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 Tear Bomb: Hillary Clinton Cries Again

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Posted on 02-04-08 1:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hillary sheds a tear (or two) again.

Obama is catching up on the polls but may not have enough time to win.

Hillary Clinton cries in Connecticut

by Jason George

NEW HAVEN, Conn. – Sen. Hillary Clinton teared up this morning at an event at the Yale Child Study Center, where she worked while in law school in the early 1970s.

Penn Rhodeen, who was introducing Clinton, began to choke up, leading Clinton's eyes to fill with tears, which she wiped out of her left eye. At the time, Rhodeen was saying how proud he was that the sheepskin-coat, bell-bottom-wearing young woman he met in 1972 was now running for president.

"Well, I said I would not tear up; already we're not exactly on the path," Clinton said with emotion after the introduction.

Clinton is holding a roundtable discussion with Connecticut women to talk about childcare and healthcare.

When Clinton got misty-eyed at an event in New Hampshire on Jan. 7, politicos and pundits filled hours discussing if it helped her, and Clinton eventually pointed to the moment as when she "found her voice" and turned the corner in the Granite State.

At the time, there was much debate if the candidate's emotional response to a question -- "How do you do it?"" -- was genuine or calculated.

Let the conversation begin again...



 
Posted on 02-05-08 2:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The board of elections failed to deliver voting equipment to polling places ALL OVER LOS ANGELES... Developing...

Developing story on drudgereport.com (whether you like the guy or not)



 
Posted on 02-05-08 2:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Posted on 02-05-08 4:18 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Oprah fixes voting glitch  - he he :)

Glitches front runner in CA

Zogby has Obama and Romney up by shocking numbers in CA but Zogby's poll on election day 04 showed Kerry beating Bush  so I wont read much into it at this time.

Too close to call as they say


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Posted on 02-05-08 4:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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CH,

Even that won’t do Romney any good.

 

In California, the republican primary means, winner-take-all by Congressional Districts. There are 53 Congressional Districts. Whoever wins a District, wins three delegates. It is not based on population. Winning a district with 150,000 population is no different than winning the one with 50,000 population. There is a good chance, even if Romney wins by 7%, he may not take home more than 100 out of 170 California delegates.

 

Republican race is over. It has been over since Florida primary. Even Eli Manning won't be able to save Romney (I recall you telling me, you lived in Boston once, so I am just pulling your leg).  


 
Posted on 02-05-08 5:49 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sum Off

Very true - as the joke goes you can take 3 Republicans out to dinner in a place like Berkley (where there are only 3 republicans) and win all three delegates and win 30,000 votes in LA and get zero delegates.

As for Manning, yeah, yeah, rub it in. Hey, 18-1 is still not a bad record I tell you  - too bad they don't have proportional  rules in  football like in the primaries  
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Posted on 02-05-08 5:56 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Exit poll results :

http://www.drudgereport.com/

(as with all things Matt Drudge read at your own risk)



 
Posted on 02-06-08 1:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bring out the Kleenex; methinks, Hillary is going to be bawling all the way to the convention!!--never more will I underestimate the power of the Hallmark Channel; one asinine appearance on that and she got 50% of the women vote!

Not to disparage the good people of Western Samoa, but when Billary needs to make the point that she won in Western Samoa, you know the campaign is in far more trouble than she anticipated :-)

Barack leads in the delegate count and having won a larger number of states, can now refrain from getting pulled into the race baiting tactics that Bill employed. One key victory for him was Alabama; the Clinton camp had surrogates on the ground that included people like Andrew Young, a man who worked alongside Dr. Martin Luther King - yet Barack won; Massachusettes was a huge dissappointment- with Kerry, Ted and Duvall Patrick all working for Obama in addition to the youth vote there, I had hoped he would carry the state handily; nevertheless, he closed in on her 30% lead in the last week....the longer he stays in the race, the more likely he will win.....Obama! Obama! Obama-rama !!!


