Posted by: karmapa May 20, 2006
Nepal secular state, more changes needed
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Grow up guys! aadivasis-janjatis-dalits have been demanding a secular state for years now. It was one of the demands of the recent movement, but was subsumed under the banner “Samabeshi Loktantra.” Going secular is good news for Nepal. this is an EXCELLENT news for both the marginalized muslim/ and historically persecuted christian community as well as for the aadivasi-janjati-dalits! mind you, enlightened brahmins/chhetris have also been in the forefront of a crusade for a secular state. you cannot have a 'samabeshi loktantra' with a hindu tag. how can you have over a dozen upa-dafas pertaining to Hinduism and ONLY ONE in the now-dead constitution (thank God), , and not a single one for Islam or other religions? Tagging Nepal as a "Hindu country" is discriminatory and offensive to countless other religions!!! grow up again dudes! that 85% of the population of Nepal are Hindus is a myth - no matter what the manipulated figures in the population censuses taken during the hindu regime show. Don’t you get it? It was on this and similar other heaps of lies that the legitimacy of the Palace and the God-like status of the Shah Dynasty was built! you must know that the state-sponsored population censuses have always been mired in controversies - and even the National Planning Commission have had to admit to this fact on more occasions than one. “Katmar” under secular Nepal? Again grow up dudes. at least, this is a good first step toward abolition of the apartheid of South Asia (caste system) which stems directly from fundamentalist Hinduism, which has been given protection by the palace. there has been more “katmar” under Hindu Nepal than you can even document. Even animal rights activists are scared of the voracious appetites of hindu gods and goddesses such as Kali Mata. Haven't you heard of the allegations that Mr. Bharat Keshari Singh's groups were involved in the murder of Mr. Pokhrel, who had financed many education institutions across Nepal through organising of "Yagyas”. I think the new Nepal Government must look into this allegation and bring the culprits to book. shiva sena resides in pointlessness in India. they are a spent force. hindu Bishwo Parishad also resides in pointlessness. certainly, Secular Nepal may open up possibilities for religion-based politics and give rise to Nepali BJPs. But there are also countervailing forces in Nepal. You guys have to remember that the Dalits - aadivasis - janjatis - muslims - christians are a formidable force and they have the numbers. enlightened Brahmins and Chhteris are okay with the secular tag, and are even saying that this is best for the country. Maoists as well as the large swathes of rural population they have a sway over have welcome this Secular Tag. So to say that Nepal is imposing a "Secular" tag on a country with 87% to 97% Hindus is a heap of lies. Did I also mention women who are fed up of patriarchy, which had been given a boost and protection by the palace and its god-like King. mind you, the non-Hindu minorities are increasingly empowering themselves, organising themselves and asserting themselves, thanks to the space created for them by the 2046 movement. Aadivashis-janjatis alone make up 37% of the population. Dalits make up 20%. Women make up almost 50%. Christians and Muslims are rapidly growing in numbers. So with figures like these, it is not scientific to say that Nepal is a "Hindu" country. Anyway this has nothing to do with science. Turkey’s muslim population may actually exceed 90% but it is still a Secular Country. I don’t think it Secular Nepal will create any long term problem – it may create a short term problem. If you look at the hilltops in and around Kathmandu, you can see more lavish and more modern Buddhist gombas and monasteries outshining the shive lingas and tridents. This is only a sneak preview of things to come! When the Tamangs / Sherpas/ Gurungs/ Tibetans decide to celebrate a “Lhosar” on the same day (attempts have been made in this direction), then “Lhosar” will truly be a “national” festival, and help forge a pan-aadivasi-janjati solidarity. It is only a matter of time. I say Secular Nepal will not pose problems in the long term because even though Nepali BJPs may come to power (every dag has its day) in Secular Nepal - so what? Many BJPs have come and gone in India - but India is still a secular country. Only in Secular Nepal, can we have equal respect for all religions, all cultures - thus enriching the diversity of Nepal. This is a very positive thing! Otherwise what difference is there between people who are arguing in this thread that Nepal is a “Hindu Country” and should remain so, and our successive kings who have acted like Nepal was their “birta”. Lest people counter that going Nepal secular under is “indianisation of Nepal”, it is good to remember that Nepal has been more indianised under Hindu Nepal. I have actually heard Paras say, “I’m married to India.” He meant both literally and figuratively. You must know about the Sankacharyas from South India, who exercise control over the Pashupati Nath. And it was the Sankarcharya from South India who introduced Hinduism’s ugliest aspect –Caste System – to Nepal. Hell, it was with Hinduisation of Nepal that Indianisation of Nepal began. So if people on this thread argue that Nepal going secular is “indianisation of Nepal” needs to reread Nepali history. Anyway, HINDU tag is an idea whose time has gone. Gone with the wind! i have no doubt pashupati nath temple will acquire a much cleaner and more respected image under Secular Nepal. Under the kathit “Asal Hindu Rastra Nepal”, pashupati nath temple had become a poster boy of mismanagement, fraudulence, chakribad, corruption, sins, thanks to the palace and palace-propped puppets. when count draculas like Bharat Keshari Singh & the palace puppets masquerade as spokespersons for "ASAL HINDU Rashtraya", this is what happens – they ruin/dirty the image of Pashupati Nath temple and also of Hinduism. They allowed the holy Bagmati River/Sali Nadi to be polluted. Where do you think all that money that the devotees offered to Pashupati Nath temple went? No point for guessing correctly. SECULAR NEPAL is an effective way to drive a stake through the hearts of these draculas and their false-god-king and thereby prevent their sullying the image of Hinduism. Under Secular Nepal, we may finally have the chance to restore Hinduism, and thereby Pashupati Nath, Bagmati & Sali Nadi, to their pristine glories and coexist peacefully (more than ever before) with other religions and cultures? Have you thought along these lines at all guys? May Pashupati Nath give you the inspiration to think along these lines as well!
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