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Posted on 04-25-06 12:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Koirala unanimously nominated for PM's post

Kantipur Report

KATHMANDU, April 25 - The meeting of the seven-party alliance (SPA) on Tuesday unanimously nominated Nepali Congress President Girija Prasad Koirala for the post of The Prime Minister.
 
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Posted on 04-25-06 10:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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DemRepNepal

is a fool.....what a thing to say....

I will take corrupt leaders over killer raja anyday



You dont think Grija or other leaders haven't had anyone executed...you live in a glass house.

Politics is dirty...but what has happend to day is shit was piled on more shit....that is the motto of nepal

Shit happens so lets shit again....
 
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ear All,


Saw this movie 'Rang de Basanti". It may sound funny but sincerely,
after childhood days, for the first time I really got inspired by a
movie. I really started to think about Nepal and the political crisis
continuing. Lack of interest in country's system and adequate patriotism
prevails in Nepal too, I felt that. That doesn't imply that the solution
is to kill someone as shown in the movie. I tried to see within myself,
what is my contribution? Found its ok, I am studying and becoming a
manpower for the nation. But went through the news from Nepal and this
time I could not satisfy myself. Going regular is not enough; felt that.
It's high time for each of us to try to do something more than the
regular! On the process, what can I do at most now, I found I can share
my understanding of the crisis to my friends and then forward it to
maximum Nepalese as far as

possible. There might be various view points on that between us. This is
one amongst them.



PLZ READ IT ONCE. GIVE A SECOND THOUGHT ON THAT. AND IF YOU DONT AGREE,
IT'S YOUR RIGHT NOT TO . BUT I BELEIVE MANY OF YOU WHO'LL READ THIS MAIL
WILL CERTAINLY GET CLEAR ABOUT MANY THINGS. And in due course, I'd be
grateful to get your opinions as well. This way we can interact and start
to think about the country more seriously. UNTIL AND UNLESS WE START A
STEP, NO THING BIG WOULD BE ACHIEVABLE. Believing on this, I am sharing
my opinion.



"As we see the situation in Nepal, anyone would think that the problem
lies between the King, seven Political parties, and Maoists. And why?
What each of them wants? We'd find answers for that also. One may say
political parties want full-fledged democracy. Similarly Maoists want the
communism, and King wants to reestablish Panchayat or something like that
in other form. It may sound weird to you at first, but I see this crisis
in completely other way. This is not any kind of conflict between
Nepalese themselves. This is something between India and Nepal. It's a
grand and interesting game. At the same time, highly challenging for both
the states.



Every one of us knows the Indian approach of trying to dominate others,
especially the neighboring countries. Defense and foreign affairs related
decisions of Bhutan are directly handled by India. Nothing new about it,
right? Which country in the SAARC except Bhutan is happy with India?
Forget SAARC, what about other neighbors? China? Burma? Mentioning these
issues just to rethink on India's foreign policies! Now let us go to
what's there between India and Nepal? Care to see it thru big brother's
side. India 's average economic growth rate has reached around 7.5% which
is one of the best in world today. India is second largest market in the
world in terms of population. Foreigners are seeing China and India as
the new markets of this age and investing here rapidly. Bottom line is-
India is developing. But how long people will invest in India if basic
infrastructure is not there? How much investments would be there in
Agricultural industry if outsiders don't see basic irrigation facilities
in the field? In other way, when other area is developing, what about
large Indian farmer population? When they'll prosper if irrigation is not
there? And most importantly, energy is vital for all development-
industries, technology and everything. India is not capable of producing
the required amount. India has successfully taken control over Bhutan's
energy resources and already started to have the benefit. Bhutan is also
getting something out of it but in cost of sovereignty.

Now comes Nepal's part. Nepal is second richest in water resource having
potential of large amount of energy. Enough energy to cater India's
energy need for industrialization and irrigation and clean drinking water
for eastern India (perhaps more than that). For that, India can have
straight business deals with Nepal. Take it if u want, but please pay.
But no! India wants all those in the way they got from Bhutan. They want
to have total control in any hydro projects that'll be build in Nepal.
They want to give us something out of it- lot less value than what we
deserve. Since history India has been trying for this and as it was
obvious for them to get refusal. In the mean time, foreigners wanted to
invest in Hydro projects in Nepal. But India always fumed and fretted for
any manipulation in rivers will lead to flood in India. So, all the big
projects were cancelled. India didn't stop. They wanted to get the
resources according to their desire. When Nepal refused, they came into
games with long vision. What I interpret the game could possibly be as
such- Change the non cooperative government of Nepal. Keep people in
power that will be ready to sell the resources of the country fro some
money. And if required, will be ready to sell the whole country. India
knew that until and unless royal family is in power, it's not possible.
This is because for the royals, Nepal is the only place in the world
where they will get highest degree of respects and they'd never sell the
country. For that, India played the key role to instill democracy in 2046
and implant corrupted people in the government. According to the plan,
some leaders of ours sold out rivers and lands during the 15 years. That
we all know.