 
Posted on 02-06-08 2:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Obama might loose like Al Gore-won the popular vote but lost the presidency. Clinton is strong and we've lots of time to go. Anything can happen. Obama's time of clean shaven, fresh guy is over. From here on, it's all scrutiny and down low dirty politics.
The only magic he's got is-anything Hillary says, he'll dodge it by saying "Oh! It's becaues I'm BLACK". The same stereotypical African American's defense mechanism.
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Posted on 02-06-08 3:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"This is a day they clearly thought they could put a punctuation mark on this, and they're NOT going to do it." -- David Plouffe (Manager for Obama Campaign) on Super Tuesday's result.

It's a tough call yet but the momentum is certainly on Obama's favor. As I said in some other thread, he's not just popular among young voters, blacks and in cities, but he's slowly but surely gaining momentum in rural counties and some of the whitest states imaginable. His popularity has gone past the boundaries of race, cast, gender, color, age and religion. His win in Caucuses of Utah, Minnesota, Idaho, North Dakota and Kansas is an indication of the same. IMO, from here on, only a stupid mistake would let him down and I don't see it coming from the young, energetic and vibrant Illinois senator who has vowed, time and again, to bring us the change we've been craving for. I know it's just a speech and that's what politicians make but if I have to trust somebody on speeches, I will trust my man Obama. I wish if he could do better among Latino and Asian American Voters though and I hope it's just the California. Fingers crossed on that.

Within one remarkable month, he erased Clinton's double-digit lead in national polls, raised more than twice as much money ($32 million to $13.5 million of Clinton). I believe, Obama will have the time and money to march his formidable team into the next battlegrounds: Louisiana, Nebraska (recent endorsement from the Governor of Omaha, Mike Fahey is encouraging already) and Washington State. He is well positioned in Maine, Virgina and Maryland as well.

"We are the hope for the future,the answer to the cynics who tell us our house must stand divided... It's a choice between having a debate with the other party about who has the most experience in Washington or about who can change Washington, because that's a debate that we can win." -- Obama

GO OBAMA!

(PS. I ain't sexist so my heartfelt sympathy for Hillary and her avid fans/followers )




 
Posted on 02-06-08 3:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I'll summarize the Loote's point.
Obama is a solid Veep candidate. Join our group "Obama for Veep".Chairperson:Loote
 
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Posted on 02-06-08 3:44 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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HAHAHAHA...you wish MAV . it's gonna be obama/clinton '08 and not the other way round to be really honest . but i know it's too early to count the chickens. so we're gonna leave it there for now.

btw, why do i feel like i am listening to my my great-grandpa's spirit everytime i see McCain on TV? or is it just me? HAHAHA...too lovable but a tad bit too old for the change Obama's campaign is marching forward to. somebody give him a wheelchair please! hahaha....oh well, only if my great grandma was as HOT as Cindy . Man, some old farts are really lucky, i can tell you
 
Posted on 02-06-08 4:06 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Obama seems like aa eloquent John Kerry to me. or may be second avatar. But Same old rhetoric..

Before: I have a plan
Now: We need change

When Rush Limabaugh, Billo, Laura Ingraham start ripping him off!!

Before:I have a plan to make a plan
Now:Yo' brother you got me to shine some bling bling in whitehouse. That's a change dawg OR
I need to change myself for the change AND YES I CAN

After losing elction:

Before:That's unfair, I would have asked Karl Rove for the plan.
After: My Teddy bear of MA is such an old horse that he would sure help to change the
establishment in Washington, which, his family has helped to established.

 



 
Posted on 02-06-08 4:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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the only concern for Obama is that Hillary is enjoying a clear and real advantage among superdelegates, among party officials and elected officials. if she manages to come to a break even or close to it in the next round of primaries and can maintain the same in Ohio and Pennsylvania next month, oh well, Obama's gonna face a tough time. I hope it doesn't happen.

