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भारतीय भन्दा बढी  भारतीय हुन चाहने नेपाली हरुको लागि

 

१.  भारतले येस्तो विकास गर्यो उस्तो विकास गर्यो भनेर भारतको चाहिने भन्दा बढी  प्रसंसा गर्ने हरु.

२.  अफ्नो कमजोरीको कारणले अमेरिका आएपनि भारतीये प्रभाव बाट मुक्त हुन नसकेका हरु.

३.  नागरिक नेपालको, पढ्ने दुखः गर्ने अमेरिकामा, बस्न खोज्ने अमेरिकामा  तर भारतीय आँखा बाट संसार हेर्ने कुलतमा फसेका हरु.

अलिकति भारतीये बाट सिके कसो होला ? जस्तै

भारतीयहरु अमेरिकामा आएर काम गरेर पैसा कमाएर (अझ कतिपये ले त अमेरिकी सिस्टम लाइ  misuse  गरेर) पनि भारतको प्रसंसा गर्छन भारत येस्तो उस्तो भनेर धाक लगाय्छां) तर भारतीये को Restaurant   अथवा gas  स्टेशन काम गरेको भन्दै छ भन्दैमा भारतीये भन्दा बढी भारतीय हुन जरुरि छ र? यो दासत्वको बनि नछोडे सम्म जति पढे पनि, जति कमाए पनि ब्यबहार दासको जस्तै  भएपछि केहि काम  लाग्दैन.

भुतपूर्व  अमेरिकी रास्त्रपतिले भने जस्तै “If you are not with us then you are with them” साझामा कसैले भारतको बारेमा केहि भन्यो भने तिन बित्ता माथि उफ्रेर भारतको आलोचना गर्ने हरु लाइ भारत बिरोधि भन्दै धारे हात लगाउन कसले सिकायो?

सोच्न सक्ने मान्छेले व्यवहार हेरेर आलोचना अथवा समर्थन गर्छन, भारतमा नै भारतको नीति हरुको बिरोध गर्नी हरु धेरै छन्. भारतको नीतिले नेपालको अहित गरेपछि साधारण सोच्न सक्ने नेपालीले त्यो नीतिको बिरोध गर्नु स्वभाबिक हो. प्रजातान्त्रिक देशमा पढेर बसेर तेती पनि बुज्न  नसक्नेले पढ्न बन्द गरे हुन्छ आखिर college गएर मात्रै  knowledge बढ्ने होइन.

 

अहिले एकजना नेपालीले मंगल ग्रहको फोटो प्रोसेस र बिस्लेसन गरेर पानि  हुन सक्छ भनेर दावा गर्दा “ओझा” पारिवारिक नाम भएकै आधारमा इन्डियन एक्ष्प्रेस्स, Times of India, Press trust of india ले भारतीय बैज्ञानिक भनेर धमाधम समाचार लेखेको सुन्य छ कि छैन?

 

देखेउ भारतीये हरु “ओझा” हुने बित्तिकै कुरै नबुझी भारतीय बैज्ञानिक भन्दै दाबी गर्दा रहेछन?

कसरि फुस्काए आफ्नो धोति उनीहरुले यो केशमा. “Michael”  हुने बित्तिकै अमेरिकन भनेर दाबा गरेको सुन्या छ ?

भारतीये हरु कसरि अफ्नो देशको समर्थन गर्दा रहेछन भन्ने त सिक यो घटना बाट. हुन त कुकुरको पुछार १२ वर्ष सम्म ढुंग्रामा राखेपनि बांगा को बांगैको हुन्छ भन्छन.

आफ्नो ब्यक्तिगत कमजोरीले जुन देशमा गएपनि भारतीय कै पिछलग्गु हुन पर्ने भाग्यमा लेख्या हरुले साझामा आएर भारतीयको प्रसंसाको गीत गाएर नौटंकी देखाउन बन्द गर्ने बेला भो अब

हुन त बुद्दीमा बिर्को लाग्या हरुलाई

कुन सुन कुन पित्तल.

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Sunday, 07 August 2011 09:34 नागरिक
 
 

    

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अमेरिकाको टुसान सहरस्थित एरिजोना विश्वविद्यालयमा जिओफिजिक्स अध्ययनरत २१ वर्षीय गत अप्रिलमा मंगल ग्रहमा पानी रहेको शोध नासालाई बुझाएका थिए।
बिहीबार सिएनएनसँग कुरा गर्दै ओझाले मंगल ग्रहमा पानी रहेको पत्ता लागे पनि त्यसको स्रोतबारे थप अनुसन्धान भइरहेको बताए। अर्को वर्ष स्नातक तहको अध्ययन पूरा गर्ने ओझाको यो खोजपछि मंगल ग्रहमा जीवको सम्भावनाबारे जारी अध्ययनलाई बल पुगेको छ।
'मंगल ग्रहको प्रारम्भिक तस्बिर हेरेर मैले यो शोध गरेको थिएँ,' उनले सिएनएनसँग भनेका छन्, 'त्यो अनुसन्धानमा सहभागी हुन पाउनु मेरो अहोभाग्य हो।' उनले मंगल ग्रहको एउटा सतहमा रहेको खोँचलाई आधार मानेर अध्ययन गरेका थिए। उनले त्यो खोँचमा मौसमअनुसार आउने परिवर्तनबारे अध्ययन गरेका थिए।
उनी अध्ययनरत विश्वविद्यालयको वेबसाइटअनुसार मंगल ग्रहमा पानीको बहावबारे ओझाको पछिल्लो खोज साइन्स जर्नलका सहसम्पादक प्रोफेसर अल्फ्रेड म्याक्विनको मातहत गरेका हुन्। उनले अर्का अनुसन्धानकर्ता कोलिन डुन्दासको सहयोगमा यो खोज गरेका हुन्।
सन् २००८ देखि ओझा एरिजोना हाइ रेजुलुसन इमेजिङ साइन्स एक्सपेरिमेन्ट (हाइराइज) समूहसँग आबद्व भएर अनुसन्धानमा तल्लीन थिए।
ओझाले सबैभन्दा पहिले आफ्नो शोध काउन्सिल अफ अन्डर ग्य्राजुएट रिसर्चले अमेरिकी संसद (क्यापिटोल हिल)मा प्रत्येक वर्ष आयोजना गर्ने कार्यक्रममा गत अप्रिल १३ मा प्रस्तुत गरेका थिए। त्यसमा सांसद, वैज्ञानिक र अनुसन्धानसम्बद्ध संस्था सहभागी हुन्छन्।


