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 उपत्यका बन्द र नेवार !!!!

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Posted on 06-01-09 9:37 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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उपत्यका बन्द र नेवार!!!!


नेवा राज्यको माग गर्दै गरिएको भनिएको उपत्यका बन्द र बन्दकर्ताहरुको चर्तिकलाबाट आज म जस्ता धेरै नेवारहरुको शिर निहुरेको छ। नेवार के हो भन्ने थाहा नभएका लुच्चाहरुले भाषा र जातिको गुच्चा  खेलिरहेका छन।


सदभावको शान्ता तलाउमा भाषा र जाती नामक दुई ढुंगा प्रहार गर्दा तरंगिने तरङ्गहरु अन्य नामधारी प्रहार भन्दा हजरौं गुणा ठुलो हुन्छ । त्यसमाथि कुण्ठा, असफलताको आक्रोश जोडीदा अझ घातक हुने हुन्छ ।


हो भाषा र सुमुदाय प्रती  म गर्ब गर्छु । गौरबशाली ईतिहास छ, बैभवशाली कला संस्क्रिती छ ।
नेवार समुदाय कहिलेइ हिंस्रक र बिध्वंसकारी भएको थिएन, हुने छैन । तर आजको बन्दको फोटो हेर्नु भयो भने त्यो सत्य असत्य भएको पाउनु हुने छ । प्रेस माथि आक्रमण, फलफूल बजार भित्र लूट्पाट। सवारि साधनहरुको तोड्फोड।


फोटोहरु नियालेर हेरें , दोहर्‍याइ हेरें । नेवार समुदायको अनुहार नै नयाँ नेपाल मा नयाँ भैसकेको हो कि वा मैले आफ्नै दाजु भाई नचिनेको हुँ अलमल मा परें। अधिकांश अनुहारहरु आयातित छन, आततायी छन।


कही सत्ता गुम्न गएको, भत्ता खुम्चिएको आक्रोश नेवार मुकुण्डोधारी जंगलिहरु को झुण्ड त होइनन, सोचनिय छ ।


बन्द र बन्दकर्ता दुबै मुर्दाबाद।


 
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Posted on 06-02-09 1:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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जात-जातीको आधारमा राज्य-विभाजन गर्ने तर्क आफैले नै नेवार एक सिङ्गो स्वायत्त प्रदेश नभई अनेक नेवार जातको आ-आफ्नै स्वायत्त प्रदेश हुनुपर्ने माँग स्वत: उत्पन्न हुन्छ ।


तलको तालिका हेरेर अहिले नै कतिवटा र पछि काटमार बढ्दै गएपछि कतिवटा स्वायत्त प्रदेश राख्‍नपर्ने हो, आफै निर्धारण गर्नुहोस् ।


 



 


Nepe


 
Posted on 06-02-09 1:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hopefully larger sized table..


नेवारी तल्लो जात माथिल्लो जात प्रणाली:


 



 
Posted on 06-02-09 2:05 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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When will all of us Nepalese will get a wake up call to realise that we are all Nepalese. Who disintegrated our ethinical harmony? Was it all those dirty politicians who is disintegrating us? All those political (infact all dirty politicians) taught all communities and ethenic group to disintegrate on the base of family or communal harmony. They taught the people political ideology and broke the social ro cultural harmony that we used to have. Why people are shy to say that they are Nepalese first rather than Maoist, UML, NC, MJF, sadbhawan???


 


Who are to blame?


 


Aren't we all, Nepalese first?????


 
Posted on 06-02-09 2:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Wots ur point Nepe, I dun hab time to read your entire thesis. Git to the point.


llllyaamooo lekhdaina..... chotkari ma bayan garaaaa.


 
Posted on 06-02-09 3:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think his point is "IT IS STUPID" and if you think it is right you are too.

 
Posted on 06-02-09 6:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yes,  Americanboy ! my point is that the idea of “ethnic federalism” [dividing the country among major ethnicities and giving them special privileges like ‘first right’ to rule (primacy, अग्राधिकार), power to impose their language and culture in the respective state and so on] is neither desirable nor possible in a country like ours where more than 100 ethnicities and thousands castes, sub-castes, clans and other divisions live intermingled with each other.


Ethnic federalism will not only not solve the existing problems but will engender new problems like multi-directional ethnic tension and conflicts.


On the other hand, an ethnically secular statehood with provisions for proportional representation of all social groups in politics and affirmative actions for the marginalized groups and so on, which actually are already showing positive effects (the unprecedented representation of diverse ethnicities and groups in the Constituent Assembly, a case in point) looks promising to address the existing problem of exclusion and unequal advantages.