Mav,
i don't see any parallels between kerry and obama, not at least as of now. kerry had had tough time due to his own weak plans and the tag of 'flip-flopper' which the bush campaign and oppositions managed to put under his name and which he was not able to come against with a better strategical show. obama is relatively inexperienced but that's in a way is a bliss if you see that the so-called experienced campaigners with the likes of cheney and rove and bush could not lead US to any better (worse to worst so to speak). the greatest challenge, as i see for obama, is to win the primary. once he manages to pull off the nomination, the whole democratic party (including Clintons) and majority of independents and minority will come in close terms with him making the life of the republican difficult in the national election. i don't have a shred of doubt on that, personally speaking.
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Posted on 02-06-08 4:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hillary won the hipanics votes in california by 2/1 ratio but its kinda surprising when we compare the cali result with that in arizona and new mexico where the ratio was much more balanced. new mexico despite having highest proportion of hispanic voters in the country the result was almost a tie. didn't those hispanic folks vote for her in those states? and the only other remaining primary with a high hispanic population is in texas where i don't think hillary will get 2/1 ratio of hispanic community especially since it is a republican state. talking about the other states that have yet to vote...she still has long way to go before getting nomination given the momentum obama has gained lately and the money advantage he has established. instead it's been reported that hillary loaned her campaign $5 million. many republicans (even the moderates) view hillary extremely negatively however obama appeals strongly to independent voters and even to some republicans. also bill clinton's negative impact on the black community will probably hurt hillary a lot in ohio and pennsylvania too. 
 
Posted on 02-06-08 6:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Loote: Oh there is certainly smthing parallel the way they talk. You are right when u said Kerry didnt have any plan. But I wonder what would Obama say if asked how would he gonna "change". So its sheer platitude and I am pretty sure conservative would exploit everything about him: madrassa school to cocain antics to use of word brother. I personally dont think freshman in senate should be President anyway. If  as you said, no-experiece is bliss to run for president then I guess u dont also have experience in politics;why dont u give a shot
 
Posted on 02-06-08 6:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mav,
hahaha....I am already excited about my prospect as a minority male for politics in the US.
If Obama manages to win the candidacy and from thereon the presidency, it will only mean people like you and I can give a shot at it, if we feel the urge LOL!

I know the conservatives will try all the tricks in the trade to harrass the young sentaor in the presidential debate(if he wins the candidacy that is) but I am sure he will have all his homework done by then and since we all witnessed how they amassed and attacked poor Kerry, it must have come to Obama as a learning experience from the observation of his peer getting bashed LOL!

 I hope Obama has or will have better plans for coming up against doubts on his youth and inexperience or against any other sorts of  negative feel against his plans and policies.
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Geico,
The overwhelming support of Hispanics and Latinos for Clinton in California had me in thinking mode for quite a while. Obama's policy on illegal immigrants (which are mostly hispanics) sounds liberal and more lucrative for them than the rather strict-er or dare I say more of a conservative type take of Clinton on the same issue. But why was Obama not able to garner much support from them?

It could well be due to the fact that Obama is emphasizing too much on 'unity' and 'change' and not  really going through individual race to address their own major/serious issues -- one thing that he and his campaign should give a serious thought on before the next round of primaries.  On the other hand, it's important to understand the hispanic culture, their family structure and values to understand their sentiments and hence their take on this democratic presidential candidacy or their impact on the November's general election for that matter.

As a voting block, in general, Hispanics are faith and family-based. They have conservative to moderate values and they are concerned with economic conditions that affect income; therefore, neither republicans nor democratics can put the Hispanic vote in their respective banks as a safe bet. This is more or less true with Asian  American voters as well.
The Latin American history is quite complicated: they strongly believe in paternal/maternal figures--in this case it would mean the Clintons. Too much of change is not in their comfort zone and hence the bottom-up working message from Obama doesn't appeal to most of them. However, this would apply mostly to older generations. Besides, women, by their nature, tend to protect each other and there is a strong sense of fraternity of women in Hispanic culture because of the oppression they have been going through in the patriarchal society. So I would think, middle-aged and older Hispanics and Hispanic women will be, for the most part, for Clinton. Their support for her only accentuates because of the Clinton administration's record with Hispanics since they already have a history together (during Bill's occupancy of the Oval Office) and it's is not risk based as it is with the newly bred Obama.  However, younger generations raised in the USA and the ones who have been able to get higher education have reacted and will react differently.

