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Posted on 12-27-06 3:52 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here are the facts about London that i have found duriing my 2 weeks visit of London. This is what i have seen and told by other Nepali Sathi haru

1) In London, there are more curry house than British food " FISH & CHIPS" shop.

2) Almost all Nepalese student and colleges( cheaper) has cheated Brirish immigration rules. There are hundreds of so called college run by foreigner And now couple of them run by Fellow Nepalese. Here is the trick..... go to college once a week.... most go to college once a year... Pay tution fee around British pound 1000- 1500 per year....... with recomendation of college, you can get visa stamp easily. it is funny that some of college are located on top floor of curry house. so, change your Dress and go to class room. This college are so poorly equiped that some of them are without class room and even enough( only 2-3 for 100 neapleese student) computer. Just like training centre in putali sadak.

3) If you lost anywhere in London, just go to any Curry House and ask for Nepalese Kancha... No problem. Best public transportaion service ever avilable, i am impressed. London Underground, British rail and buses.

4) Some part( 70%) of LONDON reminds me of OLD DELHI.

5) Many of Nepaleese are residing through Refugee status.

6) Many Nepaleese student are living in the curry house, some time 6-7 ( Bangali, Nepali and pakistani) in one room.

7) You can get best Indian food with reasonable price, taste is better than food from india.

8) lots of organized Nepalesse get to gether with unavoidable drunk and fight.

9) Better chance to learn about Islam than in any Arab states. Many old churches are converted to " MOSQUE". I met one Nepali couple( Bahun) whome just became Muslim.

10) No prospective, no future. You are foreigher and always will be foreigner.
 
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Californication <<< If you lost anywhere in London, just go to any Curry House and ask for Nepalese Kancha... No problem. Best public transportaion service ever avilable, i am impressed. London Underground, British rail and buses >>>>>

is that u refering nepali kancha as trasport ehehe keeping those two is same catagory lol

<<>> what do u expect in forien country huh
 
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HAHAHAHA INTERESTING Californication DUDE.
I AGREE THAT INFLUX OF IMMIGRANTS ESPECIALLY FROM ARAB,SOUTH ASIA INCLUDING NEPAL IS ON THE RISE IN UK.
I HAD SEEN ON NEWS THAT UK STREET IS BECOMING MORE OF LAHORE STREETS.
AND ALSO FEATURED ON TRAVEL CHANNEL RECENTLY ABOUT UK I NOTICED SO MANY INDIAN AND PAKISTANI RESTAURANTS IN LONDON.
ALSO I DON'T KNOW HOW BRITISH CAN TOLERATES SO MANY PAKIS,BENGALIS AND OTHER ARABS IMMIGRANT WHO ARE ALL ISLAMIC.
JUST WAIT AND SEE IN FEW YEARS TIME UK WILL BE RENAMED ISLAMIC REBUBLIC OF UK OR UKISTAN.
ABOUT THE COLLEGE IN UK I AGREED THAT IT IS EASIER TO GRAUDATE FROM UK THAN IN USA.
IN FACT YOU GRADUATE IN 2 YEARS IF YOU HAVE DIPLOMA OR OTHER ADVANCED STANDINGS CERTIFICATE FROM MANY COUNTRIES UNLIKE IN USA THERE'S NO ROUTE TO SHORT CUT FOR UNDERGRADUATE.
MINUMUM TIME TO GRADUATE FROM US COLLEEGS WITH UNDERGRADUATES IS 4 YEARS CAUSE US EDUCATON DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN SHIT ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES PAPER.
THIS IS TO MAINTAIN VERY HIGH LEVEL OF EDUCATION STANDARDS.
 
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How can you say learning 4 years rather than 3 years gives you better quality of education. Here is what most of brits do. They complete undergraduate in 3 years and go for either placement or internship for few months , most of them in very good company. Which i feel is much more better than study 4 years. If you talk about shitty colleges, US is full of those as well. Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally. If you look at the system of education, british education is very extensive and extremly job oriented.