लुजेन्द्र स्कुलमा औसत
केटौले उमेरमै मंगल ग्रहमा पानी भएको पत्ता लगाएका लुजेन्द्र ओझा स्कुल पढ्दा औसत विद्यार्थी थिए। पढाइ ठिकै भए पनि केटाकेटीदेखि नै विज्ञान प्रविधिमा भने उनको गहिरो रुचि थियो।
बाबु टंक, आमा रमा र दिदी जाइकासँगै छ वर्षअघि अमेरिकाको एरिजोना गएपछि उनी औसत विद्यार्थीबाट उकालो लाग्दै विश्वविद्यालयका मेधावी छात्र बने। 'नेपालमा हुँदा एभरेज थियो,' एरिजोनाको टुसान सहरबाट नागरिकसँग कुरा गर्दै दिदी जाइकाले भनिन्, 'यता आएपछि राम्रो हुँदै गयो, युनिभर्सिटी छिरेपछि बेस्ट नै भयो।'
लुजेन्द्र पढाइमा कहिल्यै घोकन्ते थिएनन। अरूमा ठिकै भए पनि विज्ञान र गणितमा सधैं राम्रो। 'एक कक्षादेखि नै साइन्सका किताबमा मात्र रमाउँथ्यो,' एरिजोना विश्वविद्यालयबाटै एन्टोमोलोजी (किरा-फट्यांग्रासम्बन्धी विज्ञान) मा पिएचडी गरिरहेकी जाइकाले भनिन्, 'आकाश पातालको खोजबिनमा उहिल्यैदेखि रमाउँथ्यो।'
स्कुल पढ्दै लुजेन्द्रले 'टाइम मेसिन' बनाउने उद्देश्य राखेका थिए। 'मलाई सानैदेखि ब्रम्हाण्डबारे औधी चासो थियो,' सिएनएन वेबसाइटमा लुजेन्द्रलाई उद्धृत गर्दै लेखिएको छ, 'केटाकेटीमै रोमान्चित गर्ने हिमालले मलाई फिजिक्स र जियोलोजी रोज्न आकर्षित गरेको हो।'
लुजेन्द्रको पुर्ख्यौली घर डोटी महादेवस्थान गाविस-२, हिन्नेकाँडा हो। तर, उनी र दिदी काठमाडौंमै जन्मेहुर्केका हुन्। ओझा परिवारको स्थायी बसोबास सामाखुसी म्हैपीमा छ। लुजेन्द्रले ४ कक्षासम्म लैनचौरको आदर्श योगहरि माध्यमिक विद्यालयमा र त्यसपछि ८ कक्षासम्म ज्ञानेश्वरको ग्यालेक्सी पब्लिक स्कुलमा पढेका हुन्।
बाबुले पिएचडी गरेकै एरिजोना विश्वविश्द्यालयमा वैज्ञानिकको नियुक्ति पाएपछि परिवारै सन् २००५ मा अमेरिका बसाइँ सरेको हो। 'ड्याडी नेपाल सम्बन्धी अनुसन्धानको काम गर्नुहुन्छ, अहिले पनि दुई/दुई महिनामा नेपाल गइरहनु हुन्छ,' जाइकाले बताइन्। खानी तथा भूगर्भ विभागमा लामो समय काम गरेका टंकले भूगर्भशास्त्रमै पिएचडी गरेका हुन्।
टुसानको सरकारी स्कुलमा ९ देखि १२ कक्षासम्म पढ्दा लुजेन्द्र तेजिलो हुँदै गए। 'विश्वविद्यालय भर्ना हुनुअघि स्याटको जाँचमा भाइले एरिजोना स्टेट नै टप गर्‍यो,' उनले भनिन्, 'त्यतिबैलै छोराले देश र कुलको नाम राख्यो भनेर बुवाआमा खुसी हुनुभएको थियो।'
बाबु काम गर्ने, दिदीले पिएचडी गरिरहेको विश्वविद्यालयमा परिवारका तेस्रो सदस्यका रूपमा लुजेन्द्र प्रवेश गरे। जियोफिजिक्स मूल र प्लानेटोरी साइन्स सहायक विषय बनाएर पढेका लुजेन्द्रको मेहनत, लगन र जिज्ञासु स्वभावका कारण विश्वविद्यालयले उनलाई एरिजोना हाइ रेजुलुसन इमेजिङ साइन्स एक्सपेरिमेन्ट (हाइराइज) समूहमा राखेका थिए जसले मंगल ग्रहको अनुसन्धान गरेको थियो। 'भाइ यो रिसर्चमा घोटिएको डेढ वर्ष भयो,' जाइकाले भनिन्, 'चार महिनाअघि ह्वाइट हाउसमै (क्यापोटिल हिल) मा प्रस्तुति गरेर आएको थियो।'
अनुसन्धान सफलताको नजिक पुगेको जानकारी परिवारलाई पहिल्यै भए पनि नासाले यसको श्रेय औपचारिक रूपमै लुजेन्द्रलाई दिएको बेला बाबुआमा अमेरिकामा छैनन्। 'ड्याडीमम्मी क्यानाडा घुम्न जानुभएको छ, भाइलाई पनि दौडादौड छ,' जाइकाले भनिन्, 'परिवार जम्मा भएर रमाउन पाइएको छैन।'
तीन दिनदेखि लुजेन्द्रलाई नेपाली समुदायबाट बधाईग्रहण लिन, स्थानीय/अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय सञ्चार माध्यमलाई अन्तर्वार्ता दिन र विश्वविद्यालयका कार्यक्रममा सरिक हुन भ्याइनभ्याई छ। नागरिकले पटकपटक सम्पर्क गर्दा पनि उनीसँग सम्पर्क हुन सकेन।
'इन्डियन मिडियाले जथाभावी लेखिसके, एउटा केटोले देशको इज्जत बढ्ने काम गर्दा पनि नेपालीलाई वास्तै रहेनछ,' जाइका दुखी भइन्, 'हाम्रो भाइलाई इन्डियन एक्सप्रेसले भारतीय भनेर प्रचार गरेकामा साह्रै चित्त दुखेको छ।'
नासाले बिहीबार पत्रकार सम्मेलन गर्नेबित्तिकै भारतका अन्य छापा र विद्युतीय माध्यमले पनि लुजेन्द्रलाई भारतीय भनेर प्रचार गरेको छ। 'यो प्रचारले ड्याडीमम्मी पनि दुखी भएर फोन गर्नुभयो,' उनले भनिन्।