Now India could not depend only on those dogs. For that, how to make
Nepal completely helpless in shortest period? So that Nepal will come
down on the ground with knees. There won't be any other option remaining
for Nepal and finally turn towards India and beg them to utilize our own
resources, and give some riots two feed Nepalese twice a day. Attack on
the source of economy was the simplest route towards Nepal's bring down.
And then something happened out of blues. Maoists were born in western
Nepal which is the hub of ayurvedic medicine and one of Nepal's major
exports. The area is still under Maoists control and no one knows how
much of yarshagumba is smuggled from there every year. Country's revenue
is going in vain. And let us recall, it was Girija's tenure and whole
Nepal knows how Maoists flourished in no time. Besides that, major
objective of giving birth to Maoists was to attack the spinal of Nepal's
economy- tourism. And things happened accordingly. Nepal broke and got
trapped into the crisis we r seeing today.



Now please don't doubt on who gave birth to Maoists. India was the first
to call Maoists as terrorists when Nepal government was still calling it
as insurgents. After that, US hit listed Maoists of Nepal in top ten
among the world terrorists. Nepal government never called them terrorists
those days. And in many cases, we have seen Maoists leader making rounds
to Delhi in the same fashion as Girija and his daughter. The recent
meeting between the parties and Maoists leaders occurred in Delhi. How
could India arrange the facility when Maoists are terrorists? Do they
want to send a message that Lashkar-e-taiba should be entertained by
governments of various nations? And surprisingly, nowadays Indian media
do not right the word "terrorists" for Nepalese Maoists. The respected
word given by them these days is " Nepal rebel". This is all happening
because of the slavish mentality India possesses due to 200 years of
British rule. Anyways, now let us come to the major issue. After knowing
all these, I m not in a condition to agree that the dispute in Nepal is
for democracy. What I believe is it is for nationality. It is for saving
the nation. It is for raising the nation with what we have. It is for
replying back to all

those who try to play with us. Now, it's up to your intellect to identify
who is working for what. What King is doing, parties are doing, and
Maoists are doing. It'll be a very appreciable opinion if you say what
those pancheys are doing again here? We should not forget that democracy
is nature's law. When you are born, you come along with your freedom. No
force can stop u for that. Let's see the cause and what's happening
around. Democracy within the boundary is so important? Or democracy in a
country will be there when a country will b there? Let all Nepalese get
together and stop the external force for some time when Nepal will try to
lift up in a position from where no force would be able to bring it down.
Democracy is always there. When Nepalese can change the government in
2046, same Nepalese can change the government again in 2066. And if
required, forever free Nepalese could change the system around the world.
We don't have to doubt in our capability. But the current need is not
"restore democracy" as India is saying. Current need for each and every
Nepali is to "save and raise the nation". When US envoy to India made one
statement related to India's internal politics last week, whole India
shouted back to the ambassador. This is something good we need to learn
from Indians. When India, and other far away nations are repeatedly
trying to interfere our internal matter, our corrupted media (do I have
to name the media which have bosses of Non Nepalese origins? Or u find it
yourself) is not tired of singing their songs everyday. These Medias are
responsible for creating a pessimistic environment in the nation. People
are not protesting those external interferences which are vital in
present. Restoring democracy is not the issue as far as I understand.
What if democracy is restored tomorrow immediately? Same old faces who
tried to help the neighbor more than own country itself will be back to
power. And the process of losing the nation's independency which has been
stopped temporarily through king's move will get momentum again. But if
Nepal and Nepalese succeeds to pause that external force for some more
time, its strength will be minimized. Many things can happen within few
years. Zest is- country first! Now, If you don't agree on this, I m open
to have your opinion. If you feel that there is some logic in what I have
said, please forward it to as many Nepalese as possible. There is nothing
good happening to you within 24 hours or 3 days or 1 week or so forth.
But only God knows, long term benefits could be there.



