Problems101, Who r the Nepalese Victims? As far as i recall there were atleast 3 families living in the University green Apartments.

pyaradeshbasiharu · Nov 17, 2009 2:18 PM

pyaradeshbasiharu, Click here to subscribe to pyaradeshbasiharu's postings. You will get notification when the users posts in sajha. Loading...';ajaxpage('subscribeto.cfm?userid=9a39d899-080b-4d00-bf8d-99cb136e95f7','subspan2');">I really do not know. I just saw this link on facebook and posted it in Sajha.  It is sad and hopefully they will be able to raise some funds for the victims.

problems101 · Nov 17, 2009 3:03 PM

There're more than 15 nepali families living there. But only two nepali families were affected living in that block.

lakhe · Nov 17, 2009 3:14 PM

lakhe, Can you please name the families if u feel Appropriate? 

pyaradeshbasiharu · Nov 17, 2009 4:50 PM

Sorry, I can't give the names.

lakhe · Nov 17, 2009 5:18 PM

Anyways thanks Lakhe..I got the names

pyaradeshbasiharu · Nov 17, 2009 7:09 PM

hey there lakhe..i would like to tell you that those family who lost there home were my aunts but sorry that i cannot enclose there names.. and my family is one of the family who lives in this apartment complex. i am new to Sajha just signed in today....

pinklover · Nov 18, 2009 3:19 PM

I don't wanna sound absurd... but c'mon people this is too much.... I know it must be hard for the families and all but....you guys are in america and probably the units are insured and they might be able to get some money out of it..........they should have a decent job and all coz they are in USA..... on top of that they sound fortunate and might have a green card... the US government might have some program for fire victims...... If you really wanna help why not help the flood victims of nepal or the orphans from the 12 year of violence.... or maybe buy books to millions of kinds in nepal who don't go to school...these people in nepal live below the poverty line and they don't have credit cards, no money in the bank and they can't even have houses....... So please don't sound so pathetic...... if you wanna stand up for the cause then do something meaningful.....  Again, it was a terrible thing that happened to the nepali family in texas.  Peace out.....

blingbling · Nov 18, 2009 4:14 PM

i live in the same apartment complex different unit then that was burned.i saw from my  own eyes the whole unit burnt down; people screaming and crying.i heard that there are lot of nepali families living in this complex, but i hardly seen any. anyways my full sympathy to all the families residing in the unit.

houston_kancho · Nov 18, 2009 10:26 PM

My wholehearted sympathy to the families. Have they thought of contacting a local Nepalese society and ask them to do a nation-wide help campaign. In the past, Nepalese people have been united in helping a fellow Nepali in need. The Paypal site by itself does not look credible. If you could put an association behind it, maybe people would be more apt to giving to this dire cause. There is also a disaster relief program through the Association of Nepalese in America (www.ana-online.com). You may want to contact Mr. Shimon Dhungana, the President of ANA, and he could steer you to a positive direction. @Blingbling: If you disagree with someone, you can just say you disagree with it and not make up an excuse like "I'm not trying to be absurd but..." because the statement you made was already absurd. You didn't need to give it an excuse. We are an open forum in a civilized society. It is my hope that we understand there are dissent to situations. With that said--a fire is a fire, whether in Nepal or America. These folks need help, and please give them unconditional support in this time of crisis.