 
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Behoove_me I think you are going out of real topics, this topic is not about hating individual Indian, It’s about preserving our identity and supporting our own.
 
As you mentioned many times, you are proud Nepali .Then where is your responsibilities lies, to support Indian movies Indian culture and Indian clubs. If you so proud to be Nepalese shouldn’t’ you be supporting loud about our culture, our heritage and our people...

I know we are not a bigger nation. By population, economy or any other way. Even though we are a small nation we have our own identity culture, movie, music etc. shouldn’t we be supporting our own country? I know probably you don’t find MAHA jodi, and other people as talented as dhoti, I disagree 100% coz its your view but as a proud Nepalese I find Rajesh Hamal and Niruta better, Narayan gopal better then any other Indian singers, I laugh my Ars*e off watching MAHA jodi, Jire Khursani,our football team then any other. I am a biggest fan of Liverpool since early age but if any Nepalese club, Nepal to play with Liverpool I will support Nepalese team, I know they may be thrashed by 20 to Nil but end its who I am ..where my identity starts from, I am Nepali all over, and I feel it’s my duty my responsibility to support my own even though they may  not be the best. I need to think what I have done to make it better. What is my role as a Nepalese? How can I make a difference? Truly I haven’t watched Hindi movie or listen to any Hindi songs for last 14 yrs, Its not because I hate Indian, Because I hate there policy against our nation (my home).If shopkeeper next throw stone @ my house, treat me like shit, what will I do try to avoid shopping at his place, I walk extra length to get what I want, the way India treat Nepal due to its size and power, I hate India, I don’t’ hate Indian.
 
But I do watch Nepalese movie, listen to our music, I believe if we all did what we can from our own aspects. it will improve eventually. Even story line/acting might not be perfect, It feel so good to see pokhara, naubise ko bato ma bus gudeko. Cholo guniyo lagayera afno gau sahar, goreto ..hideko dekhda, I feel proud coz I can proudly say that’s where I belong, that’s where I grew up, I can relate my up bringing to that movies. If we not going to watch, listen ours movies music and expect it to change. You must be kidding Behoove_me.It need support from so called Nepalese. If you can’t support and expect it to be better then you should be making fool of yourself. I think you should first look at your self then only declare. Are you a proud Nepali ? ??  When you are ashamed of supporting what is Nepali.
 
Zombie4 Nepal: “'Nepali Cultural Nights' at big universities and start playing Indian songs in no time. You bootlickers really disgust me.”
 
I agree with you if it related with word Nepal where does India comes from, Nepal is itself a sovereign country. We do have our own music, own culture and own identity. We have similar issues here in Australia, you go to this cultural shows and you see people dancing on Hindi songs/music. Aren’t we trying to promote our culture? when  we have our own music, own cultural why we playing some one elses music and culture, Indian not going to dance on Nepalese songs when they have there cultural shows, Or do they ?. Yes !! We do but this people can’t think. All they can blame other for not having that quality etc. when they freakn supporting Indian all alone and expect it to be perfect.
 
 
 
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All nepalese who loves nepal, can we do this at least; lets stop playing hindi songs and dancing in public gathering? We have enough good songs to dance. Can everyone commit it ?

 
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@bhimesh... laamo! thats enough!
 
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Crazynep,
For a second I thought you were burning that midnight oil over my gibberish comment until I realized you were from down under. Prior to pitching my own thoughts (again), let me take some time in thanking you for the time you spent in replying to me. Believe me, eons ago, in sajha, someone like you had chosen to the same, he was someone from Wichita, Kansas and he, for no reason called me a fool, moron, used some expletives to get his point across. So, I really appreciate the maturity you have displayed.
Now let’s get to the point. While I agree few things that you mentioned – most primarily it is not about resenting Indians but preserving our culture, part of me still makes an effort to understand if our personal choices make us lesser Nepalese. You sound more patriotic than me, you certainly do. But is that patriotism or jingoism or fanaticism or even extremism? Please ask yourself. Also, here is the fallacy in your comment. As you type those words, you were perhaps sipping a hot latte in frigid outback; you were not in Nepal at the comfort of your living room. If you only support what Nepal offers, shouldn’t you be studying (or working) in Nepal than migrate to a foreign nation? You do have a choice don’t you? Also, do you always wear daura suruwal? Don’t you ever eat samosa? And why aren’t you typing in devanagiri? See, preserving our culture does not mean we need to confine ourselves in our culture or to resent others’. Our simple choices shouldn’t define how ‘unpatriotic ‘we are.
Speaking of comparison, if Natikaji and Ustad Amjad Ali Khan would compete against each other unplugged, I would, by all means will not support the latter. But in all honesty, at all times, I would prefer listening to Amjad Ali over Natikaji, simply because it is my choice. I was deeply perturbed when the vice president in Nepal chose to take his oath in Hindi, that is murder, that is an absolute wrongdoing, but I would never cease listening to Hindi songs or watch Hindi movies only to vent my frustrations.
You may disagree, but we are all playing devil’s advocate here. We take the first aircraft out of Nepal to a foreign land, display our international best the moment we land in America (or Canada, Australia, England, even China, Dubai and Malaysia for that reason) even beseech the immigration to let us stay abroad, yet we do not spare chipping our thoughts when it comes to National pride. Shouldn’t we return to Nepal instead?
Finally, despite our choices, and our locations, we all are Nepalese regardless. Our culture and heritage is to love everyone, and disseminate peace and harmony, not to fanatically guard our stance and feign our patriotism regarding unrealistic choices we make.
Peace.

