Bob, The argument over what religion is better is a never ending argument and i would not side with any religion to prove one better over the next. I think you and i have both agreed on why we think Christianity is winning and its because of the owners and preachers of Christianity are just way too smarter than other religions. The leaders of Christianity are smart enough to change the religion per time, they manage their organization more effectively and they have more money to finance their agenda than any others. If these facts make you believe that Christianity is the best that is out there then that is your opinion and you are welcome to strongly stand beside your opinion.  I was only expressing my 2 cents on why Christianity is winning the conversion war. Sid

sidster · Jun 5, 2009 6:34 PM

agreed...take care

Bob Marley · Jun 5, 2009 7:02 PM

गाई काटेको निहुँमा झडप २३-जेठ-२०६६,शनिवार भैरहवा। रुपन्देहीको विष्णुपुरा गाविसमा करिब १५ दिन अगाडि एक मुसलमान परिवारले विवाहमा गाई काटेको विषयलाई लिएर प्रहरी र स्थानीय समूहबीच आज भएको झडपमा छ जना घाइते भएका छन्।  सो झडपपछि स्थानीय प्रशासनले त्यस क्षेत्रका विष्णुपुरा, एकला, जोगडा, रुद्रपुर, सूर्यपुरा र धमौली गाविसमा आज दिउँसो साढे दुई बजेदेखि अनिश्चित समयका लागि निषेधाज्ञा जारी गरेको छ। घटना विवरणअनुसार भैरहवादेखि करिब २२ किमी दक्षिणमा पर्ने विष्णुपुरा गाविसको गिदैया भन्ने गाउँमा १५ दिन अगाडि भगेलु निबाद मुसलमानले छोराको विवाहमा गाई काटेको आरोप लगाउँदै मधेसी जनअधिकार फोरम निकट राममिलन केवटले आवश्यक कारबाहीको माग गर्दै जिल्ला प्रहरी कार्यालय, रुपन्देहीमा उजुरी दिएका थिए। सो विषयमा प्रहरीले पटकपटक छलफल गराउँदा पनि सहमति हुनसकेको थिएन। मुसलमानले आफूले गाई नकाटेको दावी गर्दै आएका थिए भने केवट पक्षले भने काटेको दावी गर्दै आएका थिए। तर प्रहरीले गाई काटेको कुनै प्रमाण फेला नपरेकाले कारबाही गर्न कठिन भएको जनाएको थियो। समस्या समाधानका लागि प्रहरीले फोरमका जिल्ला स्तरीय नेताको उपस्थितिमा आज छलफल गराएको थियो। तर छलफलमा मुसलमान उपस्थित नभएकाले केवट पक्षको समूहले मुसलमानको घर घेराउ गरी तोडफोड गर्न थालेपछि प्रहरी र स्थानीय समूहबीच दिउँसो एक बजेदेखि झडप सुरु भएको जिल्ला प्रहरी कार्यालय, रुपन्देहीका प्रहरी नायब उपरीक्षक खिनुप्रसाद आचार्यले बताउनुभयो। उहाँका अनुसार स्थितिलाई नियन्त्रणमा लिन प्रहरीले १६ राउन्ड हवाई फायर गरेको छ भने प्रहरीतर्फ छ जना घाइते भएका छन्।

naivelyStupid · Jun 6, 2009 6:36 AM

As a now (June 7, 2009 @ 10:15pm CDT), 47% do not have any issues with the expansion. 43% would like to reverse the expansion by peaceful means. People wanting to reverse expansion using violence or wanting Hindus to start converting non Hindus is negligible. As for the people wanting to reverse using non violents methods, I only see the following 1 method so far proposed by JPEG. 1) Re-educate people with true Hinduism (Pre-vedic). Pre-vedic system did not have class system other negative aspects of Hinduism that people are running away from and into the arms of Christianty. Those of you who voted for non violent methods, do you have any more methods?