doctorbee · Nov 18, 2009 11:52 PM

Okay let me make myself clear......  you tell me what has ANA done in the past that would make it stand out in the Nepali community ?  Except for parties with expensive prices... and can you tell me where the money goes ?  I didn't said I don't have sympathy for the victims... but we are in USA... we have a lot of opportunity than most of the people in NEPAL... All I am saying is if you stand for a cause make it sound like you really mean it ..........if there is fire then there is salvation army , red cross society........ and of course there is insurance........ they can easily make out of it.....  BTW doctorbee, when was the last time you shown sympathy to people of nepal who went through so much shit and you were busy earning dollars working in a gas station......what about the thousands who lost their houses in flood, what about the 100 who died in a bus accident and how about the thousands who lost their parents in maoist insurgency .... what about them.... where was ANA when those things happen ?  just don't pretend that you care.......  it's easy for those families to overcome these calamities if they are in the USA.....  BTW why are you advocating ANA ?  because ANA caters the interest of your in laws and your friends so that they can cater your interest ?? really ??? I am not making a statement... I was just telling the truth....and if I sound absurd please forgive me.....  so you belong to civilized society ?? if I can't express my opinion and you have problem with my freedom of speech how come you are civilized ??? this is a public forum and I have the right to say what I feel... now that's civilized.... if you are really that concerned why don't you donate $400  or anything and I promise to match your contribution.....  lets see if you are really that concerned ??? else F  off....

blingbling · Nov 19, 2009 12:46 AM

what? want donation but don't want to publish name? never heard of it. Without a full needed story how do we know how much to donate? there are always good helps from red cross insurance etc since they are in US not in nepal. Well I might be wrong but how the hell would I know? .. not my fault  since you are blocking the information.

( * )( * ) · Nov 19, 2009 1:53 AM

First of all, thanks for expressing your opinion freely. A candid and frank discussion can definitely lead to success at any forum. I am not here to defend ANA's practices. Considering I have been to the ANA Convention several times, I have seen a lot of money flow into the convention, but not much seems to come out of it. However, they have made tremendous efforts to contact the diaspora and be more reachable in the past few years. To illustrate some of the current and past projects they have undertaken, you can go to their web site: http://anaonline.org/web/index... (That list also includes the Koshi flood victims--an issue you seem to be very concerned about) Even though their transparency has not been great, they are still a credible resource for the family in Texas. ANA represents Nepali people, and using it as a resource in time of need has no negatives to it. Second of all, there's a widely spread myth that "Everyone with a greencard or everyone in the United States is well off and folks in the United States have a better life". Better opportunity, yes. Better freedom, yes. Better life? Not necessarily. Not for everyone at least. I have seen countless families that are very unhappy with their situation in the United States. You can't just make a generalized statement regarding this. Third of all, I don't want to stay here and defend all the goods (or bads) I have done. I don't want to defend my personal character in this either. It's no one's business on how I express my care and concerns about the people of Nepal and how I decide to help someone. I will tell you, however, that my family members lost their house and had to relocate because of the flood. Once again, this goes to the point about making a generalized statement about everyone that is in the United States. You're in the US, and I'm sure you've seen that not everyone has a generalized lifestyle in America. It is no El Dorado with golden streets and prosperity everywhere for everyone. We all have different stories. Lastly, these families need our support, and not arguments saying they don't have it bad, and that folks have it worse. They don't deserve comparison, they deserve support. (P.S. I am not going to place a bet with with you @BlingBling. If you feel like you can donate that much money to a cause, please be free to do it. It'll be for the good.) (P.P.S. I don't work at a gas station.)

doctorbee · Nov 19, 2009 2:24 AM

thanks for the info........ nothing personal...... good luck......

blingbling · Nov 19, 2009 3:28 AM

I pray for those families at this hard time. And I am responding only with Blingbling's first response the content related to this thread.  "units are insured" as Blingbling mentioned.  My previous Apt Complex management  required me to insure the apartment as required by the lease. And this recent Apartment I live in, it is not required but still I insured it. I have insured with only $18 dollar a month and you can have coverages up to $55,000 to $60,000. I am just clearing Blingbling's statement. 

