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 अम्रिकामा डाक्टर कसोरी बन्ने ??
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Posted on 02-23-18 5:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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दाई/दिदि हरु

म नेपाल मा MBBS को preperation गरि र थिए, १२ पछि DV पर्यो, के गर्ने के गर्ने confuse भयो, साथीहरुले usa जा life enjoy गर भने म नि होलाता भनेर padai बिचैमा छोडेर यता आए. life enjoy गर्न.. अब हजुर हरु लाई थाहा छदै छ यहाँ को life , म नि gas station म़ा फुल time life enjoy gari ra छु ६ मैना भो .. म त depression म जौला जस्तो भै सक्यो..म १२ मा science मा ७० % कटाको मान्छे, नेपाल मा doctor बन्ने सपना बोकेको कहाँ बाट यो dv पर्यो, कमाई राम्रै छ उमेर नि १८ मात्र, घर मा finencial problem केहि छैन, सबै ठिकै छ ..तर जब साथी हरु त्यो college को doctor student को सेतो uniform मा देक्छु अनि आफु लाई gas station ma enjoy गरि र देख्छु मन कुदियेर औच, एक्लै रुन मन लाग्छ...

बाच्न त कुकुर बिरालो ले नि बाचेको हुन्छ तर लछे बिनाको जीवन के जीवन, मैले यहाँ नि school जाने सोचे तर ३०-४०के खर्च गरेर नि लास्ट मा जानु पर्ने तेइ desi consultancy रैछ , ऐले म सोची रा छु तेती पैसा खर्च गर्यो भने त नेपाल मै doctor बन्न सकिने रैछ, नेपाल मा यहाँ को जस्तो पैसा नभए नि इज्जत र आत्मसम्मान त छ, त्यो कुरा चै मैले यहाँ आएर gas station मा सेकिए पछि realize गरे,

ऐले कुरो बुज्दै जादा त, नेपाल मा doctor पढे पछि यहाँ practice नि गर्न पैदो रैछ, अनि यहाँ त जस्तो doctor ले नि मज्जाले ३००K खादो रैछ बर्सको... सुनेको यहाँ doctor पर्न चै जो कोइ ले सक्दैन रे यहाँको student को नि doctor पर्दा २००-४००k सम्म debt हुन्छ रे, बरु नेपाल मा पढेर यहाँ प्राक्टिस गर्न सजिलो हुन्छ रे , के यो साचो हो?

कोइ दिदि जादु यो फोरम मा एसको जानकार हुनु हुन्छ भने मलाई अलिकति idea दिनु होला , नेपाल बाट पढेर यहाँ कसोरी doctor बन्ने...मेरो कच्चा दिमाग भएर हो कि के हो मलाई त यो gc छोडेर नेपाल मा गएर पढ्न मन छ , येदि मैले usa छोडेर नेपाल गए भने मैले के गुमाउछु ?. अलिकति idea दिनु होला...येही GC को लागि कति दाई हरु यहाँ कत्रो struggle गरि राख्नु भा छ, कति वर्ष देखि नेपाल जानु भा छैन.. एस्तो देख्दा चै gc छोडेर मैले गल्ति चै गर्न लागेको त होइन जस्तो लाग्छ,

कृपया मलाई केहि राम्रो idea दिनु होला
 
Posted on 02-23-18 5:29 PM     [Snapshot: 50]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal ma aahilay chap chap doc haru bhai sakyo.. sabai experienced haru ko ma janchan... MD na garee ramro kaam paudaina... bru ya ramraree pre med padnay ani 5 barsa ma citizen bhayapachi baru Nepal gayara padnay .. testo garay kaso hola bhai? subha kamana cha
 
Posted on 02-23-18 5:49 PM     [Snapshot: 76]     Reply [Subscribe]
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why dont you go for Nursing ? since you came thru DV so no need to worry about any paper,its a good career.
 