 
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 Behoove_Me

Many of your points doesn't make sense and some are totally out of context. Anyways! here's response to your point wise listings and some of them may be my personal views. 

1. You mentioned  that India as a  prosperous nation.Which is not true.It is obviously one of the fastest growing economy but also, it is still among the poorest country in the world.Many of it's citizens,More than the population of the United States, are under the line of poverty.India ranks 138th in national GDP per capita and 129th in GDP per capita purchasing power parity among all countries of the world. U said "it's a superpower and issue of supremacy and nothing else,They are just bulling over small nation like nepal".But let's not forget that there is another much bigger giant called 'China' which is huge ,prosperous and  more powerful than India.However,as far as i can remember 'China' never tried to bully Nepal and/or intervene on our internal matters.But on the other hand, freakin India tries to play on our every major internal issues.They pretent to be  supremo and brag this and that; but in reality they sucks so bad in  the world stage.

2. Just born and raised in Kathmandu does not make you so called "full blooded Nepalese" .it is something that lies within you,it is that feeling that makes you uniquely and automatically a Nepali kanchha....if you got one!!..lol.you don't have to born and raise in kathmandu to gain/develop this feeling, it generates within yourself even if you are born in the vicinity of Indian or Chinese Border.

3.Yes! you are lucky enough to earn that Nepalese pride,Because you are borned in Soverign nation like Nepal that never fall under any other nation and /or superpower( land of Brave Gurkhas).(India was owned,controlled and  individually operated by white British people for many many years.Many of the modern development we see today are contribution of those white British people.for instance Indian railroad,Highway network to many other infrastructures.)

4.Now,after reading this point I doubt that you are born and raised in kathmandu.from my experience i can tell, how the guy raised in ktm looks like.There was a guy named "sth sth "Jha"'.who lived next to my house and grew up in kath. He has no madshi accent at all.Just by talking style and outer appearance it is very hard to tell that he is the product of madheshi parents.He hung out with local guys,listened nepali pop and/or english heavy metals.  KK ---are you f**king kidding me??who the hell is he? i bet guys in Ktm never listen to those lousy indian musics and many of them don't give a sh**it about indian music.Ya as you mentioned ktm people are fond of "Led Zepplin", " Jim Morrison","Kurt kobin", "ACSDC" and so on.Bro keep that in mind that typical Ktm people especially younger people of my generation don't care about indian music, and we don't give a sh**it about it.This is what explains your true I.D. and, if you keep boasting like this about  Indian culture,humm Indian songs like a weird sick joker, movies and so on  that mainstream people,who don't understand hindi,may think you as a foreigner or a indian Dhoti; which will lead to a case of seperation and   more discrimination.Talking more about culture.what happened to your  "Maithili" culture ( which i suppose is very different from F**in hindi).Even inside india Gujarati,South Indian,Nagaland and many other dont watch,talk or even care about Hindi Movies, singer etc so, why do we nepali as the topic of this thread mentioned " bharatiye bhanda badi bharatiya huna chahi ra chau" .Just answers me this part please! pretty Please........Why we Nepali  bharatiye bhanda badi bharatiya huna chahi ra chau ??

5.Yes! that's right, it is understandable that the people from  Dailekh, Darchula and Taplejung as you mentioned stinks because they lack water to shower and weather condition but on the other hand Indians,even affluent rich and well educated, probably bath 10 times a day and waste all the perfumes but still they smell like a crap, a kind of weird sweaty curry smell ,may be it is in their gene or something.Nepalese people may have acclimatized and adapt to resist that smell but white people can tell from a couple of feet of distance that where the smell is coming from and who the culprit is.

6.Yes! that's right.They don't know Sh**it about Nepal,except that Nepal is(was) a hindu kingdom and there are many hindus. 

7. Yes! we are and we will always be. world knows us as country of brave Gurkhas,world record breaking mountain climbers and yet humble(not arrogant) and peace loving people.

Again, you don't need to  reiterate that " I am proud Nepali" phrase all the time.If you truely believe then yes You ARE!!  Hoho!

Peace out ! !

 
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Timesquare,

I choose not to reply to individuals that resort to profanity or smoldering enmity, also I read my comment and re-read yours. Your accusations were uncalled for. Having said that I respect your opinion although wish you were a little more articulate, a little more convincing and little more polite. My reply was to timi_mero_saathi and no one else. Also, I am not trying to stir up any negative emotions not I tend to be subjected to any curse words or blasphemy. Timi_mero_saathi had some excellent points and I only wanted to ask him where I was wrong.

Your opinion matters very much to you as mine does to me, so thank you all the same.
 
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 It looks like you conceded and switched side to Nepal now and, trying to be friend after bragging about hindi this and hindi that comments.I have no hatred or animosity toward anyone but because of  some of your senseless comment you untied my hands and forced me to put some words. It's your choice either you listen to hindi,telegu,african beat,Mexican rio Bravo or whatever but you went one step further and  tried to impose your choice by denouncing and in many cases compairing major and/or favourite Nepali artist and singers to unknown indian's(may be you know them all or whatever).That is not acceptable to me and many other Nepaliz ppl out there. As
Auguste Comte  said "The dead govern the living.".Culture,language and tradition is that dead thing which governs and defines who you are.You are! what your culture is!.You probably lost your "Maithili" culture in persuit of some wannabe Hindi customs and is in "Identity Crisis" mode right now; otherwise, you won't brag so much about hindi.Anyways! it's a universal truth that "You'll lose your Identity; when your culture is gone";it's that fair and simple.