Yetti ho. I might be able to explain it better if you share your views.


 


Nepe


 
Posted on 06-02-09 7:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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when Pakistan was separating from India on the religion basis, Punjabi also deserved a separate nation based on religion and history. but, they fought and fought several times, but were not heard.

Nepal is going to federalism now, whether you accept or not, we need some sort of federalism, although we don't need autonomous states. Newar also need a state based on their culture and language. therefore, I support the demand of Newar now. but, i think this kind of bandha-hadtal is completely unnecessary. since Newar from all big three parties organised the bandha, they should have put pressure directly on their respective parties instead of coming to street this way.

bandha-hadtal nagari kehi kuro sunne chalan nai chhaina sarkar ko, ani kina nagarun bandha Newar le.
 
Posted on 06-02-09 8:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Someone was saying... saale Mohan Vaidya is a newar, a chief leader of Maoists...

That's not true... he is bahun, not a newar at all. His father or grandfather used to be vaidya baje in the village.. and that's how they adopted "Vaidya" as a surname. Know the fat, before you jump over something.

 
Posted on 06-02-09 8:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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CTal,


तल नेपालका ५९ जनजातीहरुको लिष्ट छ ।


५९ वटा त जनजातीय राज्य चाहिने भयो । गैरजनजातिय राज्यहरुको कुरा अहिले छाडौं । अब ५९ वटा राज्य खडा कसरी गर्ने हो ? होईन, त्यसमध्ये केहीलाई मात्र राज्य दिने हो भने, एकचोटी यो लिस्ट सर्सर्ती हेरेर कसकसलाई राज्य दिने, कसकसलाई नदिने छुट्याईदिम् त साथी । त्यसो भए पछि यो मुद्धा टुंगिन्छ ।


 


List of Indigenous Nationalities of Nepal       


Categories of Indigenous Nationalities of Nepal:


 


ADVANCED GROUPS


Newar


Thakali


 


DISADVANTAGED GROUPS


Chhairotan


Tanbe


Tingaunle Thakali


BaragaunleThakali


Marphali Thakali


Gurung


Magar


Rai


Limbu


Sherpa


Yakkha


Chhantyal


Jirel


Byansi


Yolmo


 


MARGINALIZED GROUPS


Sunuwar


Tharu


Tamang


Bhujel


Kumal


Rajbangshi


Gangaai


Dhimal


Bhote


Darai


Tajpuriya


Pahari


Topkegola


Dolpo


Fri


Mugal


Larke


Lohpa


Dura


Walung


 


HIGHLY MARGINALIZED GROUPS


Majhi


Siyar


Shingsha


Thudam


Dhanuk


Chepang


Santhal


Jhagad


Thami


Bote


Danuwar


Baramu


 


ENDANGERED GROUPS


Kusunda


Bankariya


Raute


Surel


Hayu


Raji


Kisan


Lepcha


Meche


Kuswadiya


 


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Posted on 06-02-09 9:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepe guru, ma jasto federalism ko "f" pani nabujheko ko fuchche lai challenge dinu bhayena ni. maile ta ke bhaneko bhane major ethnic group and language should also be considered when you go for federalism.
 
Posted on 06-02-09 9:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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However, Mohan Vaidya is not a NEWAR.. he is a pure BahuN

 
Posted on 06-03-09 5:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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उस्ले भन्छ म हुँ मदेशी, तेस्ले भन्छ म हुँ पहाडी, अनी कस्ले भन्ने म नेपाली ?


 
Posted on 06-03-09 8:53 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Nepal ko area ra population ko hisab ma ek jana lai approx. 5,000 sq m. bhag lagcha. Malai chahi mero eklai ko swayatta chhetra chahiyo 5,000 sq m. ko - tyo pani ring road bhitra kathmandu kai chahiyo. MicroFederalism jindabaad.
 
Posted on 06-03-09 9:34 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Harey ke bhako yo Nepe lai,


You want to divide the country into tiny lil peices ?  What are you smoking Nepe ?  If we go your way Nepal as we know will cease to exist.  Jhan Unite garney ta kahaa kahaa jhan divide garna khojcha,   ke bhanney yestoo manchey lai. YESTAA KUBUDDHI EXPERT HARU SAAB KE SAAB AAFU LEY AFAILAI MAPAI BHANDAI HIDCHA RA YESTO ULTOO ULTOOO SUJHAAB DINCHAN KE GARNEY.  


