5 questions to ask your friends who plan to get the Covid vaccine

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People may agree or disagree with these questions. They are merely their opinions just like this article is the opinion of the author https://off-guardian.org/2021/... ------------------------------------ Many of us have friends or family who plan on getting the vaccine. Maybe they truly believe they are in danger. Maybe they think it’s better safe than sorry. Maybe they just want to be able to go to the pub again. If you know someone who is planning on getting vaccinated against Covid19, ask them these five questions. Make sure they understand exactly what they’re asking for. 1. DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEVER SUCCESSFULLY VACCINATED AGAINST ANY CORONAVIRUS? No successful vaccine against a coronavirus has ever been developed. Scientists have been trying to develop a SARS and MERS vaccine for years, with nothing to show for it. In fact, some of the failed SARS vaccines actually caused hypersensitivity to the SARS virus. Meaning that vaccinated mice could potentially get the disease more severely than unvaccinated mice. 2. DID YOU KNOW IT USUALLY TAKES 5-10 YEARS TO FULLY DEVELOP A VACCINE? Vaccine development is a slow, laborious process. Usually, from development through testing and finally being approved for public use takes many years. The various vaccines for Covid have all been developed and approved in less than a year. While the media are quick to offer a TON of “explainer” guides, which cite “foresight, hard work and luck” as the reasons we got a Covid vaccine so quickly “without cutting corners”, they all leave out key information. Namely, that none of the vaccines have yet been subject to proper trials. Many of them skipped early-stage trials entirely, and the late stage human trials have either not been peer reviewed, have not released their data, will not finish until 2023 or were abandoned after “severe adverse effects”. 3. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE COVID “VACCINE” IS BASED ON NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR USE ON HUMANS BEFORE? While traditional vaccines work by exposing the body to a weakened strain of the microorganism responsible for causing the disease, these new Covid vaccines are mRNA vaccines. mRNA (messenger ribonucleic acid) vaccines theoretically work by injecting viral mRNA into the body, where it replicates inside your cells and encourages your body to recognise, and make antigens for, the “spike proteins” of the virus. They have been the subject of research since the 1990s, but before 2020 no mRNA vaccine was ever approved for use. 4. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES CAN’T BE SUED IF THE VACCINE HURTS OR KILLS SOMEONE? Back in the Spring of 2020 many governments around the world granted vaccine manufacturers immunity to civil liability, either by invoking existing legislation or writing new laws. The USA’s Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP) grants immunity until at least 2024. The EU’s product licensing law does the same, and there are reports of confidential liability clauses in the contracts the EU signed with vaccine manufacturers. The UK went even further, granting permanent legal indemnity to the government, and any employees thereof, for any harm done when a patient is being treated for Covid19 or “suspected Covid19”. 5. DID YOU KNOW 99.8% OF PEOPLE SURVIVE COVID19? The case-fatality ratio of Sars-Cov-2 infection has been a bone of contention for months, but it is certainly much lower than all the initial models predicted. It was originally massively inflated, with the WHO using a figure of 3.4%. Subsequent studies have found it to be much lower, in some cases even lower than 0.1%. A report published in October in the WHO’s own research bulletin finding a CFR of 0.23% “or possibly considerably lower”. Meaning, even according to the WHO, at least 99.77% of people infected with the virus will survive. * Ask your friends these questions. Give them detailed answers. It is a rushed and untested vaccine, made using unprecedented technology, with no legal recourse should it do you harm, to treat a virus 99.8% of people will survive. So the question that really matters is: Do you really want, or need, to take that risk?

p14nd3m1c · May 23, 2021 8:55 AM · 83,889 views

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Horrifying Bombshell! Connecticut Warns Moderna VAX Contains Deadly POISON HAFMay 19, 2021 Government advisory warns that the Gates-backed Moderna mRNA gene therapy contains SM-102 linked to cancer, infertility, death. This is only one of the hundreds of government advisories and university-backed studies clearly demonstrating that the medical system of the west has premeditatedly created these Frankenshots to maim and kill as part of the globalists’ ultimate ENDGAME of global depopulation. A fact sheet displaying COVID-19 vaccine ingredients shows the Moderna “shot” contains SM-102: According to a Cayman Chemicals safety data sheet on SM-102, published in April of 2021, the substance is “For research us only, not for human or veterinary use”: The safety data sheet also lists cancer, infertility, kidney, liver and central nervous system damage as possible health hazards: The vaccine ingredient is said to be “Fatal in contact with skin,” and “Toxic to aquatic life with long lasting effects”:

Jogesh · May 23, 2021 12:43 PM

Get lost man! Do you see how many people are dying in Nepal and everywhere. Your account need to be shut down!

RamkumarPoudel · May 23, 2021 2:27 PM

Please sajha admin ban this p14nd3.