Posted on 02-23-18 6:03 PM     [Snapshot: 68]     Reply [Subscribe]
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तिम्रो पड्ने इच्छा सक्ति को प्रसंशा गर्छु तर,
७०% ले कतै नि doctor पढ्न पयिदैन भाई( unless china, khasa), usa मा doctor पढ्न cutoff नै ८२% माथि हुन्छ तसैले तिमि ले यहाँ पढ्ने हो भने second choice course ma पर्छ जस्तै public health, computer science, environmental science, wa accounting etc..तर तिमि ले भने जस्तै यो सब मा पैसा खेर फाल्नु मुर्खता हो, तिमि लाई छिटो यो बुद्धि आएछ, तिम्रो दाई नि यहाँ accounting गरेर ऐले धोति को बाट automation मा घण्टा हान्दै छ.

तिमि जहाँ छौ ति ठिक छौ
तिम्लाई कसले भन्यो gas स्टेशन मा काम गरेर सानो हुन्छ भनेर?? तिम्रो दाई ले ५ वर्ष gas स्टेशन मा घण्टा हान्यो र im proud of it..after working 5 long years in IT im returning back to same job but this time  as a owner.

im have struggled 10 years to get in whereever u r now n im still doing it..if u have come here as a student then only u would realize what GC really mean, if not ask any student around u

हो यहाँ doctor ले अरु पेस भन्दा एकदम धेरै कमौछ तर they are not boss they have to work for others, the worst part of life is working for others n make them rich n the best part is working for your self, seeing yourself grow ma make other work for you..

भखर १८ वर्ष को रैछौ gas station को operation सिक, पैसा जम्मा गर क्रेडिट बनौ अनि आफ्नै स्टेशन खोल ..be an entrepreneur भाई not an employee. US is very easy country..१ बाट २. २ बाट ४ हुन यहाँ केहि बेर लाग्दैन..wherever u go being an employee n working for others sucks a big time.

best of luck
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Posted on 02-23-18 6:07 PM     [Snapshot: 104]     Reply [Subscribe]
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n if u want a decent career not be a gas station owner then try nursing..2 year degree can get u upto 70 K a year..ani yo bich me u will meet so many dalals asking that u have GC u will easily land job in IT, dnt ever listen to them..natra after 10 years u will mostlikely be in same position..searching for projects like a pendulum n lastly returning to gasstation job ... mark my points
 
Posted on 02-23-18 6:14 PM     [Snapshot: 132]     Reply [Subscribe]
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sarai mitho satik jawaf deyo yar boro lay
 
Posted on 02-24-18 1:19 AM     [Snapshot: 437]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bhai,
70% in plus 2 not much high score it does not mean i am trying to discourage you...
You have GC and still teenager , you will qualify for financial aid
Go college, focus get A+ on basic science/math
3/4 years you will have a degree
Then you will have a platform can run business or further professional study (doctor/lawer whaterver) or can do IT...
short route , If you really enjoy in medical field go back nepal and study in private college(if you have enough money) keep coming once a year so gc does not expire
After MBBS you can try for residency
To become medical practitioner in usa is not that easy too, long process and no work life balance too
Do not depress /confuse stay focus on exactly what you like ? do not bump around gas station, grocery store ..
Good Luck



 
Posted on 02-24-18 1:56 AM     [Snapshot: 459]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Make lots of money and start your own business. Fuvk degree or school, you can educate yourself at home. School is worthless nowadays.
 
Posted on 02-24-18 10:18 AM     [Snapshot: 609]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Only about 55% of international medical graduates ever match into a residency spot in US. Historically, the percent is even lower for Nepali med school graduates. Above percent is inflated by graduates from Australia, Ireland, Israel, and some medical diploma mills in carribean that cater to North American premeds. So DOMT GO OUT OF USA IF YOU WANT TO PRACTICE HERE. sure you’ll hear success stories of foreign grads but they’re the moniroity and not majority of cases. 

So, have patience, go get a four year degree. Start studying for MCAT in your sophomore year. Make good grades ( 3.5 gpa is almost too low for MD), volunteer in underserved areas, get involved in extra curriculars and get clinical experience ( working as EMT, CNA, OR SCRIBE and shadow physicians and build enough relationship to get you a letter of recommendation).

