Please give me some examples/concrete arguments on why you think Maoists are not kissing India's A$$. The whole [Disallowed String for - bad word]in maoist movement started and fostered under India's supervision. CPN Maoist is not a political party, its a business organization which specializes in generating cash inflow through the easiest but unmoral methods which is only possible in a country like Nepal  and under the guidance of "big f@g brother" India.

uDontWannaFcukWitMe · May 8, 2010 4:41 PM

dalal ji, tarka sahit ko uttar lai aafno pani ta tarka huna paryo.....tapain aafain bhannu huncha " हो यो कुरा साचो हो कि माओबादी ले हत्या र हिंसा को बोलि बोल्छ. आफुलाई कोइ मन परेन भने बोलि ले सम्झाउनु को साटो गोलि ले सम्झौछा. तर मैले बुझ्न नसकेको कुरा यो छ कि माओबादी लाई किनारा लाउने नाम मा माओबादी लाई एक्ल्याए पछि के  हुन्छ देश मा कोसैले सोचेको छ ?" aahile ko 21st centrury ma boli le namane goli le sojhyauchau bhanne manasthiti lai kun tarka le support garne??? ani tapain ko sochai ni yati galat cha ki ka suru garum......maowadi ko birodh garnu ko matlab makune ra sujata ko support garnu haina....ma na maowadi ko suport garchu na yo desh ko dhukuti rittyaune neta haruko....desh ko sab shanti priya janta le maowadi ko virodh gareka chan....tyo maowadi mache ko luga le garda haina...uniharu darr ra dhamki dekhayera j pani garna sakincha bahnne aaham ko virodh ho........ho..koi koi holan tapain le bhane jastai maowadi lai sukilo luga nalaune bhanera mann naparaune...tara tyasari generalize garna milcha ra??? yahan khali prasna cha...ghush khane ra alikati pani class ra education nabhyeka neta harulai sahane ki manche mardai gunda gardi gardai aafno party ko agenda lai zabardasti agadi lyauna khojne... yo ramra option haru hoinan...tara ma manche marne bhanda ghush khane rojchu...yo hamro desh ko bidambana ho...hatyara ra ghushkhori ma ek lai choose garnu parne... ma pheri bhanchu...ma makune ra sujata ya kunai neta ko pani support gardina...jasari janta le aja shanti ko lagi maowadi lai hadtal firta garna lagaye...tyasari nai yo sujata ra maukne haru lai ni hataun. maowadi lai sachai desh ko lagi kehi garnu mann cha bhane....ycl ko kriyakalap banda gara..gunda gardi banda gara...hamile vote diyera timiharu ekchoti jitayau...ramro kam gara..pheri jitaune chau...k tyati bujhna ni garo cha timi harulai.... dalal ji..tapaile naam pani kasto channu bahyeko...tara ma tapailai judge gardina... aba malai tarka sahit tapain uttar dinus ki yo gunda gardi ra goli hanera kura thik huncha bhanne party lai k sochera hami support garaun? ajai samaya cha...janta ko mann jitne kura garnus na..aru ko naramro kaam bahnera aafno naramro kaam kam hudaina ta.... jai nepal