 
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Thank you Timesquare, your words speak of yourself.

Speaking of being friends, I have always been friends with everyone else here, including you. You are a smart person ,only because my opinions differ with you should not make me your sworn nemesis, should it? I have always supported things I choose and that must not make me your enemy. On the other hand, if you choose to villify me for being a 'supposed' maithili, it is out of my control.
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Behoove_me
Your title sounnds more like "somebody whoop ma ass_me" lol. Just kidding!!. You are one adroit smart ass, who likes to keep it clean.Anyways,As long as you embrace or at least try to respect Nepali culture and halt the bragging of that pro-hindi/india views; you will be and  always remain very comfortable within nepali circle.Also, about the" Maithili" thing.I would  rather support and  pay respect to your "Maithili agenda", if you had come here and try to advocate it.However, you chose not to,U refrain from hugging your very own Maithili culture and went far south with wannabe hindi customs and moreover, tried to boast about it.( As i said earlier, even inside india Tamil,south indian(telegu),gujrati and many other people do not take into account or speak "Hindi" in their day-to-day life.Infact i met several gujrati,and south indians who doesn't even know a simple hindi word) Now, You tell me! what do people like you and me needs to learn from those "Telegu" speaking South Indians who doesn't embrace H-INDI culture within and outside of India?? 

 
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I am smiling at your comments Timesquare. I love the way your respond, such intensity, if put into public speaking would certainly garner accolades.A wise person that you are, I am certain there are more to come towards my end. Bring it on! I am highly interested.
 
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  "Hurrah."..yeah i got "A+++" on my public speaking class,and want to be a "Neta" to control some of the bhedaazz of our great Nepal.OOps!Nope,that is just a flat joke...By the way, there's no more points to bring on anymore,everything has been said already.In sum, let's not forget our culture and I.D.It represents who you are.Don't lose and let it slip away under the influence of foreign Hindi culture.


 
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Ah! So you are still a student, why didn't I guess that at the first place? Good luck in finding job timesquare. DOW just dipped 633.
 
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1.       1. Yes big country usually ignore small or week neighbor. That is true but at the same time small countries have defended themselves effectively. Big country says so and so small country reply appropriately. This is neither declaring war nor hating the big country. This is just defending your country. My complain is to those sajhaites who wannabe more Indian then the Indian themselves. If someone says something about bad policies of India towards Nepal they immediately jump like Tom Cruse  defending India and at the same time cursing Nepal

 

Your neighbor is big that does not mean that whatever it says is right. Big neighbor has its own interests. They want to manipulate small neighbor for their own benefit. And in case of India they are very manipulative. Whenever Nepal is in turmoil they want us to sign many treaties. We need to defend that’s all. If you don’t defend, India will be more and more demanding. In my posting I have never said that we need to hate common Indian, India. India is our neighbor it is always nice to have good relation with neighbor. This does not mean that you have to accept whatever they say. If India is doing something wrong which hurts Nepal. We must say don’t do that, and if they continue we must be ready to show little anger just to let them know that we are not happy. In the name of big country no one can have monopoly. Regarding development of India, it is overhyped and over rated.
Yes they have developed a lot. But they have yet to solve many problems which are dragging them behind. If you don’t believe me check how many Indians go to Middle East every year as a cheap labor? Behavior of india  is like a new entrant of the company behaving like CEO.They need to change that.

 India wants permanent seat in UN security counsel but how can you be a permanent member when you have problems with all of your neighbors. For India, Nepal is the most friendly country. We have open border and still India wants to behave like a boss.

 

2.      2.  For this point my friend I am sorry to say that neither born nor raised in ktm does  makes you pure Nepali nor hating India and Indian makes you a patriotic Nepali. To be a true Nepali I believe you have to proof it by deed. Look how many Americans go and die in foreign soil for their country. We don’t need to do the same thing, Just defend Nepal for her rights. As a citizen we have some responsibility too.

Some Sajhaites claim to be Nepali but always ready to curse Nepal for wrong reason. Why some Nepalese are always ready to jump /praise/ defend India even though those policies are against the international norms? Nepal is the responsibility of we Nepalese not of someone else.

And, defending Nepal for her rights is not against India, is it?

 3.    I think you are intelligent enough to differentiate between hate and rightful defense. Defending Nepal against wrong policy does not mean declaring war against India, is it? I see a very bold line not fine line or grey area between those two.

 

4.       4. Regarding our involvement of Indian music movies and sport. When you ask your father uncle, what was the Bollywood music like in 70's and 80's they say it was very different than today’s Bollywood music. Bollywood music has changed a lot because of the changes in Hollywood. Our father /uncle had no choice, no window to look beyond Bollywood but we do have. Now we know a paralyzing story plus Michael Jackson type dance makes Bollywood movie. I don’t hate Indian music in fact I have posted many in “kurakani”. I like soft music be it Bollywood or western but I prefer Nepali music over Bollywood. Ppl say Nepali music is just copy of Indian music. I don’t mind because Indian also copied many from western music. They started to copy in 50’s we started to copy later. liking better quality is not a question here defending others average quality by cursing your own average quality is the problem

 

Regarding Indian films more hilarious than MAHA.  First I don’t watch Hindi films. I stopped watching them when I turned 16. Too cheap comedy, too boring, too out of touch. Yes I have watched MAHA many times; they are within the context, not boring. Now your liking of Delly-Belly.  I would like to say this. Well, as a Nepali we have some responsibility for our country; we haven’t done anything special yet so try to do whatever small thing possible.

 If you eat rice everyday your body system is tuned to Rice, digestive enzymes hormones all know what to expect for digestion so when we come to US we can’t eat Pasta, bread potato for dinner we need rice, our body demands it. But you also know that it is possible to have pasta, bread, potato, or Pizza for dinner. Western people are conversant to this. For western people it is very difficult to have rice as dinner. They may take it as side this though or they may preparer it in different way.