Secondly, when you say it is mandatory for anybody to have 4 years of undergrad study seems to be extremely flawed because i can remember almost 15-16 american student studying in my university. They even had american student society. Some already have job for a graduate in america.
 
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californication is only right about nepalese student. Apart from that i can safely say he doesnot know about 90% of london. London is unofficial business capital of the world. There are many british resurant than an indian or neplese. Californication you derogatory remarks to nepalese, indian is very condemable. If anybody changes to muslim what is your problem. I travelled to few countries but london alone stands out for me as a city, much more different than any other countries in the world. My american friend still sees london with awe . If you see london is made of almost 50 percent of immigrants. A testimony to the fact that how welcoming it is to people from many countries. Even when you see white people most of the times they turns out to be european.
Nothing in the world is good or bad or completely white or black . there will always be a grey area. but your views are extremely flawed. If you just visit a poor college and make a judgement neplese studies only there then that is your lack of judgement. Try visiting good universities. You will find number of nepalese student there. Next time you come to london please give me a call i will prove you wrong in many account.
 
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raidilip sounds like someone who miserably failed in the UK and now trying his luck in the US or possibly is very envious of a relative or a friend in London who's doing significantly better than him....you loser

and the 'californicated' idiot, instead of being sympathetic to fellow Nepalese who are going through hardship and trying their best in a foreign land, is making fun of them. While trying to humiliate others, he however hasn't realised what he's revealing about himself. When you were in London, your friends fed you, took you around and looked after you....how can you now go so low and take pleasure in making fun of your own friends?
 
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One more,


UK Dream For Higher Education (Facts And Fictions) [ 2006-6-2 ]

By C. D. Bhatta
England has been the centre of knowledge in modern times and has
dominated 'international knowledge repository' for long. The Oxford,
Cambridge, the powerhouses of the scientific inventions are the oldest
standing universities in the world. There was a time when half of the
Head of States or the Governments of the Commonwealth Countries were the
product of British Universities. Even North American Universities, like
Harvard University, were established by scholars who studied in England.
The Oxbridge are still ahead in the world university ranking but British
Universities certainly have been overshadowed by the North-American
Universities. Princeton University, whose ranking corresponds with the
London School of Economics, has the budget of entire British
Universities (excluding Oxford and Cambridge). Funding has become most
exhausting factor in UK higher education. The best thing of British
Education system, nevertheless, is the quality of internationally
acclaimed education and the hospitable British culture where one can
easily adjust. The most important of all is the academic genre that is
rarely available anywhere else. These are the reasons, among others, why
England still is the preferred destination for international students.

There are more than two hundred universities in Great Britain and they
have ranking systems based on their own performances and impact their
products make internationally. The best universities like IVY League in
the US are classified as 'Russell Group of Universities' famous for
academic excellences and provide some economic assistance as well. There
are twenty of them. If one can afford, it is highly recommended to
attend these Russell Group of elite Universities and have a niche of UK
education and varsity life, which surely would be lifetime experience.
London is particularly good to study finance and economics as the city
itself is the Centre for International Finance and full of international
investment and commercial banks with tremendous opportunities for career
growth.

However, all is not well. British Universities are awfully expensive (in
average sterling ponds 9000 per year tuition fees plus maintenance) and
extending visa has become notoriously expensive for students. For
example, if one has to extend student VISA she/he has to pay five
hundred sterling pounds. And financial aid is rarely available so is the
job opportunities to substantiate education. And life becomes hell
without enough resources.