amidstchaos · May 8, 2010 6:26 PM

@udontwanna[Disallowed String for - bad word]   rajniti ma  "use and throw" bhaneko euta pramukh rananiti ho . janayuddha kal ma india lai use garera afno surakchya gare holan . india kai sahyog liera raja lai fale .ani aile CHINA lai use garera india lai counter attcak garna khogirachan. india ma basera janayudha chalaye bhandaima india le chalako bhanna midaina jasto lagcha malai.  (huna ta itihas le bataula india le maowadi use garyo ki maobadi le india lai ) @amidstchaos  thanks for the positive "tarka". ya you are right when you say i choose corrupt politician when choice is to be made with the killers literally. but i want to say whom will you choose if the choice is to be made "nationalist" and "indian agents". ailesamma kunai neta le india lai aaula uthayera khabardaar bhanna sakeko thiyo ? ailesamma kunai neta le 20 barse des bikas ko yojana lyauna sakeko thyo? kun party ka neta le aafno sampati sabai party lai bujhayeka chan? madan bhandari ra birendra le des ko lagi kei garna khoge. tara tini haru eklai bhaye. ra sadyantara ma mariye (sabailai taha cha sadayntra k ho). aile maowadi le garna khogdai chan ra uniharu eklai chainan. lakhau janta ko sath cha . so india  lai ra india ka dalal netaharu lai garo bhacha maowadi lai taha lagauna . so media, gine chuneka elite haru ra paisa ma bikne neta use garera maowadi lai galauna khogdai chan . ma tapai haruko bichar badalna sakdina . sirf aafno prakat garna sakchu. tara yo kura chai thokera bhanchu . maowadi sidhyo bhane des sidhincha . ki sikkim huncha ki afganistan huncha .  jai nepal

dalal · May 8, 2010 7:07 PM

He is not Dalal... he is actually Dahal.... stupid dahal.. and acting like a Dhaal for Prachanda and his cronies.

Ved555 · May 8, 2010 8:12 PM

@dalal: I read this thread earlier also but i didn't felt like commenting because this is that topic which will bring hatred between you and me and i don't like to argue on the things that we cannot come into the conclusion. But i couldn't stop writing when i read your last comment which says "maobadi sakkiyo bhane desh siddincha, ki sikkim huncha ki afghanistan huncha." First of all think twice before what you write and what were you trying to say. Sikkim is the country which is totally governed by its government and there is no terrorism activities so far af afghanistan is the country which is affected by the terrorism activities. So basically you are trying to say that if terrorism ends in afghanistan than it will be  more worst than what it is right now.. What a BS, dalal bro.. Hahaha... Give me the example of one single freaking country which has been developed when they have civil wars and terrorism activities... That is soo funny... So, according to you is maobadi is gone from Nepal, Nepal would be more worst because the so called politician will make the country more worst huh??? hahha well i think amidstchaos is right that we have to choose one thing in the third world country like Nepal, either corruption or Terrorism and to be honest i would choose corruption rather than Terrorism....