Power_Ranger · Jun 7, 2009 10:37 PM

Sheetalb, I have a question for you, WHY IS IT OK FOR BORN AGAINS TO GO SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST TO THE WORLD AND IS NOT OK FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD TO COME SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS OF MOHAMMED, BUDDHA, YAHWEH OR GANESH IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOODS ?  THAT JUST SHOWS HOW HYPOCRITAL YOU AND YOUR BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ARE. And Sidster, Your comment on how there is no need to convert shows how ignorant of a baffoon you are.  If I want to convert who the fug are you to come and tell me not to ?  If I am not happy with my current religion it is MY choice to convert and not YOURS or the SOCIETY's AUTHORITY to DICKTATE me.  Power Ranger, Re-eduating has nothing to do with this.  IF I AM NOT HAPPY WITH MY CURRENT RELIGION REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY A TIMES YOU RE-EDUCATE WIL NOT SWAY MY MIND.

BathroomCoffee · Jun 8, 2009 9:00 AM

BathroomCoffee, If we do nothing against this expansion, Hinduism in Nepal will become a minority religion soon. A lot of people are not looking forward to see that happen and want to do something about it by peaceful means. One of the peaceful means is to re-educate the people of Nepal to true Hinduism. True Hinduism is core Hinduism minus all the funny stuffs like caste, untouchables, superstitions, etc. Re-education rather than doing nothing should slow this expansion. If it does not then we need to come up with something that works. Power_Ranger

Power_Ranger · Jun 8, 2009 10:19 AM

Sidster and Bob: The things that you talk about is not about religion as such but about people. People can be bad and this is one thing we christians acknowledge and where there are a group of people there will always be politics, power struggle be it a Church or a country and so there is no surprize that there are priests who rape children because they are just using religion for themselves. But i think when we talk about religion we should be talking about the philosophy, the meaning of it and all that not the people. Havn't you heard of pastors in US hoarding money, that is no different than pujaris of pashupti taking all the cash. the same pastors will be teaching about self discipline and giving but it is upto me to be angry at them or practice the good things i believe in my religion.      

Sheetalb · Jun 8, 2009 10:43 AM

Christian competition is actually good for the society. This competition has forced us to look into ourselves and ask what is wrong with our Hindu religion and make changes. We should clean the Hindu religion of all the bad things. Hindu religion should denounce caste system, superstitions, and embrace untouchables, etc. We should not use violence. Violence is so old fashioned.

Power_Ranger · Jun 8, 2009 10:47 AM

Bathroom: Why don't you spread the good news of Hinduism...i am all ears here.....

Sheetalb · Jun 8, 2009 10:49 AM

Bathroom, I am not telling anyone whether or not to switch the religion here. I am only expressing my opinion that if you believe in humanity there is no need for a religion or the conversion. I have seen your constipated comments before. I understand that it makes you feel smarter when you call others ignorant. Pull your head out of your ass its a beautiful day out, its in the 80s, doesn't hurt to let your head see some sunlight sometimes. And if your religion is not making you happy please switch it to the one that makes you most happy and save us from the misery. If switching a religion is going to make you happier and not constipated please do us a favor and switch it to whatever religion you prefer. Sid

sidster · Jun 8, 2009 11:00 AM

Power Ranger,"If we do nothing against this expansion, Hinduism in Nepal will become a minority religion soon. A lot of people are not looking forward to see that happen and want to do something about it by peaceful means. " ha ha ha This just shows how ignorant you are.  There are other people living in Nepal besides Hindus, you are talking as if Hindus are the only people living in Nepal.  The Hindu religion's ignorance has brought this situation upon us. If Hindus had treated everyone fairly, they would not be in the predicament they are in now and feel threatened.  I mean look at yourself ... he he you seem like a well educated person ..... he he  and yet you are talking like a Hindu Taliban.  If Hindus had not supressed the lower caste Nepali citizens and the minority ethnic Nepalis the way they did this situation would not have crop up in the first place.  

BathroomCoffee · Jun 8, 2009 11:08 AM

Sheetalb, I do not believe in any religion btw. ha ha ha  AMONGST ALL CHRISTIANS THE BORN AGAIN ARE THE WORST.  Perfect example ... George Bush and all his right wing cronies who would rather let Bible(a book written more than a 1000yrs ago) dicktate their life in this modernday world literally. ha ha ha They are no different than the Muslim Talibans, all they do is thump their Bible and tell what it says(totally disregarding logic and reasoning).    Sidster, I have seen your diarrhea mouthed smartass coments too, he he And for your kind information I am an atheist and do not believe in god as you know.  And oh yeah its your Diarrhea Mouth that is causing my constipation. ha ha ha