 By watching Hindi TV serials, films my friend, you have made your neurons addicted to those things. You know it very clearly that it is possible to live happily without them and you wouldn’t miss anything. I stopped watching Hindi films when I turned 16. But that does not mean that I hate Hindi films.It is just because they don’t give me any entertainment.  Two years back I happen to watch one Hindi film “chalte chalte” of SRK; It was so boring I gave up after one hr. Does that makes me anti Indian?

My friend you will surprise to know that many in India do not watch Hindi films, you don’t believe me then listen please, I herd the news  in media that latest hit Hindi film (I forgot the name) made one billion Indian rupees.They wer baosting about it.

Let us do some math here

Average ticket price is 40 rupiah (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/movie-tickets-to-cost-you-more-across-state/166798-60-121.html)

 

Let us say out of these only 10 goes to movie maker , that means to make one billion, 100 million people have to watch that movie

Population of India is approx 1.2 billion.  Let us say 50% (very conservativ estimate) are below 10 and above 70 who usually don’t go to movies. So movie goers population is about 600 million (very conservative estimate) out of those 600 million only 100 million watch that latest hit movie  lets us say in due course another 100 million went to watch that movie ( which is very unlikely) even then it will be less than 50% of the movie goers in very conservative estimate .

That means even in India majority of population have not watched latest hit Bollywood movie. But some Nepali can’t not survive without it, what can I say?

I watch Hollywood movies which gives me the entertainment I want, but I don’t jump in sajha and praise Hollywood movies and curse Nepali movies.

I have watched many good Nepali movies. But lately they are photocopying Hindi movies. Anyway Indian too copy 2-3 Hollywood movies to make one of theirs  so that people cant realized it is copied.

I was in Delhi in 2005 staying in one hotel, there was a TV serial going on (I forgot the name) but it was a ditto copy of 1980 American TV serial “Threes company”. There may be many more.

My message here is, it is possible to live happily without Bollywood. There are better choices available. But some Sajhaite come here and defend Bollywood as if they know the ultimate truth.

 And if you feel some responsibility towards your country you can stop watching Hindi film and say yeah I like Hindi film but because of Indian govt. policy, I dont want to watch , thats it.

Business is business. If you don’t protest then how do Indians know that their policy is wrong?

Regarding the Western songs,  they have not bad mouthed about our country yet, if they do we can let them know that we don’t like their way, can we do that much for our country?am I asking too much?

If we can’t do anything then what is the difference between us and those corrupt people in Nepal. They do economic corruption to destroy the country and we will be doing intellectual corruption to destroy the country. Shame on us.

Regarding the use of word dhoti, Indians have few derogatory words for us we have some for them, tit for tat. If they can use, we can use too. If they stop we will stop too.

5.      5.  Every country depends on other countries these days. Look at US, will it be able to survive as it is without China? How much will be inflation in US if it stops importing from china? Don’t you think 50% of American will be instant poor if US stop importing from china?

China is holding   American bonds approximately of 1.3 trillion dollar value. US is in trouble these days. If China wants to destroy US. It just have to sell those bonds in 1/10 of their book value, then what will happen to Wall str. tomorrow? What will be the value of dollar? Yes they increase the debt ceiling but who will buy the debt? Yet few months back when Chinese President visited US, they raise the question of Human rights in China, National Interests are of immense important.

 People living in US, all sorts of information available to them but yet they jump in Sajha to defend India, saying that India has given us oil salt, scholarship bla bla, too much of Inferiority complex. India has not given us for free we pay cash.

Then why can’t you guys say China has given US everything without China US can’t survive. Talk with average US people what they say about China? They do not have that Inferiority complex as some of us do.

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Beehove_me
 
First of all let me clarify you, Australia do have cities, roads, cars and buildings too J its not all outback. & forget to tell you “you don’t see kangaroos running through middle of the cities nor you see koala hanging off the balcony.
 
Aani Rani pokhari ko bich ma Himal chaina, Singha durbar himal ko tuppo ma baseko chaina ni as some people assume when you say “Nepal”

I am patriotic as I need to be, unlike your wobbly sentence “I am proud Nepali” words doesn’t mean much.” Action speaks louder”
 
As to your question “ shouldn’t you be studying (or working) in Nepal than migrate to a foreign nation?
 
Yes I did finished my year 12 in Nepal, not in Dheradun or TamilNadu.I did my further education here in Australia. I am glad that I studied and lived abroad , reason made me so much patriotic, that made me realized the importance of my own Identity, Country as whole.
 
To do something for your country doesn’t’ mean you have to be based on your country. Every individual can play a role for there country in there own way, Nepali Dai/Bhai working in Qatar and Korea are more patriotic then anyone living in Nepal (more referring to dalal dhoti puchar Neta, Corrupt official, dhoti geet ma jhumera aafulai hero thane haru). Even though people living in Sikkim and Darjeeling are Indian Citizen but they are hard follower of Nepalese culture, walking down the street in Darjeeling you here more Nepalese songs, music then any where in Nepal.
 
·         Nepal heavily rely on REMITTANCE, those are the people working hard in rigid condition to generate that REMITTANCE.
 
·         They are the biggest supporter of Nepalese cultural shows, Nepalese Artist, Lok Dohori Geet and Nepalese movies. Not Ustad ali or who ever you into.
 