London ? the most sought destination by the international students
because of its truly cosmopolitan nature; carries population of more
than its capacity. Those were the days, when there was no problem at all
with 'unskilled jobs' and one could make maintenance and even tuition
fees out of it but things have vastly changed. In addition to students,
there are many economic migrants of different colours like doctors,
engineers, accountants and coolies who have taken the job that the
students normally used to do during off time. The situation has further
deteriorated after the eastward extension of European Union as it has
helped to meet internal demand of unskilled labour within the Europe
with no need to look beyond unless newly wedded countries reach to the
economic status of their older counterparts. This has forced skilled
workers from Third World countries to land in the unskilled low paying
jobs. Today one can see South Asian doctors cleaning utensils in curry
houses (Indian Restaurants are known as curry houses in UK). Majority
students had never returned and overstayed. This has added extra burden
on already swelling population thereby resulting steep competition among
migrants for the limited type's of jobs. Migrants from Third World
countries do the same job such as ? restaurant business, off licenses or
corner shops, security guards, departmental stores, factories etc. This
has either erased or reduced chances of getting part-time jobs to
international students during off time.

The biggest worry however, is falling into the trap of private colleges
who operate under the guises of attractive pseudo name similar to that
of famous schools. Besides universities, there are many mushrooming
cheap colleges in London and around its periphery. Mostly (99%) operated
by migrants from South Asia; Africa, Turkey and Cyprus whose
owners/principals have little or no knowledge about education forget
about having had an opportunity to be acquainted with British education
system or its degrees. But don't get surprised if you see their line
long qualifications - whose full form cannot even be found in the Oxford
Dictionary. These colleges have glossy brochures with pictures of Tower
Bridge, Big Ben and the Westminster with courses ranging from BIS to MBA
augmented by facilities such as computers, library and personal tutor.
But it is not a surprise; when you see no standing building, forget
about other facilities. One could easily get baffled by seeing glorious
ads of these colleges in local newspapers here in Kathmandu and their
directors' giving interviews to reputed daily newspapers and electronic
media as against the distressing reality. There is a 'racket of ring'
that runs these dubious colleges which neither are recognized by the
government nor by the British Universities. The most frightening fact is
that they don't at all have qualified teachers and enough rooms to
cater. Another aspect is not even a single native student can be seen in
these colleges and British Home Office authorities are always running
after them because of their doubtful nature of business. I do not like
to point out name of colleges and spoil their business but I have a duty
to inform and warn aspiring students and their parents about the
situation of these private colleges. All these names that frequently
advertised in local newspapers by their local agents (the so called
education consultants) are not authentic and their situation is more
pathetic than our language institutes. Many Nepalis have also opened up
colleges and their owners/principals as others have never studied in the
British Universities. They work daytime in the college and run Curry
House in the evening the same goes with their 'lecturers'. In most
cases, one could see restaurant in the ground floor and college in the
first floor. The worst of all is their 'lecturers' can't speak correct
English.

You also see one or two kuires in these colleges but they are there just
to make an impression that they do have English Lecturer's /owners but
reality is something very unusual, these junkies normally spend time
drinking cheap beer in pubs and spend remaining of their time with
bookies. To be very straightforward these private colleges are spoiling
Britain's reputation on higher education and cheating international
students.

That said, this is in no way bad but this is bad if the one who has a
dying desire to have British degree happens to end up in these colleges.
One can imagine the quality of education they impart. If the intention
is different, these colleges are fine to vanish in London's serenity (if
one manages to get visa here) and end up in curry houses forever.
Because they are cheap, one can extend visa through them (as long as
both are not caught by the Home Office); can stay there forever; drink
beer (which is comparatively cheaper); watch football games in the world
famous football clubs and end up as Lahore; if lady luck shines, who
knows one might get PR (Permanent Residency) one day and become British,
if not English.

This is what I have seen and experienced during my stay in London. If
you are really going for education with zeal to have degree, don't fall
in the trap of these 'colleges'. Rather than running after newspaper ads
or local consultants do your proper research by directly getting in
touch with concerned institutes. There is no way that one could find
financial support once she/he lands up there. Prepare well in advance as
what exactly you want to do and how. Otherwise, International Education
System (IES) is another way of robbing off and cheating people in the
name of 'quality education'. If one can afford she/he should go for
university rather than colleges, whose authenticity is yet to be
established and are 'bogus' as per British authorities.