Sanaklaal · May 23, 2021 4:01 PM

Yes please ban this p14nd3m1c aka Jogesh

gwachaquarian · May 23, 2021 5:16 PM

I feel like these two id is run by one person, and their all postings are about negativity of covid vaccine, and covid. They are free to express themselves, but they need to go volunteer in nepal hospital, if they don't believe so much. Some people are just so negative until their near, and dear ones die due to covid complication.

Euta_nepali · May 23, 2021 6:39 PM

P14nd3m1c = Jogesh = Nas ??

ujl · May 23, 2021 6:57 PM

Are you guys really this clueless? I have never ever said covid is not dangerous. Maybe Jogesh says its not dangerous. We are two separate people. I keep saying that my posts are about questioning the vaccines. If you have any questions about what I posted, we can discuss it. Everyone has a right to express their opinions. Jogesh I support your right to express your opinions but I appreciate if you could post in your own thread unless they are related. My posts tend to be more verified information or truly opinions.

p14nd3m1c · May 23, 2021 7:39 PM

I agree with ujl.

Sanaklaal · May 23, 2021 7:39 PM

Sankalal you said “ Please sajha admin ban this p14nd3” Why are you asking me to be banned? Can you let me know what bothers you? Do you believe in covid vaccines 100% and want rest of the world to believe in it too blindly without even asking a question about it?

p14nd3m1c · May 23, 2021 7:47 PM

So you are saying, we should believe to the posts from "p14nd3m1c" just because he/she/it copy pasted a few posts from some (random) sites? When we dont even know your real name or if you are a real person - how/why do I believe you? As the other posters mentioned, you could well be one of the any existing posters on a different name. The credibility of you and your posts are like your username "p14nd3m1c" - what the hell do i make with that.

lazyketa · May 24, 2021 8:39 AM

Lazyketa. This is not about me. This is about the things I share. Do you find anything wrong with the content I share? Lets discuss ideas. Why don’t you point out what is wrong with the points I have shared. Last edited: 24-May-21 08:46 AM

p14nd3m1c · May 24, 2021 8:47 AM

Have you first handed experience the COVID? Is anyone close to you affected by it? This will be my last post to this thread or any of your threads, I am not in a mood discussing with a person who believes Earth is flat for the sake of discussion.

lazyketa · May 24, 2021 8:56 AM

Yes I have had first hand experience of covid and my close friend/family have died. But that does not mean the vaccine is effective. In fact I have had vaccinated friends suffer from long covid attack. Again, I believe that covid is dangerous But that does not mean you have to blindly believe that this emergency use authorization vaccines work the best for this cause. You are dramatizing if you think this is like saying earth is flat.

p14nd3m1c · May 24, 2021 9:23 AM

Jogesh · May 24, 2021 12:01 PM

Pandemic, I have been following your posts and I agree with you that the vaccine is questionable at this point. Most people are only getting news from commercial media whose goal is to promote vaccination. People should be aware of things and do their own research on your postings.

Dorje Tsering · May 24, 2021 12:02 PM

Not trying to be judgmental but, I don't believe character like Jogesh and p14nd3m1c here in Sajha is qualified to evaluate the risk of the vaccine in any shape or form. THEY ARE NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. They are trying to change someone's opinion based on their prejudice. I believe in freedom of speech and expression, but at the same time, I don't think it's ethical to be constantly negative about the vaccine in social media without any substantial evidence. Someone said "If you lie constantly, that lie one day will become truth".There are people out there who believes everything they see in social media is true. I urge admin to be more vigilant to the sensitive issues like this. These conspiracy theorists are tearing up the fabric of our society with their biased opinions. This is how you breed the culture of false belief and disobedience in the society. Recent example is a capitol insurrection fueled by conspiracy theory. Lastly, to all the conspiracy theorist out there; If you feel that the COVID-19 vaccine is the only means to control the global population, think again. Spoiler alert !! Government don't have to rely on vaccines. There are other alternatives like drinking water, food supplies, over the counter medications like Tylenol, Advil, etc. Trust me, they won't make it so obvious.....hahaha.

rockey07 · May 24, 2021 2:34 PM

Not sure what to tell you when you come blazing in with your own prejudice to not even listen to common sense. The things I have posted are common sense stuff that you can think about. I can only speak for myself. I cannot speak for other users like Jogesh who is free to post his ideas. Let's discuss ideas if you want. What do you have reservations with among the 5 questions? Furthermore, my posts are not forcing you to think in any one way. Simply to think about it. If you do not want to think about it then you should not be reading my posts  1. DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEVER SUCCESSFULLY VACCINATED AGAINST ANY CORONAVIRUS? 2. DID YOU KNOW IT USUALLY TAKES 5-10 YEARS TO FULLY DEVELOP A VACCINE?3. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE COVID “VACCINE” IS BASED ON NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR USE ON HUMANS BEFORE?4. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES CAN’T BE SUED IF THE VACCINE HURTS OR KILLS SOMEONE?5. DID YOU KNOW 99.8% OF PEOPLE SURVIVE COVID19?

p14nd3m1c · May 24, 2021 3:28 PM

To be honest, I have found pandemic's postings to be thought provoking. There are examples of many things in history where a bunch of people are profiting off people by spreading wrong information. I doubt Pandemic is making any profit out of it compared to trillions in profit made by the vaccine manufacturers. I think it's the same person with multiple username that are trying to attack pandemic's ideas.