Thank you



Nepali Citizen




regards'
honest citizen
KTM,Nepal
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The 7 partys secret future plans for NEPAL, Lemme break it down a lil....

Ok, Girija, it's your turn to be PM again,
In couple of months, we will break up into 7 different partys again,
UML will fight for their rights of the democracy movement again,
We will seperate people into congress and communist party again,
We will do MORE NEPAL BANDHS AND STRIKES AGAIN,
WE WILL BREAK MORE BUILDINGS AND BURN CARS, TIRES, BUSES AGAIN,
WE WILL VANDALIZE THE WHOLE KTM, ACTUALLY WHY NOT WHOLE NEPAL AGAIN,
WE WILL LET MOAISTS DO WATEVER THEY WANT AGAIN,
WE WILL JACK THE FOREIGN AID AGAIN,
WE WILL PUT ALL OUR PEOPLE IN THE GOV. JOBS AGAIN,
IN THE END WE WILL LET THE KING TAKE POWER AGAIN,

THE SAME PROCESS BEGINS AGAIN.....

WE 7 PARTYS WON'T SUFFER, WE AIN'T GOT JACK SHIT TO DO---- LET OUR BELOVED NEPALI PEOPLE FIGHT AND DIE ON THE STREETS.....

THAT'S WHAT THE RECENT 7 PARTYS MEETING WAS ABOUT.

U HEARD ME??? ALL YOU DUMBASSES 7 PARTYS...DIDN'T YOU DISCUSS ALL THESE.

MY LAST QUESTION FROM MY SIDE IS....WHY GIRIJA AGAIN?????? SOMEBODY CHECK HIS BKGROUND. WAT HAPPEN TO GARUDA AIR KANDA, COUPLE OF RIVERS WHICH HE SOLD TO INDIA.....
 
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oh please...asti samma sabai jana was like...oh gyane should leave this and that.......what the heck were you expecting, who do you think would have the next PM....US, India, would never let, makune be the PM, Girija and makune would never let Sher bahadur to be the PM........so what the f*********.....back to square one, Girija PM...we all faking deserve this, this is what we get for wanting democracy......and if anyone is expecting things to get better now...forget it...there has already been a clash between 7SPA and maobadi...now nakabandi.....
 
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People there will be no democracy in Nepal ... it is after all Peopl'e Republic of Nepal or is it still a Kingdom of Nepal ... it's one or the other!!
 
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i think when ever ppl think abt democracy they only think abt currupted leaders they never see the good side of democracy after democracy the literacy rate in nepal went way up frm 27% to 47% and the standard of living of nepali changed dramatically and the economic progress what abt all these
i think a leader should be chosen because of their leadership qualities and their hard work not just b/c they were born into a family. regardless of wht u all say girija has worked hard to be in this position and i support this system and if we want to progress as a nation we have to have democracy.
there is no point in having a king in this day and age. besides these kings r more corrupted then any politicians. countless # of ppl they have killed they couldnt protect their ppl frm ranas who killed several of our grandparents and great grandparents they have no talent no brains bunch of assholes who ppl think should be respected and acceped as a great leader b/c they were born into a family. really sad how ppl can think that.
 
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- Umesh Ji, of mero sansar have written that there is rumor in KTM that Girija is thinking of not taking PM post due to health reason.

This would be a positive news for democratic front, this move will so leaders are serious about democracy this time.

I mean can you imagine Girija giving away PM post.

But anyway let us not speculate much, wait and see what happens in Khulamanch tomorrow.
 
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Ha ha... tyo ta halla ta ho ni.... lobhi Girija le pani PM banna nai bhanchha?

IEven if he is damn sick, he will still become PM, so that he can die PM. Do you guys understand that????
 
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I just read the news, he is too sick re... yasto marnai atya bela ma ni kina PM hunu parya ni.

Bekar PM bhayera bholi palta chait bhaidiyo bhane tension. Surukka Madav Nepal lai diye bhai halyo ni, huna ta pheri America le communist bhanera na manne hola.

Tara actually UML is not communist they are socialist, I see their members ideology equvalent to extreme left Democrats.

They are just hanging on to communist name to capture their lower middle class and lower class vote bank.
 