boulevard dreams · May 8, 2010 8:14 PM

@amidstchaos  thanks for the positive "tarka". ya you are right when you say i choose corrupt politician when choice is to be made with the killers literally. but i want to say whom will you choose if the choice is to be made "nationalist" and "indian agents" i am glad you agree with me in choosing corrupt politicians vs. killers. now, when you say nationalists vs indian agents, aren't they still the same old killers. its the same question,  with different names. now i do have some respect for prachanda for standing against india, but that doesn't justify his or his party's act of violence against ordinary civilians and the bandas. there are much better ways to get your point across then by killing people and spreading fear with guns. dont you agree??...or you think guns are the only way??????  urge your party to win our hearts with peace...becuase at this point, all we nepalese want is peace.... the country already forgave the death of thousands of innocent lives that were lost during the war by electing them... here is where you are missing the point. you don't have to make a choice between the two..there is a third option...don't support any of them...and fight for what is right....i should have made myself clearer. " I don't choose or support anybody", neither maoist nor politicians. i thought i wrote it earlier."not supporting maoist does not mean supporting makune or other similar politicians" your whole argument is supporting the maoist coz politicians are far worse than maoist..( thats a matter of opinion and i dont agree with yours) but you yourself agree maoist are killers and they are wrong too...then why support maoist...why not fight for what is right, support who you think is right by all accounts...not who is less or more wrong....it is not that hard.  what's wrong is wrong, . ailesamma kunai neta le india lai aaula uthayera khabardaar bhanna sakeko thiyo ? ailesamma kunai neta le 20 barse des bikas ko yojana lyauna sakeko thyo? kun party ka neta le aafno sampati sabai party lai bujhayeka chan? 20 barse yojana????....comeon, we Nepalese are tired of all these plans and no action...yojana banayera k bho ta...40 barse yojana ta mai banaideula aahile...has any credible organization verified that the yozana is doable, or applicable, sustainable, feasible??? or are we just supposed to blindly believe them or you..isn't the burden of proof on you???.  even if it is good, until it starts and works well, no one can judge it, i will hold my judgement until that yozana takes it course.... dont bring yozana and plans as your defense, comeon...krishna prasad bhattrai ko yozana nepal lai singapore banaune thyo,,khai ta....now dont tell me maowadi are different and there yozana is better...thats BS...BS. no one knows until we get to see it work out. kunai party ka neta le sampati bujhyaeka chainan (including prachanda) we are circling here buddy...I dont support these netas..but that doesnt mean i should support the killers... madan bhandari ra birendra le des ko lagi kei garna khoge. tara tini haru eklai bhaye. ra sadyantara ma mariye (sabailai taha cha sadayntra k ho). aile maowadi le garna khogdai chan ra uniharu eklai chainan. lakhau janta ko sath cha . so india  lai ra india ka dalal netaharu lai garo bhacha maowadi lai taha lagauna . so media, gine chuneka elite haru ra paisa ma bikne neta use garera maowadi lai galauna khogdai chan . ma tapai haruko bichar badalna sakdina . sirf aafno prakat garna sakchu. tara yo kura chai thokera bhanchu . maowadi sidhyo bhane des sidhincha . ki sikkim huncha ki afganistan huncha . lankhau janta ko saath bhaye janta le nai kina shanti rally nikalna paryo? please explain... what kind of conspiracy theory are you running??? the world media, nepal media, everybody is citing the incomprehensible act of violence against ordinary citizen and you are denying it??? and your defense is the media is lying...where is you proof???? where are your facts...we are just supposed to believe you?...what is your believe based on?...what babu ram and prachanda say??? thats it?? ... again,,,understand this...you do not have to choose if you know they are wrong...being less wrong doesn't make it right....its still wrong ki sikkim huncha ki afganistan huncha is it a threat?? why do you want to bring civil war? there is something fundamentally wrong with you if you believe everything's solution is gun and violence....and if you want  to wage a civil war to get what you want...you guys will go down...  how can you write jai nepal when you solution is to wage a civil war in your homeland  jai nepal  Last edited: 08-May-10 08:37 PM

amidstchaos · May 8, 2010 8:35 PM

जबसम्म ब्यग्तिगत स्वार्थ नै  दलिय स्वार्थ भन्दा माथि हुन्छ भने राष्ट्रियता को कुरा गौड भएर जान्छ , सस्को पारीणिती हाम्रो समक्ष्य जल्वन्त देखी रहेका छौ. घुस खोरी हरेक धर्मको एउटा अन्स हो, यो अर्थको आदन प्रदान नभै अरुरुपमा छ, यो बौद्दिक शोषण बाट सुरु भएको हो र  अब आएर आर्थिक शोषणमा यो लिप्त छ अनी समाजको अभिन्न अङकै रुपमा समाजले स्विकारी सक्यो। Divide and Rule  भन्ने कुर! British  नियम हैनन बल्की धर्मका अलिखित आधार हुन। अझै हाम्रो हिन्दू धर्म मा जात को बिभाजन ले मुर्त रुप दियो। एही धर्मका माओ बादी ले नयाँ कुरा के दिउन त ? जनता मा आर्को राज गर्ने YCL निकालेको छ, यिनी हरुले जे जे भन्यो तेही मान्नु पर्छ , नत्र भोली गाउ घर आफ्नो भन्न पाईदैन, अझै मनिष हरुको हत्या भाई राखेको छ। यो साझा मा लेखी बस्ने हामी हरुलाई त्यो पिडा को महसुस गर्न खोज्दछौ तर तेस्को नगन्य अन्स मात्रै महसुस हुनेछ । पढनु भयो होला , कसैले दुध खान पालेको गाई कातेर खाइदिये ? पिडा गाई कातेर र खोसेर लगेको अनुभब त गर्‍यो, गाई धनीले दैनिकि भोग्नु र शाहनु पर्ने पिडा उनी सगै छ ।

syanjali · May 9, 2010 8:30 AM

प्रचण्डको टाउकोको फूटबल बनाएर कहिले किक हान्न पाउने होला???