Sexy In Sari · Nov 19, 2009 7:50 AM

Yes agreed, if they want help, they need to go public with their names.

ananta09 · Nov 19, 2009 8:25 AM

I agree with Blingbling.

gurkha's · Nov 19, 2009 8:44 AM

Asking for a help hiding identity is not helpful..........

daka · Nov 19, 2009 10:10 AM

i agree with blingbling. Guys US is a land of opportunities. instead of helping the rich get back to his standards dont u think helping poor to survive would be better option. help those ppl who are starving to death and have no opportunities at all. atleast these ppl are in us. fire, i am sure did not take their jobs. just my thought . well if we could help those ppl out there live just another day with a smile back in nepal would be wonderful. if u search u will see hundreds of ppl . i have even seen ppl outside bir hospital who wish to live just another day but  are ignored because they cant afford health care, medi etc.  i am sure these fire victims will be taken care by the apartment ppl. i am not trying to discourage ur sympathy towards them but just putting in my thought about other more needy ppl then these fire vistims. good bless all.

abc_n_xyz · Nov 19, 2009 10:23 AM

I work in a gas station.

ucomba · Nov 19, 2009 10:27 AM

really sad to hear that !!!

damikattu · Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM

that was nice sexy in sari......

blingbling · Nov 19, 2009 3:34 PM

Looks like several people are saying that victims can use renter's insurance. I can tell you that these individuals did not have insurance. Otherwise they would not have asked for help! I agree with one discussion participant - fire is fire whether it is in USA or in Nepal. These individuals lost majority of their belonging that was accumulated with hard earned money. Those who came to USA and had to start life from the scratch would agree that it is indeed a struggle to survive in USA. I agree there are plenty of opportunities. Still it takes many years of hard work, patience etc. Long story short - if you feel like, send few dollors you can afford. If not, you do not have to contribute. Just do not go on comparing tragedy. If you feel like helping unfortunate kids in Nepal, you should do it right away. This is a great cause. I think it is absurd to say that house fire in Nepal is worse and apartment fire in USA in not as worse. Not only these people lost their stuffs, they also had to go through some kind of trauma.  Above two comments were meant for blingbling guy and all others who has similar opinion. Just curious to know if this blingbling guy has sent any books to unfortunate kids in Nepal? If he/she has not, I suggest he/she should do it immediately. Trust me - you will feel great no matter how small your contribution is. Please do not post comments that will make victims feel worse than they already have ... that's all!

nepalisajha · Nov 19, 2009 6:03 PM

Just wanted to point out something to doctorbee and others who thinks paypal site does not look credible. I just went to below website:   http://www.help4crisis.com/hou...  On the right had box, I see three contribution options. First and second looks to be paypal sites. Second one seems to belong to Nepalese Association of Houston paypal account. The 3rd option is to mail check to Nepalese association of Houston. Hence, looks like you can use option that you find credible. So, rather than arguing and pointing fingers send some contribution if you feel like it. If you don't feel like it, read a book or watch a movie and go to bed!

nepalisajha · Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM

Thanks for the information, Nepalisajha! This is very helpful. I can't believe I didn't see the link.

doctorbee · Nov 19, 2009 9:59 PM

O hoo!!!! without no formal news or evidence about the nepali in a fire ppl are tryin' to spread it all over and tryin' to collect the fund in this way. Nepali ho kam ta garchhan hola ni ani why paisa? Anyway nobody keeps money in house rather than keeping in a bank. If the news could be true and nepali were really caught in fire then there are so many nepali people around the world who have more critical condition.. What about them? First post the evidences and if it is really critical then this poor guy will ready to dig the money for victim. And of course many other ppl will help'em.  There is our land where there are so many sufferings and so many lives in a darkness. The cruel ppl are taking over the power every now and then. The warm bloods  who are supposed to do some good for their place are being jumping over other places. Most of their effort is for themselves and for places where they are living. Their country is sinking in the ocean of darkness. Today it is known as the POOREST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Is it still not the time to think for our motherland?????  If you know HELP, help for the right matter. Help for the body that is struggling for life and death. Our place is really lookin' for our help. Lets think about it. Lets think about some effective social program that we can launch in our country. If we don't see non then we still can help. What about the single lady who is providing shelter and all kind of help to nearly 30 old and weak ppl. Can't we encourage her. Our country needs heroes and pioneers like her, the Indra Lohani, and so many martyrs who have fought for our Nation. I don't wanna say some more because it is not the time to say but it is really the time to think and it is the time to do. Please don't take it as WHATEVER??      Last edited: 19-Nov-09 11:29 PM Last edited: 19-Nov-09 11:32 PM Last edited: 19-Nov-09 11:34 PM

b27b · Nov 19, 2009 11:27 PM

This is one thing that sucks in the US. The apartments and houses are so lightweight here. I liked the houses in Nepal which are built with a solid foundation and with bricks.

