time traveler i was not refuting your point. i mentioned waht i said because i thought it would be an interesting analysis. and plus, in some way marraige only resembles prostitution, one can argue. i am not saying traditional marraiages is like prostitution. and seriously speaking ,all my bickering aside i dont believe any gender degrades soceity, like u said. as for moving ahead, men wil alwys come from and women will come from venus. we will always have some level of tension; its inevitable.