Tmobile · May 9, 2010 9:54 AM

T_mobile, if you are IT geek, create one and post it , we will play in internet. 

syanjali · May 9, 2010 10:03 AM

Syanjali bro,   Go to facebook and look for " देशले रगत मागे प्रचण्ड बलि चढाउनु ..." and add it.

Tmobile · May 9, 2010 10:09 AM

dalal's arguments just dont make sense. the more i read his posts, the more i feel like he is rooting for a civil war in Nepal. this is not something an educated person should be talking about imho. @ dalal - what do u have to say about that prachanda's address to his cadres where he was blatantly making fun of the system, country, and the ignorant ppl and revealing his plans to one day rule the country through lies and trickeries?  

uDontWannaFcukWitMe · May 9, 2010 3:49 PM

राष्ट्र भक्त त तब भाईन्छ जब सबैले काठमाडौं मात्र नेपाल हो भन्ने मनसिक्ताको रुपान्तरन गर्छन्। जबो छ दिन खान नपाउद बाटो म उत्रने  १० बर्ष सम्मा गाउघर का जनता हरुले खपेको सस्ती के ति काठमाडौं बसी खते हरुलाई आबदित थिएन?सब खाते हरु आफ्नो दुनो सोज्यौने नै हुन।   

raju161 · May 9, 2010 4:35 PM

Raju161 thank you for starting hatred again Last edited: 09-May-10 07:07 PM

8848m · May 9, 2010 5:46 PM

दलाल को कुरा चै मलाई मन पर्‍यो है , देस भनेको काठमाडौं मात्र हैन , रुकुम को खारा अनी जनक्पुर को धनुषा पनि हो , माओवादी को बिरोध गर्दै मा देस ले प्रगति गर्दैन ! देस लाई लुटेर बाडेर सत्ता मा बसेर सिङपुर र कपन गेह( मैले नाम बिर्सें ) मा सयोउ को जमात लगेर राष्ट्र को धुकुती मा राजाइ गर्दा त्यो पापड कहाँ थो ? काठमाडौं को सभ्य जनता कहाँ थे अनी अैले माओवादी को बिरोध ? तेत्रो जनमत पाएर बसेको पार्टी सडक मा छ २ २ ठाउँ बाट हारेका र समाज मा पैलाई गनैसकेका को जमात ले राष्ट्र लाई बारम्बार लुत्दा काठमाडौं का जनता किन उथ्दैन ? मलाई गर्ब छ आज म काठमाडौं बासी हैन