Dorje Tsering · May 24, 2021 3:52 PM

1. DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEVER SUCCESSFULLY VACCINATED AGAINST ANY CORONAVIRUS? -Two human coronavirus appeared after 2000. Vaccine development are in progress. SARS outbreak in 2003 caused almost 9000 people to suffer while less than 1000 died. MERS outbreak has 2500 cases and less than 1000 deaths as of 2021. 2. DID YOU KNOW IT USUALLY TAKES 5-10 YEARS TO FULLY DEVELOP A VACCINE? -May be even more. depending on the research progress, funding, emergency and significance of the virus. 3. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE COVID “VACCINE” IS BASED ON NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR USE ON HUMANS BEFORE? - mRNA technology has been in progress for decades. mRNA technology does not have to be approved. By the way, mRNA vaccine technology has already produced drugs for cancer immunotherapy which has been approved by FDA., Did you know that? Go search. 4. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES CAN’T BE SUED IF THE VACCINE HURTS OR KILLS SOMEONE? That's until 2024 because of the provision introduced by government. But guess what, Pfizer CEO also can't sue his company if get's hurt or dies because of the vaccine he has received. 5. DID YOU KNOW 99.8% OF PEOPLE SURVIVE COVID19? -That is still ~3.5 million deaths in just over a year. And many survivor has long term or life long damage to their health even after recovery.

bbmb · May 24, 2021 4:42 PM

"mRNA technology has been in progress for decades. mRNA technology does not have to be approved. By the way, mRNA vaccine technology has already produced drugs for cancer immunotherapy which has been approved by FDA., Did you know that? Go search." This technology has been studied for a while but mrna vaccines has never been approved till Covid vaccine, and even this approval is not a full FDA approval as it's only emergency use authorization. The technology may have been used for drugs but never as a vaccine. Hope you do your research to clarify. "That's until 2024 because of the provision introduced by government. But guess what, Pfizer CEO also can't sue his company if get's hurt or dies because of the vaccine he has received." It does not matter if the CEO can sue or not. Who can really verify is the CEO gets the vaccine or not? The fact is companies are liable for their products. Car companies get sued for bad cars. Medicine companies get sued if their medicine cause side effects or deaths. But vaccine companies are above the law. So which means they do not have the urgency or the need to make sure the vaccines are safe. Good to have a healthy discussion instead of people coming off like attack dogs of the vaccine industry attacking anyone who questions the vaccines. So thank you.

p14nd3m1c · May 24, 2021 5:38 PM

Why don't you make a single post with all of the vaccine threads? People can get all of the information they need (if they are interested) in one post. The first page of sajha is almost entirely packed with vaccine-related post when I open it.

aksshre · May 24, 2021 5:41 PM

p14nd3m1c. What you describe as a common sense may not be as simple as you think. Again, let me reiterate; YOU ARE NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. You do not have enough credential to deem the COVID-19 vaccine as inefficient. You are entitled to your opinion but your frequent post on Sajha is starting to sound like "beating a dead dog" to me. Although, I give you a standing ovation for you consistency on spreading your conspiracy theory on covid-19 vaccine. By the way, I read your post just for amusement. If I need to research something worthy of my time, I would read from someone with actual credential, not from someone who don't even have a real name. Now let's talk about the ideas. Full disclaimer: I am not a subject matter export on COVID-19 and anything discussed blow is just my personal opinion. 1. DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE NEVER SUCCESSFULLY VACCINATED AGAINST ANY CORONAVIRUS? Success can be subjective in times of pandemic. Although, the pandemic is not over yet, number of infection has gone down significantly. Vaccine doesn't promise to be 100% efficient but it can reduce the full effect of the infection. Consequently, less people will need to be hospitalized. 2. DID YOU KNOW IT USUALLY TAKES 5-10 YEARS TO FULLY DEVELOP A VACCINE? Coronaviruses didn’t just pop up recently. They’re a large family of viruses that have been around for a long time. Many of them can cause a variety of illnesses, from a mild cough to severe respiratory illnesses.With that being said, covid vaccine was not developed over night without an extended scientific data. Modern medicine has come a long way. 5-10 year is a basic requirement to study effect of vaccine. It is a rule set forth by different organizations to set the standard practice. Sometime 5-10 year development don't even mean anything. People can still get adverse effect from vaccine or medication even after 10 years. 3. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE COVID “VACCINE” IS BASED ON NEW TECHNOLOGY, WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN APPROVED FOR USE ON HUMANS BEFORE? There is always first time for everything. Just because it has not been approved, does not mean it is potentially harmful or even lethal. Refer to my answer above. 4. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES CAN’T BE SUED IF THE VACCINE HURTS OR KILLS SOMEONE? Welcome to the reality. If you don't know already by now, such practice is nothing out of ordinary. There is always an assumed risk on something that hasn't been fully researched. Just because they can't be sued does not mean they are intentionally trying to cause harm. To me it seems like they are just trying to cut down their liability on insurance and lawyer fees and other administrative huddles while leveraging on the crisis created by pandemic. After all they are just like any other corporates who runs on money. 5. DID YOU KNOW 99.8% OF PEOPLE SURVIVE COVID19? Not sure how precise is your claim but you need to be very careful when discussing statistic data. Data can be manipulated easily to fit one's narration. Putting data out in the general public can be very misleading. Statistic data is based on the sample size and a lot of the time sample size may not be the actual representation. To me, actual people are not data. I would rather look at the people to my left and to my right and decide. p14nd3m1c since you made me type this long reply, you owe me a lunch now....hahaha