Just my 2 cents and please feel free to disagree.


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Posted on 02-06-08 7:57 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Loote:Oh ya! he is a great Veep candidate.

Talking about the Hispanic votes.

Its a great example of minority clash. Minorities never get united though they ( or we) always complain regarding the racism and minority bias. This is a sad story; btw, true in every part of the world.

 
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Micheal Moore: "I Am Morally Prohibited From Voting For Hillary"

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Posted on 02-07-08 12:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Seems like there is no stopping for this man. 7M dollars fundraising in less than two days (and add to that the momentum he'd gained over the last week and especially after Super Tuesday) is great going. If this still does not soak Clintons' undies then what will? hahaha

If I may help? :




Obama Raises $7M Post Super Tuesday

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Democratic Sen. Barack Obama has raised $7.2 million for his presidential campaign since the first polls closed on Super Tuesday night, his campaign said Thursday, a remarkable figure that is causing concern among supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Meanwhile Thursday, the Clinton campaign asked Obama to debate once a week, but he demurred.

Obama, riding a wave of fundraising from large donors and small Internet contributors, also raised $32 million in January.

Clinton acknowledged Wednesday that she loaned her campaign $5 million late last month as Obama was outraising and outspending her heading into Feb. 5 Super Tuesday contests. Some senior staffers on her campaign also are voluntarily forgoing paychecks as the campaign heads into the next round of contests.

While not matching Obama's pace, Clinton also saw an online surge of donations — raising $4 million from 35,000 new contributors since midnight Super Tuesday, Clinton campaign aides said.

Obama and Clinton outpaced all candidates in 2007, with each raising $100 million.

The Obama campaign said on its Web site that $7.2 million has been received since Tuesday evening. Campaign spokesmen said they were confident the figure was accurate.

Buoyed by strong fundraising and a primary calendar in February that plays to his strengths, Obama plans a campaign blitz through a series of states holding contests this weekend and will compete to win primaries in the Mid-Atlantic next week and Hawaii and Wisconsin the following week.

He campaigned in Louisiana Thursday. The state holds its contest Saturday.

Clinton, with less money to spend and less confident of her prospects in the February contests, will instead concentrate on Ohio and Texas, large states with primaries March 4 and where polling shows her with a significant lead. She even is looking ahead to Pennsylvania's primary April 22, believing a large elderly population there will favor the former first lady.

In a sign of Clinton's increasing concern about Obama's growing strength, her campaign manager, Patti Solis, sent a letter Thursday to the Obama campaign seeking five debates between the two candidates before March 4.

"I'm sure we can find a suitable place to meet on the campaign trail," Solis wrote. "There's too much at stake and the issues facing the country are too grave to deny voters the opportunity to see the candidates up close."

Obama rejected a debate proposed as soon as this Sunday to be broadcast on ABC, but his campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Thursday, "there will definitely be more debates, we just haven't set a schedule yet."


Source:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD8ULJA380

 
 
Posted on 02-07-08 12:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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How come a person who raises the most money, has the highest number of big endorsement, how can he talk about "CHANGE". How can you believe it will be a CHANGE. It's as usual politics of lavish campaign fund raising, which has been criticized in the past. It's just a matter of time when someone will come to check the sources of those funds. At least Mitt Romney is using his won money, isn't that more respectable?
It's so deceptive that he's using the word "Change" when he's doing nothing but the same old thing. People are buying like it's a candy.

 



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