BathroomCoffee · Jun 8, 2009 11:40 AM

 I am happy nepal is a secular country. Coz now all religions have equal say.  well for most part, it is true and sad, Hinduism is bullshit religion. Just take an example of pashupati, they don't allow kuirey to visit. Whereas in any chruch, any1 can drop in. Corrupt people have totally corrupted the religion. Especially bahun mentality people, who have used their religion to maintian some sort of status in the society. Nowdays, even pahsupati is muddled into politics. India bata priest chahine re. desh kai pani na chalney bhaney lai preist banai deu...tehi thik cha...aba ayoo kura tehi extremist harau..La congrats nepal le tyo ni janamayo...thanx to dat asshole mainali guy.who bombed that chruch.tehi religious tolerance ko lai nepal famous thiyo.aba no more.. I totally agree with bathroom coffee on most points.  Look at christianity, they are helping people even if it is in name of religion. their chruch is open for everybod..not just high caste people..or some bahun or chetris..Offcourse christianity is enticing..they are well organized..while bahun preists in temples are just happy collecting offerings made.. Look at now new breed of hinduism, xenophobics.can't even tolerate neighbour with different religion.such a same hinduism will be minority re. people would rather donate to christian chruch which does something for people than that discriminatory hindu temple plagued wth corruption..just like out country..and does nothing for sake of people. Althought all religion is crap..atleast they are helping poeple. I haben't heard of single chariable hindu organization...And Plz don't talk about bahun breeding sanskrit organization..

ji newah · Jun 8, 2009 12:23 PM

prem chopda · Jun 8, 2009 8:00 PM

Once your and my country is Republican, there should not be any issue of Religions.  Who is growing and who is diminishing should  not  be an issue. If you are in favor of Hinduism, we do not have any organization to preserve and bring it to next level. You are Hindu by birth, all other are not welcomed as Hindu. Tell me how you preserve it, we have cast system and untouchable are 4th class citizen in society, they need recognition, how and who will recognize them. In India they are changing to Buddhism where cast and division do not exist, every year thousand of people change their name and religion. So does in Nepal but to Christianity because they are advantages and got recognition. Do not worry and let it go as corruptioon is part of out  (we have given recongition, no on has done  againest  it), so why all of sudden you are worrying of being minority. Did you worry how the money came to your pocket and how your parents made it ? It is part of our life and let it go and move ahead. In another 7-10 years we will be minority againest hindi speaking population what you say about this and what you are thinking about it?????????????????????

बैरागिकाइलो · Jun 13, 2009 6:38 PM

Once your and my country is Republican, there should not be any issue of Religions.  Who is growing and who is diminishing should  not  be an issue. If you are in favor of Hinduism, we do not have any organization to preserve and bring it to next level. You are Hindu by birth, all other are not welcomed as Hindu. Tell me how you preserve it, we have cast system and untouchable are 4th class citizen in society, they need recognition, how and who will recognize them. In India they are changing to Buddhism where cast and division do not exist, every year thousand of people change their name and religion. So does in Nepal but to Christianity because they are advantages and got recognition. Do not worry and let it go as corruptioon is part of our life  (we have given recongition knowingly and unknowlingly, no on has done and raised voice againest  it), so why all of sudden you are worrying of being minority?. Did you worry,  how the money came to your pocket and how your parents made it ?Now it's part of our life and let it go and move ahead. In another 7-10 years we will be minority againest hindi speaking population what you say about this and what you are thinking about it????????????????????? Any Suggestion? Atleaset they are thinking good about Nepal even changed to Christiniaty. Last edited: 13-Jun-09 07:09 PM

बैरागिकाइलो · Jun 13, 2009 6:38 PM

  Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish. I’m a polyatheist – there are many gods I don’t believe in A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it Religion has caused more misery to all of mankind in every stage of human history than any other single idea When a man is freed of religion, he has a better chance to live a normal and wholesome life Gods dont kill people. People with Gods kill people Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense If we expect God to subscribe to one religion at the exclusion of all the others, then we should expect damnation as a matter of chance. This should give Christians pause when expounding their religious beliefs, but it does not. Atheists will celebrate life, while you’re in church celebrating death

Namaskaar · Jun 13, 2009 8:05 PM