rockey07 · May 24, 2021 6:01 PM

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rockey07 · May 24, 2021 6:38 PM

Rockey you are funny 🤣🤣😂😂 Last edited: 25-May-21 03:51 PM

Dorje Tsering · May 24, 2021 8:54 PM

Dorje Tsering I don't know who you are or why you thought it was necessary to call out my actual name publicly but good job on your effort (although any one could have figured out about me from my previous posts). Hope you feel better and give yourself a pat on your back. By the way, the only reason I posted the FB link above is because, I wanted to reveal how people like pandemic is copying ideas from different sources and be loud about it. I genuinely don't believe that this is his actual FB account looking at the profile. I said what I said. I just hope I didn't tick off anyone I know here in Sajha. But if you got offended with my post, I really can't help you...🤣🤣🤣 Last edited: 24-May-21 10:38 PM

rockey07 · May 24, 2021 10:30 PM

Rockey My posts in sajha are not to show my faith in one religion versus other. If I see a hole in the logic in any religion, I will bring it up. I see a lot of holes in the vaccination religion currently so I am bringing them up. You do not have to be a subject matter expert to share anything or express your opinion. According to you everyone should shut up and just let the subject matter expert speak. What kind of a sad life of servitude are you proposing?  You are free to keep re-repeating your faith in your subject matter expert but all throughout human history, we have seen many false prophets who were revered as subject matter experts until their human greed were exposed. So are you 100% sure that your subject matter expert can never make any mistake? Or that they do not have any greed to increase their bank account or to screw beautiful girls provided by people like Epstein? Many times people like you like to brush of anything that is beyond the media spun reality as conspiracy theory without even knowing what you are saying. "you consistency on spreading your conspiracy theory" Why don't you point out one thing that I have shared that is conspiracy theory.

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 6:24 AM

Subject matter expert lying https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Read some of the comments. People are becoming woke to these lying experts. You have to spend a lot of time in finding information not approved by media in order to know the truth. Most people don't have time to go beyond the mainstream media, which is fine. Last edited: 25-May-21 06:38 AM Another subject matter expert Bill Gates who pretty much owns the WHO with his grants, shares his thoughts on why he does not want to share the patents on vaccines with the world. The subject matter expert cares more about profits from vaccine patents than making sure the people all over the world are safe. The right thing to do at this point would be to save the people but no - the subject matter experts want to profit. Screw the people.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Last edited: 25-May-21 06:49 AM

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 6:38 AM

Top scientists shaken by revelations that Covid isn’t natural but a lab-made virus that ‘escaped’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 8:25 AM

This technology has been studied for a while but mrna vaccines has never been approved till Covid vaccine, and even this approval is not a full FDA approval as it's only emergency use authorization. The technology may have been used for drugs but never as a vaccine. Hope you do your research to clarify. -Well, you got it wrong, FDA has approved the cancer vaccine that has been developed using mRNA technology. GO SEARCH. I have told you before that EUA is necessary to slow down or stop the pandemic and world cannot wait it to be fully approved (let's say 5 years) before another millions of people would have died. Even with the EUA and millions of vaccination thereafter, ~3.5 million people have died. Who knows how many would have died if there was no EUA. Pfizer and moderna are working to get the full approval for their vaccines. I assume you would say that it was approved in a hurry later if it is approved (let's say in 2 years) Who can really verify is the CEO gets the vaccine or not? -I guess the only way to verify that the CEO got the vaccine is that you should have given shots to him.   The fact is companies are liable for their products. Car companies get sued for bad cars. Medicine companies get sued if their medicine cause side effects or deaths. But vaccine companies are above the law. So which means they do not have the urgency or the need to make sure the vaccines are safe. -You missing the point here. The vaccine production and approval does not happen overnight. They go through the lot of experiments, preclinical trials and various stages of clinical trials. All these protocols include measuring the efficacy and safety of the vaccine while used in the humans. The vaccine companies does not receive blanket immunity. They can still be sued if they misled on the data, or if they willfully misconduct. The immunity that was provided in covid19 vaccine development is a rare case and does not happen always. Good to have a healthy discussion instead of people coming off like attack dogs of the vaccine industry attacking anyone who questions the vaccines. So thank you. -Everyone has their own style of commenting and expressing. I think you deserve some level of criticism when you keep posting anti-vaccination posts and not a bit of pro-vaccination post. You say that you are not anti-vaxxer, but your posts and comments show otherwise. If you are trying to raise the concern regarding the safety and long-term effects or other things about these vaccine, you should start discussion in a good way.