amricane · May 9, 2010 7:58 PM

ठीक   हो देश भनेको काठमाडौं मात्र होइन कसैले हो भनेको पनि छैन तर   माओवादीले काठमन्दु मा जनत ओसरेको त? एक्चोति सोध्ने हो प्रश्न  माओवादीलैइ            माओवादीको बिरोध गरेर देश बन्दैन , हो सत्य हो तर म्अोबदिको समर्थन गरेर देश बन्छ त  बन्दैन ........ देश् भनेको खरा र रुकुम पनि हो तर के गर्‍यो त माओवादीले त्यहका जनता को लागि  ?  जनता भनेको माओवादी मात्र होइन अरु पनि छन अरु पार्टीको मान्छेलैइ मान्छे नगन्ने लाई के भन्ने त / के तपाईं देश को हरेक मामालमा पापद्ले झपत दिनु पर्छ भन्नु   ? पर्छ भने किन तपाईं तलका मामालमा पापद खोइ भनेर नकराएको त / १, शान्ती पस्चत पनि YCL को नाम म हिन्स हुँदा खोइ पपद भनेको त ? २। रामहरी लैइ मर्द खोइ पपद भन्नु पर्ने होइन र / ३  प्रचन्ड ले शक्तिखोरे देश र जनता  को बिरोधमा बोल्दा को भिडियो बहिर अहुँदा पापद खोइ भनेर त सोधेनौ ? जनमात पएर सरकार चलाऊअन दिएकै हो माओवादी लैइ  कस्ले रोकेको थियो र ? जनमत क्o क्उर गर्ने हो भने एमले र् कांग्रेस क्ओ टोटल वोते माओवादी क्ओ भन्दा बढी छ  Dui ठाउँ बाट हरेको मान्छेलैइ कस्ले सम्भिडन सभामा ल्यायो त् ? माधव नेपाल ज्अस्तो मान्छेलाई प्रधान मन्त्री बनाउनमा माओवादी क्ओ ठुलो हात छ  माओवादी क्ओ बिरोध भनेको सरकार को समर्थन होइन भनेर बुझ्न किन ग्अर्हो  माओवादी क्ओ बिरोध भनेको गरीब जनत को बिरोध होइन  माओवादी गरीब  जनता लैइ सपना बन्धेर आफ्नो स्वार्थ पुरा गर्न  खोज्दै छ भनेर   किन बुझ्दैन मान्छे  हरु /

rahashya · May 9, 2010 8:58 PM

माओवादी-खाओबदी जो सुकै होस् ...... जबरजस्ती गर्ने कसैलाई पनि छोडिन्न   

Free H1B · May 9, 2010 9:07 PM

People are looking for miracle, from Rana, from Tribhuvan, from Mahendra, from Congress, from UML and from Maoist. In this history, sometime people voted Nanimaiya Dahal, sometime Padma Ratna, sometime Krisna prasad, some time Madan Bhandari, and finally Mr. Prachanda. It is a politics, where leaders are fighting for power, some are less currpted, some are more, some are less voilent, some are more but the basic nature of these charecters are similar because they are the product of our own motherland Nepal. Definitley, politics is now a profession. Now who is Pracanda and who are Maoist. These are same people who were UML and congress before, but from the frustration, poverty and the lack of the governmence, these people are converted to Maoist and some are forcefully and some not. Ok, now what would happen to this country, nothing would happen there were enough Mandale, Nebisang, Youth Force in Nepal who hates maoist,  like in Sajha (these group represent the same group) and there are enough people in YCL and Maoist. Either Congress, UML or King are using the people to fight against Maoist or Maoist is preparing to fight to other people with his group but these groups of people are Nepali. Some of you guys even don't want to think about Pracanda or Maoist or YCL, don't worry, because of the poverty, unstability no one will be stable in Nepal because people are mobile and they need another miracle from other people. People are thirsty, people are poor and people are uneducated. The basic differences between the people from remote area and people like me who is studying in USA is they hate all of us and if they get chance they will start hating Maoist again. It is a process. So, the important question here is who can be our hero. Who is the best for your country. Some of us will say, a dictetorship, some will say somthing, something. Contd. This is a miracle to Nepali, a hope, a frustration, anarki, thoughts, poverty, hate Maoist, fight for Maoist, Maoist Army, India ------------- Last edited: 09-May-10 09:44 PM