·         They do lot of social work through the fund raising activities, maybe there contribution doesn’t’ seems huge. But we’ve got to appreciate for there efforts, there contribution ( Probably you don’t’ even remember if you ever been to any fund raising events to help build Nepal- Just sit on a side and whinge about Nepal this Nepal that- Believe me Nepal is a beautiful country, I travelled few places no place is prettier then Nepal, It’s a people who just do nothing and complain, who do not support anything but just sit and complain made it a fail state- Nepal is perfect .. fertile land, rivers mountains, jungle.. flat plain area. hilly area. name it , great culture, festival, food .It has it all)
·         They actively promote Nepal in Asian region. ( I know it’s a duty of Nepalese embassy but discard this bastar*s they here with there whole family. If I had a choice first thing I will do chop off most of the Nepalese embassy abroad, its just total waste of money. Probably it cost Nepalese government more the 100K/mth to run embassy in Australia. But they don’t’ do shit. most likely they do renew few passport in a month.
For eg: Nepalese Ambassador in Australia lives in 10K/mth house with his family, his son/daughter both goes to one of the best university in Australia, and most expensive. He have a car driver- and cook both with whole families, both of there sibling goes to those expensive university.
They have additional 4 more official family/ each have car, accomodation. Imagine the cost of running embassy & they fck*n do nothing.People in far west don’t have any food in there plate..no education) saying that we as individual can do our best to promote Nepal amongst our friends colleagues and people we come across.
 
I guess that proves my point how people living abroad can make contribution towards there country. I do visit Nepal almost every year, do spend money helping the industries there, I do support any fund raising activity for Nepal, I do see myself as an ambassador of my country ( offcourse without pay- Volunteer/un-official) I do promote Nepal amongst My colleagues, friends and people I come across and encourage them to visit Nepal. Tourism is also the largest source of income. I do attend when any artist visit Australia, I do buy there album even if I am not a fond of those music. I do contribute from my aspect even though it’s a not a big contribution.
 
Of course I don’t wear daura Surwal , I hope u don’t’ walk around in Dhoti. But some cultural events I do wear Daura Surwal.( I don’t’ think you even have Daura Surwal on your wardrobe) About samosa , I do eat samosa once in a while but from the Nepalese shop in Australia, but I prefer Momo, choila bhuttuwa ..Etc and I do eat every week, its privileged to have so many Nepalese restaurant here  in Australia.
 
 
I have nobody  , each and every one is good people. Some elements are bad. But I don’t’ see the point of arguing about watching Hindi movies or listening to Hindi movies. Its not part of us, Its not our culture its belongs to someone else. Why can’t we watch n support our own, rather promoting some one elses. What we really have to do with India. We are always Independent country, sovereign nation, we share same religion and border does that means we have to support them. While they supporting there own.” NO’ China share border with India, do that means they have to watch Hindi movies and dance in balle balle. NO they have own identity own music own movies own culture . we shouldn’t be discussing on this @ all, Coz we shouldn’t let there culture. music movies influence over ours. Every Nepalese should be cherishing for what we represent and what we are. Hindi/India should be out of topics.
I hate India not for its culture or people for its behaviour towards our nation. The game they play. I do hate Nepali Neta & Corrupt official because of there inclination towards India there support.
 
India itself have its own issues even though there economy is booming,  maoist guerrillas are highly active in one region. Separatist group are demanding separate state. Even though economy boomed there poverty line hasn’t dropped @ all. There inflation is lot higher (over 14%) for last few years. They have more terrorist threat then any other nation (with high % of muslim within) .
 
Lets all support ours and see where it takes, I know it’s a slow process eventually things will change. We as a nation we have lot to offer, we are more generous people, we aren’t’ crook as Indians are, we are in better position. I know Nepal need people within and need people abroad, as we depend so much on Remittance. 2012 I am thinking of going back to Nepal, I know there are wonderful opportunity if you do go back, Brain- drain is the biggest issue. We couldn’t’ retain brainy people in the country. Where there are harsh situation it also open the window of opportunity Eg: load shedding, water shortage. has generated lots of job opportunity, battery maker, fitter, tanker driver & supplier etc. we fail to look for the opportunity and all we do is complain about it. If you are talent and willing to do something within there are plenty of opportunity while enjoying the company of your family, people...enjoying your food and your own culture. I haven’t came across a single returnee from here who hasn’t’ been a successful on there own definition.
 
 

 
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continue from my answer above

But why we Nepalese have to afraid to tell India that your policy regarding Nepal is wrong. We people are saying it loudly from very long time But Indians are ignoring it it is the time to show them hey if you guys want business you better correct your policy towards Us when Indian PM visit Nepal? These days relationship between different countries is symbiotic not one way.

1.      6.  It is the problem of Indian education system they should let their kid know about their neighbors. They haven’t realize the importance of “know your neighbors”

2.       7. Last not least Defending Nepal for her rights does not make one anti Indian. May be we always failed to take rightful stand for Nepal, Indian govt knows this that is why they  ignore Nepal



 
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Beehove_me
 
First of all let me clarify you, Australia do have cities, roads, cars and buildings too J its not all outback. & forget to tell you “you don’t see kangaroos running through middle of the cities nor you see koala hanging off the balcony.
 
Aani Rani pokhari ko bich ma Himal chaina, Singha durbar himal ko tuppo ma baseko chaina ni as some people assume when you say “Nepal”

I am patriotic as I need to be, unlike your wobbly sentence “I am proud Nepali” words doesn’t mean much.” Action speaks louder”
 
As to your question “ shouldn’t you be studying (or working) in Nepal than migrate to a foreign nation?
 
Yes I did finished my year 12 in Nepal, not in Dheradun or TamilNadu.I did my further education here in Australia. I am glad that I studied and lived abroad , reason made me so much patriotic, that made me realized the importance of my own Identity, Country as whole.
 
To do something for your country doesn’t’ mean you have to be based on your country. Every individual can play a role for there country in there own way, Nepali Dai/Bhai working in Qatar and Korea are more patriotic then anyone living in Nepal (more referring to dalal dhoti puchar Neta, Corrupt official, dhoti geet ma jhumera aafulai hero thane haru). Even though people living in Sikkim and Darjeeling are Indian Citizen but they are hard follower of Nepalese culture, walking down the street in Darjeeling you here more Nepalese songs, music then any where in Nepal.
 
·         Nepal heavily rely on REMITTANCE, those are the people working hard in rigid condition to generate that REMITTANCE.
 