bbmb · May 25, 2021 1:13 PM

@aksshre I was thinking the same. It'd be better if he had one post for his vaccine related theories and what not. @ p14nd3m1c my suggestion to you would be to utilize your resources in helping people. If you have so much of free time in your hand, how about signing up as a volunteer or doing some other things to help people. I get that you don't want to be vaccinated. But just let others get it if they want to.

wegalzrock · May 25, 2021 1:44 PM

@aksshre & @wegalzrockI will limit myself to one thread. Thanks for your positive feedback. @bbmb You are free to embrace the current Emergency Use Authorization vaccines, which have not gone through rigorous FDA approval process. I don't blame you or question your decision but at the same time I am free to ask the difficult questions or at least share them. Let's end at that because I think we have said everything that needs to be said from our own side. None of which are wrong I think. Have a great day. I have a busy schedule today

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 3:13 PM

Ya, LET'S END THIS WHOLE THING NOW. We know where you stands and there has been enough of the discussions for and against the vaccine. Sajha users are educated enough to look out for the information regarding the vaccine safety and efficacy. You don't have to make a new post of vaccine in the future when almost everyone knows where you stand. Adios

bbmb · May 25, 2021 3:36 PM

bbmb, " You don't have to make a new post of vaccine in the future" I think you are getting a little bit ahead of yourself there. Obviously if something new shareworthy comes I will share it. But it's just not worth discussing the same thing with you over and over again.

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 3:42 PM

I don't know what is shareworthy for you because you have been sharing all sorts of posts against the vaccine. But if there is something that is worth of discussion, sure go ahead. I will look forward to put my input in there. Looking forward to discussion worthy topic from you. Yeah, it's just not worth discussing the same things with you over and over again.

bbmb · May 25, 2021 3:53 PM

Yes you definitely would not know what I would think is shareworthy. That's because you are not me LOL. In any case it's probably better to stop arguing about the same stuff. Sajha gives this awesome tool to thread originators to delete responses. Please excuse me if I start deleting same kind of responses because it begins to get boring.

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 3:59 PM

I am aware of that awesome tool. and I support the idea that it does not make any sense to repeat the same thing. You and I know where things head to. "Insanity is the doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

bbmb · May 25, 2021 4:17 PM

Wegalzrock “ But just let others get it if they want to.” You are saying it like I am forcefully holding back people who want to get vaccinated. That’s not true at all. I have not encouraged nor discouraged anyone. I ask questions which makes one think. At least those that make me think and I think it’s okay to ask questions unless we are living in a communist country where we are simply ordered to obey the dictates of the ruling class who are influenced heavily by corporations and their investors.

p14nd3m1c · May 25, 2021 4:48 PM

@Rockey sorry I was just kidding. I saw your cool videos so could not resist.

Dorje Tsering · May 27, 2021 10:57 AM

p14nd3m1c, what do you think about the new press release by Joe Biden to investigate if Corona was man made. Facebook and twitter used to ban any comments that said corona was man made now they are changing their rules.

Dorje Tsering · May 27, 2021 11:03 AM

Dorje Tsering no worries brother. Hope you like my videos 🤣🤣🤣

rockey07 · May 27, 2021 12:12 PM

My heard rate increased and felt heart palpitation after 1st shot of Maderno, it took 2 months go get to normal. so I skipped 2nd vaccine.

nepalikaila · May 27, 2021 1:56 PM

@p14nd3m1c you sound like you are not very fond of vaccines and that's okay. Yes you are allowed to ask questions. But try and limit all your questions. Please don't try and spam the first page of sajha with your questions. @nepalikaila tait moderna launa parne Maderno layepacchi problems ta aaihalcha ni. Jokes aside, I hope you went to see the doctor.