kuhire · Nov 20, 2009 8:00 AM

Few things should be clear here. What r the things that were destroyed. And how much money are we planning to raise ?

gurkha's · Nov 20, 2009 8:30 AM

Doctorbee.... if you are asking for help be clear about it.....What was destroyed by fire ?  Can we know please ....  ani yo nepali ko k para ho yaar .... mauka paayo ki haat failaune......  I don't even know who you are ... how you are related to the victims..... and why this sympathy ??   Dude America is the land of opportunity and if you work hard you can do a lot in this place.... and if your relatives lost some furniture in fire and they can't afford to get those things back .... don't they have some savings in the bank ?  Life is very hard in USA but c'mon you seriously think those families can't get out of this....  Students from different part of the country come to this place with nothing... They bring utensils and food from Nepal before they come to this place....and everyone starts from zero.....  And if you can't get your shit together in this country with all the opportunities you have ;you don't belong here.... you don't deserve to be here......... if you are asking for help please be more transparent.......   PS  I love my country and I have done my part when it was necessary .. I don't need to tell you that.... Go to Macy's apply for a credit card and rack up another $2000 in debt for furnishing your new apartment and you will be out of this..... work hard and work extra hours for a month and you will be able to pay that in a month.....  see how easy that is ? piece of cake !!! Peace out... Last edited: 20-Nov-09 09:00 AM

blingbling · Nov 20, 2009 8:57 AM

Look at the sick mentality being shown by some nepalese here.  I hope this thread inspire you to donate to the more unfortunate ones than these fire victims.  Really frustrated to see the mentality of you. Why do you need to make everything controversial? Nobody is saying they're the most unfortunate ones. When I donate, I don't try to compare. Somebody wrote we should donate to the flood victims, and some to some other cause. I can give you thousand other more unfortunate ones than the ones you cited. If you just want to argue and carry on with this leg pulling game, I've nothing to say. Otherwise, stop this humiliating leg-pulling game. I hope all of you who're barking are donating money to other more unfortunate ones. This is what is exactly happening in our Nepal. Fighting for every single issue. If you want to do good, start locally. If you can't help the community you're living in, I doubt you're going to help the world. When somebody is in pain here and asking for help, I've the right not to help, but I don't have to argue showing how smart I'm by saying that there're other people who're in need for more help and that's why I won't help you and I won't help the others in need also because there're always someone more in need. When are we going to grow up? And look at some jealous people here. I hope you'd never be in pain.

arahat · Nov 20, 2009 9:05 AM

see here is your problem..... you are pulling leg because you are trying to spit your frustration from other thread... which is now quiet obvious......  sick mentality ??? really ??? we were just trying to have a decent debate and you step in with a global relief package like mother teresa did ?  how are we even making this controversial.......... and look at your mentality ??? you think others are barking just because they tend to disagree with you ?? wow that's a world winning mentality .... bravo...... and what's up with this start locally bullshit ??  now you are local in USA........damn what a day ... I just realized that arahat is helping the nepali community in the USA and he is gonna help the world tomorrow ... he is gonna leave USA and go to rwanda to feed the hungry... he is going to help the world build darfur... wow .... what a noble man....  good luck on your crusade....