There are many ways to find out correct information, like British
Council, ex -students, university websites etc. Like in search of job in
the Gulf, today we have large number of young students traveling abroad
for higher education, but how many of them have really succeeded in
their goals, and how many of them have ended up in curry houses is a
subject of real curiosity for everyone.

(The author is currently a PhD fellow at London School of Economics,
London)
 
Posted on 12-27-06 9:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dont fight yaar, Bidesh ma yeso aayo bhandaima TA BASEKO DESH THULO KI MA BASEKO DESH bhandai kati jhagada garchhhau yaar, Ajha NEPAL bikasit bhayako bhaye NEPALI le aru bideshilai k ganthe holan yaar!!!

But i like this one, Hahah Bidhan bro, what an answer :-)
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Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally. Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally.

Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally. Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally.


Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally. Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally.


Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally. Only difference is that in UK most of the students enrol in those colleges to cheat, in US they dont have to because they could freely live illegally.
 
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Two weeks and you observed so much and had a great comment Cali..I wonder if you can go back to Nepal for couple of weeks and update us about our country as well. It would certainly entertain me if not everyone else who visit sajha.

I know for fact that UK is being run by 75% workforce holding Student Visa. Do your math aye! ;)

Godspeed!
 
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Being a Nepali student living in UK... I think I must put my words here.

I agree with almost all the comments from califor...
BUT

I donot agree any Nepali living 5-6 in a single room.. but they do live in a mass

Nepali student working in curry house have a good reason.... If u are working in curry house they provide free food n free accomodation, both of which are tooo expensive in UK... plus u do not neeed to pay any utility bills..... AND most of them work as waiter not as Kanchha

Not most of the Nepali residing in Uk are illegal or refugee

Colleges, not all but many business colleges are as described.... there are more thn 10 Nepali Colleges ... they provide both type of service.. I mean u can go n study too or u can just join n extend the visa

Now its all changing... the new generation of Nepali immigrant are diffrent to this... they look for better job... In the foreign country.. you cannot expect any good job... the people who gives us job are our South Asian Neighbours....either we like them or not...
 
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What a load of bull-shi*t you are talking about London. Infact it sounds like your 14 days visit to london, you have spent in a curry house, probably your mate must be working there and since London hotels are so expensive you spend all your time in the curry house, London is one of the best city in the world. Main Central London is no way like Delhi. There are some parts in london (Outer London) with lot of Indians, but city centre is where you will expereience a holiday of lifetime. I bet you didn't even go to Central London. Central London provides the best night life you can enjoy in the whole wide world. There is always a future in London, you graduate, job will be infront of you. You must have been to local take away place to have your curry thats ewhy you are sayning its cheap,But in any decent restaurant, one portion of curry costs between £8-£10 pounds, almost your $15 so you tell me is it cheap? Probably in $15 dollars you can buy a pair of Levi's in America, so you tell me what is cheap?
http://www.london-eating.co.uk/cuisines/indian.asp, check this link out and find for yourself the average cost of eating out excluding drink.

Now the fact about London Colleges. Any overseas studdent attending a college in UK, that college needs to be registered with BAC (BRITISH ACCREDITATION COUNCIL) for the extension of visa. Home office denies visa if the college is not registered with BAC. BAC does a regular check up with the college to maintain the higher standard of education, including number of rooms per student, facility in the premises and many more. So how the hell you are telling us that there are not enough class rooms. BAC will recommentd to the government to shut the college if the college is not per their standard.

At last see the proper fact about London from the link below. You should have done the study about London before travelling. Where to go? where to stay? where to eat? and what to do? All you have done is you had One kancha friend in curry house, flown to london and stayed with him (sharing his bed, or the floor). And finally went back.

http://www.lda.gov.uk/server/show/nav.001001007001
 
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is it like that in U.K. i heard somthing like that too
 
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I was in London, Manchester and Sheffield a few months back and found the England to be rather expensive. The prices for most items were like twice that of the US. Whatever you pay in dollars in the US, you basically pay the same amount in pounds there and the exchange rate was almost 2:1 .