timer · May 9, 2010 9:39 PM

this is another miracle

Free H1B · May 9, 2010 9:58 PM

सर्बप्रथम दलाल जि लाई यो कुरो आबघत गराउन चाहन्छु कि माओवादी खत्तम भयो भने देश कदापी खत्तम हुँदैन। किनभने माओवादी पनि एउटा राजनैतीक सिद्दान्तह बोकेको जमात हो र खुकुरी, छुरी, बन्दुक नाल, तिनरुका  हात्खुट्टा हुन। अझै पनि बुद्धि बिवेक गुमाएका छैनन् भने माओवादीले के बुझ्नुपर्छ भने नेपाली जनता उसको पक्षमा छैनन्, केबल शान्ति र विकासको पक्षमा छन् | माओवादीको चरित्र र सक्कली अनुहार आम नेपालीले देखिसकेका छन्| यिनीहरु जनताको मनमा बस्न खोज्नुको सट्टा जसरी भए पनि हत्या-हिंसाको सहाराले आम नागरिकलाई त्रसित बनाई आफ्नो नियन्त्रणमा राख्न चाहन्छन्|आफ्नै अण्डा खाने सर्प र आफैंले ल्याएको लोकतान्र्तिक गणतन्त्रलाई सत्तास्वार्थका बलि चढाउन लालायित नेताहरू उस्तै हुन्। जुन जोगी आए पनि कानै चिरेको भन्नु यहाँ सार्थक हुन्छ। देख्छु बाबुराम जि र गजुरेल जि का सन्तान बिदेश मा म जसरी नै एअर कनदीसोनड खोपीमा मस्त छन् तर ति गऊघरका कलीला दुदे बलक बन्दुक बोकी रहेका छन - के को लागि हो यो नाटक नेपाल आमा को काखमा? र अर्को जमात छ यहाँ जस्को जन्मेर नाइटो झरेको छैन ,माओवादी का बिरुद्ध मा विषवमन गर्छन्। फेरी दोहरयाउन चाहन्छु घ्रिना ले घ्रिना जन्माउछ। ति रुपैयाका दामले किनिएक माओवादी पनि हम्रै दाजुभाई हुन। बुझ गाउघर को अबस्ता अनी बुझ आफ्नो मनसिक्ता।  

raju161 · May 10, 2010 3:08 AM

@boulevard dreams: Sikkim WAS a Nation, not anymore!! I feel you have not turned the History book since 1975!! To understand why he was referring to Sikkim you need to look into more about Sikkim's History and Character called "Lendup Dorjee" About Afghanistan the analogy is, look what happens when your country is playing ground for International Politics(look at its History, Soviet Vs America). I'll give you an example: Lets suppose Civil War breaks out in Nepal, and India sends its Troop in Nepal , "For Stability of Democracy and for Protecting Freedom and Liberty of Nepali People."!! Then they start a rampant killing and rape of Nepali Citizen!! They create a puppet government, but you feel you need to do something for your country and join with Forces to fight against Indian Military force in Nepal? So are you a Terrorist or a Freedom fighter?? In Nepal, the ONLY OPTION for stable Peace is to have a UNITY GOVERNMENT and to DRAFT a CONSTITUTION in TIME!! If we start with petty EGO Fight then our whole nation will Suffer!! Click here to subscribe to boulevard dreams's postings. You will get notification when the users posts in sajha. Loading...';ajaxpage('subscribeto.cfm?userid=504a85be-542f-4fd3-b307-62afb82852fd','subspan6');">

Lahure Kancha · May 10, 2010 7:54 AM

yo maobadi ko birodh haina. 5 din nepal bandha kasaile garema k janata chupa lagera basna sakcha. usko chora chori school jana napauda, khana napauda ani kaam garera paisa kamauna napauda, jasto sukai manche lai pani ris uthcha. Maobadi le j garyo thik garyo, sarkar le galti gareko cha, nikamma cha bhane tyasko birodh 100% garnu parcha, tara janata lai dukha diyera haina. Ti neta haru sabai ko ghar banda garidiu na( tyatikai pani office gayera talab matrai thapne ta hun, nikkamma haru ). Ra maobadi le pahile jastai bal le nai sabai huncha bhanera manche marna thalyo bhane, k janata le afno surakcha ko lagi kehi sochda birodh gareko huncha.