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Why Koirala? ha ha.. very simple to understand... All other SPA leaders want him to Die soon.... that;s why they are compelling him to become PM.. and this time Girija gonna quit from the World.
 
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I am sorry i shoudl not be talking that way about 84-year old Girija... supposed to be respecting him for his age.. but well, he never did one thing right in his whole 84 year of living.. so it's nonsense to thik that he will do something better now.. IMPOSSIBLE.

How can we expect anything good coming out of this old crap who indulged in Stupid actions? Hune Biruwa ko chillo paat..... are you all guys still think this old crap budho has that chillo paat at this late age??? think about it... The whole idea of thinking him as a leader is Bakwas...
 
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shuvachintak, are khanda kabyas allowed on sajha??
 
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Koirala taken ill
US ambassador to Nepal, James F. Moriarty (file photo)
Newly appointed Prime Minister GP Kiorala (file photo)

The health of Nepali Congress president and newly appointed Prime Minister, Girija Prasad Koirala, is quite critical, his party colleagues said.

Talking to reporters at Koirala’s residence at Maharajgunj on Thursday evening, Nepali Congress spokesman Krishna P Sitaula said Koirala has been placed under ventilator to facilitate his respiration.

85-year-old Koirala has been suffering from respiration-related ailments for the past few years.

His Majesty King Gyanendra appointed Koirala as the new prime minister this evening. He is expected to be administered oath of office at 9:30 a. m. on Friday. He will then have to lead the treasury benches at the first session of the reinstated House of Representatives at 1:00 p. m.

Sitaula, however, said whether Koirala would be able to take oath of office would depend on the advice of the doctors who will examine him again on Friday morning.

A group of physicians, led by Dr. Madhu Ghimire, has been examining Koirala on a regular basis.

Koirala was unable to participate in the “victory rally and mass meeting” organized by the seven party alliance at Tundikhel in Kathmandu Friday afternoon due to ill health. nepalnews.com by Apr 27 06
 
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and..this is to hamro royalist bro, pasu. how can you still not get it. how can you still choose a monarchy over democracy. democracy is the only form of government that is cohescent with the human nature. having a monarch as the head is like a dictatorship, that is centralisation of the power, the worse of all. i would choose a bunch of corrupt leaders over 'shah' regime any given day. its way better than having a single power hungry leader.
 
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jaagir khojda khojda hairan bhaisake. in case there will be a job opening, can I apply for the next PM?
 
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Hoina kina yo marnai attya Giddhe budo ko bui chadera ganatantra lyaunu parne bhanya?

If he is not well enough to be PM let him rest. Ke Nepal ma Girija bahek aru koi PM huna layak chainan? Budo marne bela ma ta ananda le ghar baseara politics garnu, ani aru koi naya generation lai desh chalauna dinu ni.

Girija le ta mare pachi pani PM ko post chodla jasto chaina, bhoot bhayera auncha hola kursi ma basna
 
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Prajatantra Mitra
Mind your language hai. He is my beloved one.
 
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He is a elected candidate by the people. so we have to give him benefit of doubt
 
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Dibya Ji,

He might be your loved one, tara he is my hated one. I do not think he is a good politician, He hung on with just his Koirala name ... nothing else.... BP himself told "girija can not be anything more that hawaldar" and thats what he is... Why I do not think he is a good democratic leader?

- He is corrupt , or at least is indicted with corruption charges, so heshould not hold any public position until proven innocent

- He was the one who tried to bring army on street and impose curfew against UML protest during Madan Bhandari kanda

- He always talk about "grand design" but he never explains it, just uses that as a bargaining tool against palace. If he really knows what happened in palace that night then he should publicize. (I do not care about what happened though, for me it is plain and simple palace got punished by god for their supression against their subjects, they got what they deserve)

- He rules and lead his party as an autocrat, he was the reason for fall of 2 majority government of NC and also reason for NC's bad performance in 2nd election

- He never lets other people from other clan come up in NC, it always has to be Koirala clan.

Lastly, for me he is not a good and true leader, so doesnot deserver any respect as a leader. So F*** him I do not care if he dies, I will happy if he does at nepalese politics will head in new direction.

I KNOW I SHOULD RESPECT HIM IN TERMS OF AGE, BUT GIVEN HIS TRACK RECORD HE DOES NOT DESERVE THAT EITHER.
 
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prajatantra i agree.Dibya Raj Koirala don't support Girija just because he is your loved one.
Nation comes first.
 



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