·         They are the biggest supporter of Nepalese cultural shows, Nepalese Artist, Lok Dohori Geet and Nepalese movies. Not Ustad ali or who ever you into.
 
·         They do lot of social work through the fund raising activities, maybe there contribution doesn’t’ seems huge. But we’ve got to appreciate for there efforts, there contribution ( Probably you don’t’ even remember if you ever been to any fund raising events to help build Nepal- Just sit on a side and whinge about Nepal this Nepal that- Believe me Nepal is a beautiful country, I travelled few places no place is prettier then Nepal, It’s a people who just do nothing and complain, who do not support anything but just sit and complain made it a fail state- Nepal is perfect .. fertile land, rivers mountains, jungle.. flat plain area. hilly area. name it , great culture, festival, food .It has it all)
·         They actively promote Nepal in Asian region. ( I know it’s a duty of Nepalese embassy but discard this bastar*s they here with there whole family. If I had a choice first thing I will do chop off most of the Nepalese embassy abroad, its just total waste of money. Probably it cost Nepalese government more the 100K/mth to run embassy in Australia. But they don’t’ do shit. most likely they do renew few passport in a month.
For eg: Nepalese Ambassador in Australia lives in 10K/mth house with his family, his son/daughter both goes to one of the best university in Australia, and most expensive. He have a car driver- and cook both with whole families, both of there sibling goes to those expensive university.
They have additional 4 more official family/ each have car, accomodation. Imagine the cost of running embassy & they fck*n do nothing.People in far west don’t have any food in there plate..no education) saying that we as individual can do our best to promote Nepal amongst our friends colleagues and people we come across.
 
I guess that proves my point how people living abroad can make contribution towards there country. I do visit Nepal almost every year, do spend money helping the industries there, I do support any fund raising activity for Nepal, I do see myself as an ambassador of my country ( offcourse without pay- Volunteer/un-official) I do promote Nepal amongst My colleagues, friends and people I come across and encourage them to visit Nepal. Tourism is also the largest source of income. I do attend when any artist visit Australia, I do buy there album even if I am not a fond of those music. I do contribute from my aspect even though it’s a not a big contribution.
 
Of course I don’t wear daura Surwal , I hope u don’t’ walk around in Dhoti. But some cultural events I do wear Daura Surwal.( I don’t’ think you even have Daura Surwal on your wardrobe) About samosa , I do eat samosa once in a while but from the Nepalese shop in Australia, but I prefer Momo, choila bhuttuwa ..Etc and I do eat every week, its privileged to have so many Nepalese restaurant here  in Australia.
 
 
I have nobody  , each and every one is good people. Some elements are bad. But I don’t’ see the point of arguing about watching Hindi movies or listening to Hindi movies. Its not part of us, Its not our culture its belongs to someone else. Why can’t we watch n support our own, rather promoting some one elses. What we really have to do with India. We are always Independent country, sovereign nation, we share same religion and border does that means we have to support them. While they supporting there own.” NO’ China share border with India, do that means they have to watch Hindi movies and dance in balle balle. NO they have own identity own music own movies own culture . we shouldn’t be discussing on this @ all, Coz we shouldn’t let there culture. music movies influence over ours. Every Nepalese should be cherishing for what we represent and what we are. Hindi/India should be out of topics.
I hate India not for its culture or people only for its behaviour towards our nation. The game they play. I do hate Nepali Neta & Corrupt official because of there inclination towards India there support.
 
India itself have its own issues even though there economy is booming, Maoist guerrillas are highly active in one region. Separatist group are demanding separate state. Even though economy boomed there poverty line hasn’t dropped @ all. There inflation is lot higher (over 14%) for last few years. They have more terrorist threat then any other nation (with high % of Muslim within) .
 
Lets all support ours and see where it takes, I know it’s a slow process eventually things will change. We as a nation we have lot to offer, we are more generous people, we aren’t’ crook as Indians are, we are in better position. I know Nepal need people within and need people abroad, as we depend so much on Remittance. 2012 I am thinking of going back to Nepal, I know there are wonderful opportunity if you do go back, Brain- drain is the biggest issue. We couldn’t’ retain brainy people in the country. Where there are harsh situation it also open the window of opportunity Eg: load shedding, water shortage. has generated lots of job opportunity, battery maker, fitter, tanker driver & supplier etc. we fail to look for the opportunity and all we do is complain about it. If you are talent and willing to do something within there are plenty of opportunity while enjoying the company of your family, people...enjoying your food and your own culture. I haven’t came across a single returnee from here who hasn’t’ been a successful on his own definition.
 
 

 
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 What's your point dude ? Seems like you slowly started to show your true malevolent nature.  Also, i can tell you have serious myopia problem which is hindering your true progresses so far.You obviously lack foresight and quality of seeing things in a different perspectives. My two cents advice for you- pls develop your mentality with "What-if" perspective.What makes you think i am a student anyways?You believe what i said just from a mere sentence earlier.Looks like anyone can bamboozle you very easily.hoho-ho!! 

 
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 We hate indians coz they look down to us. they have prototyped us as Bahdur, kancha, and kanchi. They are the biggest mouth in the world. Their true level is shown by 3rd grade melodramatic massala bollywood movies. Khate haru ke ke na gare bhancha. India is mendicant's country. They are the most merciless person, people with fettered heart filled with pus.

Jasle je suaki bhan, gas station ma kaam garne karinda haru karaudai garch WE HATE DHOTI AND THEIR CRAPPY DHOTILAND. Again we hate all the nepalese wannabe dhotis even more. If I needed to kill between a dhoti and a dhoti's as$ kissing so called nepali I would kill the latter first with no regrets.   All the dhoti lovers go and shove your black hairy AS$ somewhere else, do not show your dhoti bhakti in sajha. Sajha is ours, the nepal and nepali lovers'. 

NEPALESE A$$ IS FAIRER THAN DHOTI FACE.

Jai Nepal 
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