Have it all ready (and about 5k for application season) in the summer before your last year in undergrad. Then apply and don’t fck up in interview, you’ll get in! Don’t worry about the loans, we are Nepali so just use that 70%+ brain in real like with common sense. Live like a student one more year after residency and the loans will be paid off!

Make sure you grab your citizenship when eligible and don’t get into any legal or academic trouble. For medical school application in us, plagiarism is worse then DUI. So, Nepal ko jasto homework sarne chahi chaldaina ni!

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Posted on 02-24-18 11:12 AM     [Snapshot: 651]     Reply [Subscribe]
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भाई, सबभन्दा पहिला त म तिम्रो पढाई प्रतिको दृढनिश्चयताको प्रशंसा गर्छु| (माफ गर, म चिकित्सातर्फको होइन त्यसैले व्याहारिक सल्लाह दिन सक्दिन, खाली सैदान्तिक हिसाबले भन्दैछु)

जीवनको अन्तिम लक्ष भनेको खुसि प्राप्ति हो जस्तो लाग्छ| अनि त्यो खुसि पाउने हरेक बाटाहरु छन् र अक्सर सबैको लागि फरक फरक छन्| यदी तिम्रो passion medical degree मा छ भने, I think you really should pursue it.
कतिपयले यहाँ भने जस्तो ग्यास स्टेशन खोल अथवा जसरी हुन्छ पैसा कमाऊ भन्ने कुरा उनीहरुको सवालमा सही होला तर तिम्रो भित्री दिल अन्तै छ भने त्यस्तो कुरा नसून| (चित्त नदुखाउनु मित्रहरु, कतिपयले चै आफुले चाहेको कुरा नपाउदाको बितृष्णा बोले जस्तो लाग्यो)

मैले सरसर्ती माथिका उत्तरहरु पढें, abhishpta को सल्लाह निकै प्राक्टिकल जस्तो लाग्यो| अनि नेपालमा पढेर आउंदा यहाँ स्थापित हुने low probability भए पनि म सक्छु जस्तो लाग्छ भने submark को पनि सल्लाह नराम्रो छैन जस्तो लाग्छ|

Good luck भाई)
 
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तर भाई मैले नि येसो बूजेको usa तिमि business नगर्ने भए चै doctor नै बन यार china तिर गएर भए नि अनि पछि यता try मार्नु... doctor को पैसा चै यहाँ डोको मै आउने रैछ, नत्र हद से हद तिमि ले नि AQ /BA जस्तो गुए कम गरेर बस्नु पर्छ..chase ur dream good luk
 
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mailabako_choro - i really like what you've started thinking about. go chase your dream brother, if that dream means so much to you, don't give up so easily. i can give you a snapshot of what it takes to be a doctor in the US. but realize upfront, it is a nine year process you are staring at if all goes well. else it will be a lifetime of regret and likely remorse for not passing the USMLE or some such barrier - there are just too many hurdles to clear.

first and foremost, do some research on requirements. look up online and find out what it takes to get to a medical college. you can start here. that site provides a high level idea of the admission scenario for 2016-17 in general. Here are the steps you will need to take according to this source:

  1. Complete Grade 12  / High School diploma / GED — exceptional academic results set the tone for the future!
  2. You MUST finish a 4-year college or university degree, complying with medical school premed requirements
  3. In your final year at college/university, you will have to do the MCAT test (Medical School Admission test)
  4. Apply to medical school. I would suggest that you make use of ‘AMCAS’.
i might add the fifth one to the list: get ready to shell out lot of money for tuition etc.

as you work odd jobs, you should find time to get to a community college (yes, you don't need fancy A-list colleges to excel - if you can get into an A-list college, it's great, but not required) and focus on biology, chemistry/biochemistry and maths. you should also really scale up your grasp of the english language. read good books (proper literature) like there's no tomorrow. this is true for any discipline, not just for an aspiring medical student. but you will need this more than anything. lot of nepali sajha friends know good community colleges (please readers, if you know one lets suggest him one) and you can then dig into college/studies. tell your bio instructor what you wish to do next. they will also most likely help.