This way India can feast on Nepal, one peice at a time. Wah wah wah GREAT THINKING NEPE THE GREAT clap clap clap.  PUT NEPAL AND NEPALI UNITY FIRST


 
Posted on 06-03-09 10:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think it is going to be hard for Nepalese of all kinds to feel as one one.  We were taught not to touch the untouchables, respect the brahmins etc etc but now I see where Nepal is headed.  I have seen rai's talking smack about bahuns in the US ( on some rai/magar parade), Sherpas having an ill feeling towards all nepali jats except their own, newars speaking newari to show solidarity, bahuns thinking they are the superior human....and a lot of these are widely practised in the US


We can sit in our comfy chairs, air conditioned houses and talk high but in Nepal its a whole new game, things are manipulated, emotions played with to profit the needs of the party.  So I just hope people change in time before we see the "divide and rule"


 
Posted on 06-03-09 10:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mucho,


That kind of discrimination is spread world wide, not just in Nepal. Look at the stellar pillar of modern day democracy US of A.  Blacks are still looked upon as having low level intelligence than others, Italians are still looked upon and band of thugs, Irish still looked upon as drunken hooligans.  If you look at England, it is the same and even more complicated. They have the Scotts, the Nothern Irish, Wales etc. etc. Even in India they have southern & nothern Indians, Punjabis, Nagaland, Biharis, Tamils etc etc.  In Singapore they are all kinds of people living togather from Chinese, Indian, Thai, Indonesian, Japnese etc etc.   SO IF THEY CAN DO IT SO CAN WE.  EACH ETHNIC GROUP WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME SACRIFICES AND COMPROMISES IF WE WANT TO STAY NEPALI.  HOINA SABAI JANA MAAI HUU BHANDAI HIDYO BHANEY NEPAL WILL BE STUCK WHERE WE ARE FOREVER.    


 
Posted on 06-03-09 11:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Somebody want's to divide us and rule.........

 
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Barhroom,


Although you seem to be on weed yourself to understand me exactly opposite of what I have been advocating (I am against ethnic division of Nepal !), I am glad to see that you share my view.


In fact, I would like to applaud you for this very sensible take, particularly when an umbrella organization of various Janajati groups of Nepal in America (Federation of Indigenous Peoples of Nepal in America (FIPNA)) is advocating for ethnic division of Nepal.


Just two months ago, there was a talk program in New York, A panelist, Dr. Lawoti, was advocating for ethnic division of Nepal.


News and presentations:


http://www.usnepalonline.com/new-york-nepalese-community-news/federalism-in-nepal-event-in-new-york.html


 


Here is Dr. Lawoti’s scheme for federal division, (taken from an older presentation)


http://www.mirestnepal.org.np/upload/files/Federalism.NFDN.lawoti.ppt


 


 



 
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Forget why Nepal bhandas or for what cause.. it does not matter.....

At least, the environment looked so clean during these bandas.. at least people got on efree day to breathe clean air....



 
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  okies..this is so so ridiculous....why shud newars want their newa rajya..or watever...isn't it that nepal literally means newars..entire country is u'rs...whatever or most of nepal is due to newars for the most part..I dunno why newars are kept in janah jatti..when they r most cultured and advanced of all races that exist...their civilization has flourished and peaked during 16th and 17th century..then came shah and ranas and totally ruined it...i can't remember of anything good they did....unite ta garyo kya rey tara...subbai lai suppress garera rakhyoo..agree newars were denied their linguistic rights and khas language was forced on to them..and yeah politics and all ma they dun have good representative ..but it's their all fault..all newars r bg eating chwela and playing tash in their house...I haven't seen really many newars in julush..i guess newars r the worst when it comes to politics...they r too laid back...lah..khana pugeko cha..julush ma k janu...chu yau chu yau...ani bhutra ko desh bancha...subb bhandhi sichit barga ko manchey haru to taal yesto cha..ani ta subb corrupt politicans le desh chalako cha...baaki asikchit janta lai brain wash garna derai sajilo cha...maney..hamro yo plan ho panii...haina pani..bhanera aouncha...
  aba khai bandha hudtaal le ahile summah khai kunni kasko problem solve gareko cha? this is so so reidiculous..k khana bandha gareko..ra kasle bandha gareko? subbai party ko support bahyeko bandha re...ani kasko against ma bandha teso bahyeah? jau newar daju bhai ghar ma jau..ani tash khelaah...ani chwela bajji khau....

note: i am drunk...lol..i am jhyapu ..promise...

 



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