wegalzrock · May 27, 2021 10:15 PM

@nepalikaila My friend. You are the reason I post all these things. The vaccine is not approved by the FDA but the vaccine industry is very powerful, they are using their $$$ to exert power onto law makers and media to promote the vaccine to make billions in profit. The vaccine may not be dangerous but still the fact that it's being forced onto the general population through propaganda is very concerning. It may not be dangerous but there are many individuals like yourself who go through vaccine injury or negative side effect. You are the kind of person that the media loving brainwashed population would hate because your story does not resonate with the propaganda. Many people who are speaking against my concerns or who have lashed upon me like religious fanatics would hate you because they are not ready to even acknowledge that there are people who have suffered wrongly and even met with death because of this unapproved vaccine. Emergency Use Authorization is not approval as many people have trouble understanding. Many people here have so much faith in this vaccine that they probably think that I am using another username here. That is the extent of their faith in this vaccine religion. It's good that you did not take the second vaccine after the first one resulted in unwanted complications. The way these vaccines and virus work is that once you are infected your body builds antibodies to fight it. The vaccine is actually dead cells of virus injected into your body so your body can create antibodies to fight it. The vaccine industry wants to give 2, 3 vaccines or even yearly vaccines so they can make profit out of it. The fact is that many people most likely have already been exposed to covid without any symptoms and have already built immunity to it. The rise of new strains have also been attributed as the side effect of the vaccines as the vaccinated people who are using the emergency use vaccine may be causing different mutations of the virus. The corona virus is differnt from anything this world has ever seen. The symptoms are varied so much and different people are affected differently. It almost seems like a synthetic virus because of it's behavior. Previously it was almost illegal to even imply that the corona virus was man made. Facebook and Twitter and all media used to ban anything or anyone implying that corona was man made. Now that finally they have scared the world into getting the vaccine they are allowing people to debate about it. After all it's a divide and conquer strategy that allows the colluded politics and corporations to keep churning money for themselves at the expense of the general public, whose lives are expendable. Anyway you are not alone. https://media.greatawakening.w... @wegalzrock You may have noticed but I stopped posting multiple threads on sajha homepage after you said it. He must be talking about Gates and Fauci Last edited: 28-May-21 11:13 AM Last edited: 28-May-21 11:28 AM

p14nd3m1c · May 28, 2021 8:53 AM

He must be talking about Gates and Fauci Bill Gates Sr and Fauci, Soros, Rockefeller Last edited: 28-May-21 11:37 AM Last edited: 28-May-21 02:11 PM

p14nd3m1c · May 28, 2021 11:36 AM

Not here to argue with pandemic too much but I seriously question his ability to do research, as his findings are explicitly from sources that either has no credibility, or is extremely biased. Following are some findings about the sources that pandemic uses for his research.   # Citation of inappropriate sources The Columbia Journalism Review (CJR) is a magazine for professional journalists that has been published by the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism since 1961. CJR has compiled a list of websites that are identified as fake-news, clickbait, and hate sites.   Fake news list: https://www.cjr.org/fake-beta   Below are some of the sites that are identified by CJR as conspiracy, clickbait, bias and hate sites. Interestingly our friend “pandemic” seems to be utilizing these questionable sources to conduct his “RESEARCH”. off-guardian.org humansarefree.com theblaze.com   # False claim regarding SM-102 Pandemic posted an article which falsely targeted Moderna vaccine ingredient SM-102 as unsafe. This claim has been fact-checked by AP news. Refer to the link below to read about SM-102 https://apnews.com/article/fac...   # Posting videos of Journalist with the history of covering conspiracy theories. Ben Swann. “Swann created a news segment called Reality Check in association with Fox 19 in Cincinnati and CBS46 in Atlanta, in which he covered "issues other media is not looking at" and uncritically presented alt-right conspiracy theories. Swann reported on conspiracy theories about the 2012 Aurora, Colorado shooting, questioned the truth of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, presented 9/11 conspiracy theories, and the false claims of a cover-up by the CDC of data related to the MMR vaccine and autism.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

rockey07 · May 28, 2021 3:34 PM

I'm just going to leave this here.......

rockey07 · May 28, 2021 3:36 PM

Rockey it's not surprising that you keep re-repeating conspiracy conspiracy it's getting a bit repetitive but anyways, here's what I have to say. Thesedays the corporations and the profiting collaborators in politics use the term conspiracy so loosely yet the people like you who are conditioned to obey, comply and act fanatic in your beliefs will never be able embrace common sense as opposed to fanaticism. Let's take for example the recent developments which have caused people to believe that the covid vaccine is man made. Even Biden now is spending public money to investigate it. Do you remember a year ago, social media and mainstream media were actively blocking any questions that asked if Covid was man made. Facebook blocked many posts and even people who were spreading the conspiracy that covid was man made. Yet in such a short time the whole narrative is turning against fanatic believers when mainstream media changes their stance and now says "oh it's not a conspiracy anymore, it's possible that covid was released accidentally from wuhan lab" This is only one recent conspiracy that blew up in your face. There have been a lot more in the past. Secondly, SM-102. This was something that Jogest had posted. I urge you to at least read who said what before you accuse someone of saying something they didn't. Thirdly, about history of journalists. It's possible that they came up with all sorts of things during their lifetime. When I share ONE story from a journalist, I am sharing that one piece of article. Many times mainstream journalism try to throw people under the rug if they do not parrot the mainstream narrative. But as a sensible and logical person you have to look at the point that is being made and try to see if the point is accurate or not. So if you have any points to make about that Ben Swann video I shared, be sure to mention it. Even you may have lied at some point in time but that does not mean that you may not say the truth at other times. So you have to consider the point that is being made instead of falling for the media brainwashing that will try to turn you into a closed minded person who will obey and comply. Last edited: 28-May-21 04:04 PM

