,000 years ago. I don't mind whether Max Miller's theory is valid or Kenneth Chandler's. It doesn't matter to me. My purpose is served if you believe in the scientific investigated facts but not on the hypothetical rumors. I believe that we are in the same boat, aren't we :)? Hope you don't believe Vedas are gift of supernormal power and heard in millions of years go in hypothetical era known as Sati :). Hope you believe that Vedas are collection of experiences of an ethnic group which can not be older than ten thousand years :).