London seemed to be a vibrant , pulsating place. It has old world charm as well as new world amenities. It is perhaps second only to NY as the most cosmopolitan city in the world. I also noticed that, in general, the Londoners were more fashion-conscious than NYers.

Public transportation is superb whether it be the tube, regular trains between cities or the bus.

The view from the London Eye was amazing.

Cheerio!
 
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Let's not forget Old Trafford, the home of Manchester United Football Club, a must-see place to visit when you are in England.

For kebab lovers, there is a take-out corner in Leicester Square right next to the south-eastern subway entrance where the kebab is out of this world.

Also, let me put this in as well since I know that most of our folks love doughnuts and hot chocolate. If you want to taste the best doughnuts and perfect hot chocolate, you need to make this trip. There is a tiny village on the south-western coast of Scotland called Largs which is two hours drive from Edinburgh. On the beach, there is a restaurant called Candellina run by an Italian family who moved there many years ago. Go there in the morning and when you bite a chocolate doughnut, it is soft in such a way that it just melts inside your mouth and you don't even have to chew or swallow. As for the hot chocolate, when you sip it, it flows into your body and gives you a tingling sensation that makes you feel as if this is it and you have to have another one. The rest, as they say, is history.
 
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I know nothing about London even after having lived in England for a good part of 10 years, and yet you could easily run up a London list with 10 staggering facts within a mere span of two weeks!! Well done you, Californication.

And given your impeccable travel expertise and in-depth knowledge of the place, those of us with 'no prospective [sic], no future', the poor curry-smelling students us with 'refugee status', could doubtless do with your expert advice on how we could go about raising our 'status' - higher than that of the 'Nepalese kanchha'! Incentives for you there perhaps - next time you take the trouble of visiting us!

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Dr Stangelove,
Thanks for your kind words - what a contrast eh! :-)
Yes, the place has become very expensive indeed - just about everything from food, clothes to everyday commodities. Forget about the mortgage bill, high premiums on your veh/home insurance policies etc.. They reckon England has become one of the most expensive countries to live in in the whole of Europe. I might as well pack my kit and head for the Gobi desert or somewhere - at least you don't then need to worry about the the council tax, national insurance contribution, the amazingly mahango monthly fuel/elec bills! :-)

Did you have time exploring the West End whilst in London? The threatres, art galleries and every thing else that it is famous for. I am sure, you did, and I am glad that your trip ended on a happy note, unlike this thread's originator's above.

Cheerio indeed! :-)

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globalnepali,
Largs?? whereabouts is that?? West coast ray? Towards Loch Lomond, ho?

Thanks for sharing.

Carpe diem
 
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whats the average earnings in UK?
 
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I mean Restaurant job. I wanna go there for summer job, if it pays better than here in USA.
 
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Having read British literature all my life, I could not have had European trip without visiting England. It was a short visit, but I managed to see a bit of London and Bath.

Stepping into Shakespeare's Globe theater was like being transported centuries ago and being in the midst of the plays that have mesmerized people for ages now. Looking down the bridge at the Thames river was like peering down the flow of time and into Dickens' writings of the bleak and grim reality of urban life.

Bath led me to Austen's home that had been transformed into a museum. Memories of being madly in love with Mr. D'arcy in my teens and wishing I were as witty as Elizabeth Bennett so that a real-life Mr. D'arcy would propose to me in the gallant (though rude) way that he does in Austen's novel, came flooding back to me.

My trip to England was truly a trip back in time . I hope I can go there for a longer time in the future.
 
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"when a man is tired of London, he is tired of life" By Samuel Johnson
 
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"“The man who can dominate a London dinner-table can dominate the world.”
Oscar Wild
 



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