dav · May 10, 2010 11:16 AM

जून पार्टी को चाहाना अणि क्रियाकलाप नागरिकको हितको बिपरीत छ, त्येस्तो पार्टीको बिरोध गर्नु रास्त्रभक्त नै हो | एक ताका येही मावोहरुले राजाको बिरोध गरेर रास्त्रभक्तको गुणगान गएका थिए . आज त्येही मावोहरूको क्रियाकलाप जनताको हीतको बिपरीत हुनपुगेको छ

grgDai · May 10, 2010 11:32 AM

thanx laure kancha for replying ....mood nai chalena nabujne lai reply garna . jaslai history taha chaina tyslae present pani bujeko hudaina .

dalal · May 10, 2010 3:55 PM

Dalal bro, good point you raised about "jaslai history taha chaina tyslae present pani bujeko hudaina ." Be it Financial World/Political World/Social World/Scientific World/Computer World :-)) name anything.... Hope you have read "People's History of United States", Howard Zinn!!

Lahure Kancha · May 10, 2010 5:11 PM

Yo thread Stockholm Syndrome ko upaj ho ki k ho?

f22 · May 10, 2010 5:58 PM

Dalal.. is Dhaal... Pachanda chor`s Dhaal...... when prachanda fogs his wife Sita.. dalal acts like a dhaal...

Ved555 · May 10, 2010 10:32 PM

i pity you dalal..seriously..i pity your ignorance... you started the whole thread asking for answers to our questions with tarka....after i and several others responded..u did not answer with tarka to any of us. lahure kancha...? nobody is questioning the unity government for peace, many users including me mentioned it in previous threads....we are questioning the methods of maoist...the method of using violence as the solution to everything... your analogy on Afghanistan is so far off buddy....there was a war between russia and america and usa aided  taliban to fight of russia for its own interest. unless china and india go on wars and put nepal in the middle....the analogy doesn't work...it is different situation.. here's your biggest mistake...your hypothesis of india having its troops in here and killing raping civilians...in todays world, country just dont send troops to other country to solve their internal problems,...the tension between maoist and other political party's in our internal issue...UN soldiers will be here long before any indian troops if things get crazy...... and here is the irony of your logic....you presented us with a hypothetical almost impossible situation of india having its troops here...lets say you are right...may be it can happen...my question to you is...replace india with maoist and you have got a situation that is not hypothetical and it is as real as it can get....maoist have constantly raped and killed cilvilians and we are fighting against it..... SO ARE WE TERRORIST OR FREEDOM FIGHTERS????...think hard and answer... we just want peace...thats all we want... i respect you for wanting peace too...as we all do.. Last edited: 10-May-10 11:02 PM