having studied in south asia and and in the US, i can tell you that the rigor required to secure a 70% score in a high school in nepal is quite substantial. if the internet hasn't distracted you, you can get around 3.5 GPA with that much of input here - at least i did. hang out with studious gorey friends and learn their way of studying. it is different but effective, especial their use of logic in answering multiple choice questions that will be the bane of your life during MCAT and USMLE. you will need to scale up your study efforts too, to ensure you get a good GPA. volunteer in hospitals, do some community work and so on. all of these things will help your application become better by a tiny margin. add several of these 'margins' and your application will get attention in some colleges. this is important in order to get admission.

don't waste time trying to pass MCAT on your own, without getting into some kind of coaching institute - it is too damn difficult they say. although that test will filter men from the boys, the coaches do know their shit and they aren't kidding, unlike those lame tutors in putali sadak in ktm. they will charge you an arm and a leg, but trust me brother, it will save you time and resources.

you are young, and you are in the right place. take that opportunity. don't let negative comments from jilted lovers and folks with unfulfilled dreams affect you. surround yourself with good/positive friends and dig deep into studies with a strategy. play smart, not just be a rattu. you will make it bro.

hope that gets you thinking about it. am no doctor but know folks who are into that here. any questions - just ask.

best wishes.


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Posted on 02-24-18 11:44 PM     [Snapshot: 1094]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is my advice to you (I have medical background, educated and worked at hospitals here, and tried to become a MD myself, but couldn't do it because I was on student visa and that's the biggest and major hurdle. I am 34 and still really determined to pursue MD). Here is what you need to do stepwise:
1. Maintain your GC at any cost.
2. Find out whether or not your are passionate about medicine (i.e. alturistic feeling. Medicine is all about helping others). You can find your passion to medicine by doing volunteer work at free clinics, hospitals, homeless shelter, refugee centers etc. (use google to find them). Do this before you take any steps toward medicine.
3. If your Major reason to become a doctor is salary and respect, choose something else such as being a business owner or MBA etc.
4. Doing MBBS/MD outside US, and then coming back to practice medicine in US have severe disadvantages. Search Student Doctor Network (sdn) on google and do you research/homework there (hint: google IMG SDN/FMG SDN. I am just giving you head start, and at the same time trying not to spoon feed you).
5. After doing 1-4, If you still decide to become a doctor then use SDN as a tool to find what kind of grade/gpa you need. SDN should be one of your friend in your journey to become a doctor.

Note: 1) Forget how good/bad your 12 th grade is. What really matters is how well you do on your bachelor now on-wards. B
2) Not all doctors are employed by hospitals. Many doctor work for themselves. In simple terms, they go to hospitals they have contract with, see patients, and send bills to patients for their service i.e. patients gets 2 bills, 1 from doctor and 1 hospital.
3) Be humble/polite.

- A fellow MD aspirant


 
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GC raicha , army join garnu bhai. 3 barsa boot bajarnu. yeta bata doctor padne mauka paincha
 
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All newcomers face the same problem when they get here in the States. They do not quite comprehend what they are capable of doing things in here. Good thing is that they always seek some potential solution to move forward in their lives. Think about just getting a visa what kind of things you already got and achieved. Let me remind you what you got and what you did not have back in Nepal. One of the important things you have now is you are capable of making your destiny on your own rather than relying on your parents. A gas station is a medium where you'd pay your bills and keep dreaming here. And this is the only dream that motivates you every day. So don't get frustrated with this job.

I think you are struggling with what you want to be in your future. That's why you are not sure whether to become a software consultant or to become a doctor or what else to follow. My recommendation for you is to do a research and learn something at the high level before you commit to pursuing the degree. After you do enough research, then you won't be worried about how much money you will spend on getting a doctor's degree. All you want at this moment is to become a doctor instead of worrying about the money. If the profession gives you 200-300K, why mind spending 400K, it's worth investment, don't you think?  And yes, I am more biased in US degree than in Nepal's.

Good Luck!



 


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