p14nd3m1c · May 28, 2021 4:03 PM

The hypocrisy is unreal!! The hypocrisy lies in the blind supporters of pharma/vaccine/media corporations  who are in a rush to dismiss such reporters who have not harmed anyone yet risked their carrier to go against the powerful cartel; but these blind supporters are so ready to defend and promote the vaccine manufacturers like pfizer who have paid 5 billion dollars in wrongful death and injury due to their products. The level of hypocrisy is unbelievable. Imagine trying to dismiss 2 Emmy award winning journalist like Ben Swann because he may have reported different narratives from different eyewitness in his investigative reporting, that differs from the official narratives. While at the same time promotion and defending vaccines from companies like pfizer who have been sued multiple times for wrongful death and injury and who have been found guilty and fined to the amount of 5 billion dollars. Unreal!! Last edited: 29-May-21 07:10 AM Last edited: 29-May-21 07:19 AM

p14nd3m1c · May 29, 2021 7:08 AM

You have to keep believing in SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. Was it 40 years of experience in virology that makes him sing to different tune in less than a year? What Dr. Fauci said in 2020  The NIAID director dismissed the Wuhan lab leak theory in a National Geographic interview in May 2020. He told the magazine that it was a "circular argument" and argued that scientific evidence pointed away from the idea. "If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated," he reportedly told National Geographic. He added that "everything about the stepwise evolution over time" strongly indicated that the virus evolved in nature to its present form.     What Dr. Fauci said recently   Dr. Fauci told the Poynter Institute on May 11 that he was "not convinced" that COVID-19 had developed naturally, and said authorities needed to continue to find out "exactly what happened." "Certainly, the people who've investigated have said it likely was the emergence from an animal reservoir that then infected individuals," he said. "But, it could have been something else, and we need to find that out." Speaking to reporters at a Tuesday press briefing, he said that it was "more likely" that COVID-19 originated as a "natural occurrence," but said the scientific community didn't know "100 percent the answer to that." Blind belief in 'subject matter experts' may be injurious to health Last edited: 29-May-21 09:14 AM

p14nd3m1c · May 29, 2021 9:14 AM

Haha your logic is on point!

Dorje Tsering · May 30, 2021 1:54 PM

p14nd3m1c did you take vaccine yet?

Mr33Sajha · Oct 14, 2021 1:17 PM

Testing

p14nd3m1c · Oct 14, 2021 4:22 PM

Yay! Last time I was not able to post. Looks like the restriction has been removed! But to answer your question. No - I have not taken the vaccine yet. I have been living a normal life. No mask in a big festival over 500 people. No mask Nepalese indoor parties with 200 plus people in Texas. Noone wears masks anymore. Since the beginning of the so called pandemic I felt like this was just another form of flu and I have been fine without ever getting a flu shot. As long as you are taking care of your health and immune system, you have nothing to fear. Looks like a lot of vaccinated people are getting covid thesedays. Good lord, the fear of the unknown will be the end of life for a lot of fearful people who fear all the wrong things.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 14, 2021 4:27 PM

https://news.yahoo.com/fox-new... p14nd3m1c what is your political alignment? libertarian? republican? democrat?

Mr33Sajha · Oct 15, 2021 5:28 PM

Mr33Sajha I do not find myself aligning with any political parties. My thoughts and observations are solely based on my personal interpretation of particular issues. By the way that link you posted is very lopsided and you have to be really naive to be swayed by that news piece. The news says that Fox is being a hypocrit for requiring vaccine passports but that statement is absolutely false. Vaccine passport means you need to be vaccinated to do anything like going to work, taking a flight, etc. But at Fox it seems like they are *not* in support of vaccine passport by allowing their employees to come to work without mandatory vaccination. If someone can go to work with a mask if they are not vaccinated then that is not in line with vaccine passport. Vaccine passport implies mandatory vaccines the failure to do which would disallow the individual from being able to attend or participate in their normal day to day life activity such as going to work or taking a flight, etc.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 16, 2021 12:45 AM

Ya you are entitled to your opinions. And looks like lots of people have tried to discuss with you, so what is the rate of death after vaccine with or without covid and no vaccine with coivd? Last edited: 16-Oct-21 01:36 AM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 16, 2021 1:33 AM

Tell me something. Do you really think Fox is supporting vaccine passport by allowing unvaccinated employees to work in their office with mask on?

p14nd3m1c · Oct 16, 2021 1:52 AM

my belief is irrelevant when facts are available https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/... take a look at the notice under "Unvaccinated Employee ..." section. "Green Screen" - workcare daily screen and if you don't know what that is here : https://www.workcare.com/resou.... So either get vaccine passport or get subjected to daily screening process, is the main message Now can you answer my question "so what is the rate of death after vaccine with or without covid and no vaccine with coivd?" Last edited: 16-Oct-21 02:30 AM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 16, 2021 2:10 AM