amidstchaos · May 10, 2010 10:57 PM

@amidstchaos I was replying to "boulevard dreams"!! I though it was necessary to write where FACT was twisted!! (where Sikkim was claimed as a sovereign country)!! Violence doesn't solve anything that is my Stand!! Neither i'll argue against or for the establishment or the Maoist in this scenario. My hypothesis was just to show "boulevard dreams" when s/he claimed there are lots of terrorist activities in Afghanistan, with respect to Dalal's claim. So my question to you is "if Afgans fight back against American occupancy are they called freedom fighter or a terrorist?"...so will be the case if India send's its troop in Nepal!! History: There was NO WAR between Russia (Soviet) and America. (if it's Cold War, then Yes). Still my point is when Countries (read Nepal/Afghanistan) becomes playground for International Politics, it is the country which is being PLAYED that SUFFERS!! When India's Para-military force called BSF or SSB (Border Security Force/Seema Suraksha Bal) already doing "Raping and Harassing Part(killing may be isolated case)", Active 25 camps headed by Colonel of Indian Army are present in different parts of Nepal in name of Pension Camps. The continuous encroachment and Kalapani, and active involvement of Ambassador of India to Nepal in our internal matters are an example of Proxy Occupancy!! I agree my hypothesis might be less probable considering the fact China is in UNSC with Veto power(considering it will vote against) and if India wants to move its Military, it'll do via UN help, than without!! BUT BUT Under Article 51 of UN Rules, USE OF FORCE in SELF DEFENSE  is the RIGHT Granted to all the STATES under that CHARTER!! [when India is drawing parallel between theirs' own Insurgency  and Nepali Maoist, it may not be sheer coincidence] UN peacekeeping Soldiers coming to Nepal, you are kidding right?? "A traditional peacekeeping operation is established when parties to a conflict, typically two states, AGREE to the interposition of UN troops to uphold a ceasefire. Well it Happens in Today's World : "example Panama(1989)/Iraq(~1990-20~)/Afghanistan/Serbia(Kosovo)/Georgia(By Russia)/ Presence of US forces in Korea......and how can we forget VIETNAM!! In Nepal's Scenario we all are NEPALI....even Maoist are Nepali!! When you say WE are fighting against Maoist, and Maoist claim they are Fighting for Nepali's Right!! Whom do we believe??......Its the same case  of "One Man's Terrorist is, Another Man's Freedom Fighter"!! Take any BOOK on CLASS UNREST and read it, then you'll understand Nepal's Scenario from different perspective!! I am totally against VIOLENCE METHOD, both by REBEL or GOVERNMENT!! Violence cannot solve anything..... If you Bring Democracy/Change via GUNS you have to DEFEND it VIA GUNS and you'll be BROUGHT down by GUNs......example: China/Iran/N Korea/Afghanistan/Iraq/Kosovo/Central American Banana Republics/ other South American Countries!! Only Non-Violence can bring Permanent Peace: Gandhi(India), Mandela(SA), Dr. King (US Civil Right Movement)

Lahure Kancha · May 11, 2010 7:16 AM

lahure kancha.... i am glad we are basically on the same side.... although i don' think i will ever forgive maoist for the lives they have taken, i understand they have become as important of a political party than any others, so a unified govt for now before an election has become necessary..... i barely post or reply to threads on sajha...but this time i felt we general public have had enough of maoist thinking of "my way or the highway" "join us or be killed or beaten" attitude... all we want is peace and for maoist to use peace and care as their weapon rather than violence...i know it is not the easiest way because other parties are a bunch of dickheads too...but somebody has to step up and be an example... i am glad that most of us sajha users including you and me feel the same way.... dalal, i hope you understand all we want is peace....and violence is not the only solution.. im outta here.... jai nepal Last edited: 11-May-10 08:28 AM

amidstchaos · May 11, 2010 8:28 AM

Sathi haru lai mero anurodh kurai nubijhi maoist ko dalal banna nakhoju.   Sarkar paiyena bhanera janatalai dukha dine. Janata le kina support garne maobadi lai. Maobadi le pani ta sarkar chalayekai ho k garyo ra? Nepali congress le UML le kam garna nadiyera kam nagareko ho re? teso bhayeta aba pheri sarkar banaye pani ta tiniharu le kam garna didaina kin janu ta sarkar ma. Afu kei garna nasakne ani dosh aru lai dine. 301 sabhasad bhayeta Makune dhali halyo ni. Democracy afaile lyaune ani democracy biparit hami le sarkar chalauna paina bhanera banda garne.   Afu khali janata lai lutera dukha diyera khane bani lageko desh bikash garne thaha pani paunu paryo ni sadhai bhatkauna matra janeko le banauna jandaina.  Ke ho YCL bhaneko kina chaiyo YCL khali janata tarsauna ani tender jati tharkayera afno hatma parna hoina.  Maoist le election kasari jiteko pani janata lai tha chha. Khali buth capture garera, congress and UML ko supporters lai kidnap garera matra hoina. Sathi haru ma pani booth capture ko pidit bhayekole malai hoina bhanera kasaile justification dinu pardaina.  J hos aba jhagada bhanda pani sabai milera sarkar banaunu parchha. desh ma new sambidhan banaunu parchha. Natra desh nai rahane kurama question utla hai sathi haru hami haru bistarbadi ko  neighbour ho. 

jawan1999 · May 12, 2010 10:10 AM