blingbling · Nov 20, 2009 9:35 AM

Very well said arahat! Completely agree with what you were saying. I have already made few comments previously. Hence to summarize: If somebody does not feel like helping these individuals, they do not have to. Nobody is forcing them to Comparison between unfortunate events is not appropriate, despite of geographic location Yes, there are infinite number of causes in the world which may be more heart-touching than this one If you agree with above point, I recommend you find those causes and help whole-heartedly as much as you can Even if nobody helps, these individuals will be able to carry-on. This is not the end of the world for them Just like arahat said, please do not display sick mentality by pointing fingers at each other and by comparing I am getting sick of some of the rude comments written in this thread. Looks like these people are writing just because they are proud of their opinion, and they may be arguing only to make the point to demonstrate that they are smart and right! I doubt if these individuals have any sympathy whatsoever for anybody except for themselves.  Well, everybody has a right to say or think just the way they want to ... so be it. Hence I am going to keep quiet. Tired of this!

nepalisajha · Nov 20, 2009 9:57 AM

I have not seen such a rude way to ask for help. It does not make any sense to help without knowing who they are? There is not a single news on that fire incident!!!! How do we know that the incident was/is real.  Why those people want help and are hiding identity? Are they really rich or upper class family in Nepal???? Why do not ask Nepalese Association of Houston for help? They will circulate the news and information about these victims all over other nepalese association in USA. Everyone would be ready to help if other people think that they deserve for help. It is not an appropriate way to ask for help. Instead you are jeopardizing the possibility of getting help. Rest is up to you and the victims. 

sachokura · Nov 20, 2009 10:32 AM

blingbling, do you want to carry on with janajatis discussion? That's never ending, that's why I left What made you think I got frustrated? The irony is that you're trying to show your frustration and getting enjoyment by laughing on others pain. Don't start preaching about a decent debate you hate monger! Well, my mentality may not good be enough. But I can clearly see that the mentality of yours and the bandwagon following yours are even worse. Wherever I stay is local, I don't have to be citizen. If I don't feel any attachment to the place I'm living and don't care for the place I'm living, I think I don't care for anything. Blingbling, FYI I've donated only once and I've not donated anything for the cause in this thread. But I don't show my frustration on others like you do. I hope you'd never get in the position to ask for the help, and if you ever do and in need for the help and please imagine what if everyone have the thoughts like yours. Well, thanks a lot for wishing me. I may not go to Rwanda to save the world. But I'll try to help whatever I can for the people around me first and won't try to compare that others are suffering more than them, and then make an excuse for not helping. If I decide not to help, I'd simply won't help, and I don't need to go to the person asking for the help and say that others are suffering more than you and go on preaching others should get more help while I don't spend a penny for any cause. Here comes another ignorant sachokura. Little knowledge is really dangerous. Did you even try clicking this link? Lots of hatred among us these days. Though you made valid argument about the identity, all your diarrhoea mouth could have stopped if you ever clicked that link. I'm sorry for making this  thread too controversial to the poster and I won't respond anymore in this thread. 

arahat · Nov 20, 2009 12:04 PM

@Blingbling--I dont' know the victims of the fire. I am just showing solidarity to a fellow Nepalese in their time of hardship. Isn't that what Nepalis are supposed to do? There are a few of us, and we can help our folks out, even though they may be perfectly capable of getting out of the rut. All they need is our support right now. We are a community and we need to help all sorts of people in our community. I agree with you in terms of showing support for the folks that are suffering worse. I believe that we must show solidarity with them as well. Just because we focus our effort on one family does not mean we don't need a world view. I just have a problem with the fact that people on this thread don't think these folks are having a hard time just because they are in America and they have the "opportunities".  @arahat-- Thanks for your agreement in this topic. Any status update on how these families are doing in Houston?

doctorbee · Nov 20, 2009 12:12 PM

I think that was quite a big destruction there in Texas. I think we should do whater we can to help them. I was hasitatant at first just to donate to any institution, but i think Neplease Association of Texas would be a fair place for making donation haina?? I hope no one got physically jurt in that incident. On the x-tra note: Guys don't waste your time responding to this blingbling or dingdong, he's a "nut job". some "rebel without a clue" thing is going on with this kid with less understanding bout things and more of frustrations. Just ignore this moron, and eventually he'll dissapear. Do not respond to him, that's what i would do.

Poon-Hill · Nov 20, 2009 2:57 PM