I am asking for your opinion based on the facts. Do you not want to express your opinion on what you think vaccine passport is and if the Fox policy aligns with vax passport definition? I have not seen the data that you are asking. Try googling it.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 16, 2021 5:38 AM

Just spent few minutes searching for info on what you asked. This person actually answers your questions. Check it out. https://fb.watch/8Gol0UJaK0/

p14nd3m1c · Oct 16, 2021 6:24 AM

happy dashain my dude,  looks like your source is not lopsided and not from random dude. but anyway good for you. You said yourself you have never researched that question before so looks like you are also not naive. https://www.reuters.com/articl... about my vaccine passport view it is get a passport or get a visa every day. Last edited: 16-Oct-21 10:07 AM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 16, 2021 9:54 AM

Dude fact check that video. The numbers and charts are coming from valid source. You just don’t want to accept that it could be real because you have complies and obeyed the narrative presented to you by the media which are owned in partnership by the same vaccine manufacturers. You are better off living in denial. And whoever in their sane mind even suggested that vaccine injury would be more than covid injuries??? Where are you coming from?? As far as vaccine passport we are talking about strict vaccine passports and mandates. Noones talking about the visas. Last edited: 16-Oct-21 10:08 AM

p14nd3m1c · Oct 16, 2021 10:07 AM

so your trust in that dude the chart he is citing is better than my trust in reputable and credible media? you did not suggest covid vs vaccine injuries but since you are rational person, I thought you would have researched getting covid vs getting vaccine. You only researched why not to get vaccine, have you researched why to get vaccine? about Strict vaccine mandate, is that not strict enough for you? it is stricter than what Biden admin has done. In fox news it is get vaccine or not get infected (not use the mask as you said). also looks like you are never in denial  https://www.lipstickalley.com/... https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06... Last edited: 16-Oct-21 11:54 PM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 16, 2021 10:15 AM

If you look closely, the dude is pretty much citing reuters. If there is 0.01 chance that I will catch covid, and if there is another 0.001 chance that i will die if i get covid. Then its a zero brainer to get a vaccine that has a 0.00001 chances of causing injury. Looks like you have not read about Bidens vaccine passport. His administration has clearly said that if a business has over 100 people working on site, then everyone needs to be vaccinated or tested weekly. Thats why its not hypocritical when fox allows non vaccinated employees to work on site with their mask on and without the need to be tested weekly.  This conversation is going in circles. Please go and search bidens vaccination mandates and lets not waste each other’s time. Last edited: 17-Oct-21 08:35 AM

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 6:10 AM

It is hypocritical because either they get vaccinated or get tested daily. Biden admin does weekly. I think you are the one who should read. Last edited: 17-Oct-21 02:21 PM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 17, 2021 9:48 AM

Here is another so called conspiracy theory some of you might like to research on.. https://articles.mercola.com/s...

66KTM99 · Oct 17, 2021 3:10 PM

Is it a pandemic or plandemic, you decide. https://articles.mercola.com/s...

66KTM99 · Oct 17, 2021 3:13 PM

Fox is not having their unvaccinated employees tested every day. They are only required to get their temperature taken. No big deal. 66KTM99 The only way that FDA could authorize Emergency Use vaccination was if and only if there were no medicines that could cure Covid. The whole covid was only a gateway for vax industries to sell billions of doses to pocket trillion dollars. So any meds that could come in the way of their plans were deemed harmful and injurious such as Hydrochloroquin and ivermectin. Doctors who have been using those medicines to cure covid related diseases for decades were silenced if they spoke about it saying 'their' experts know science better. Obviously with the whole media and politicians in their pockets it's an easy task to make people want and beg for the vaccine which could totally be avoided.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 4:36 PM

Anti-vaccine couple, in their 40s, die from COVID-19 and leave behind five kids: Husband repents on deathbed 'Mom, I love you and I wish that I'd got the shot' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...

SanakWaal · Oct 17, 2021 4:46 PM

3rd conservative radio host who condemned vaccines dies of Covid https://www.politico.com/state...

SanakWaal · Oct 17, 2021 4:48 PM

Mother of four who proudly proclaimed her anti-vax status dies of COVID https://www.nydailynews.com/ne...

SanakWaal · Oct 17, 2021 4:49 PM

I do not consider myself anti vaccine as I have taken all other vaccines in the past. It's only this particular one that does not pass the litmus test in my book. To be fair, many *pro* vaccine people have died from covid but it's never made a big deal.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 4:49 PM

Herman Cain, ex-presidential candidate who refused to wear mask, dies after COVID-19 diagnosis. Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate and supporter of President Donald Trump who pointedly refused to wear a mask during the coronavirus pandemic, has died after contracting COVID-19, his website said on Thursday. https://www.reuters.com/articl...

SanakWaal · Oct 17, 2021 4:50 PM

The fact is people die all the time and sometimes they have more chances of dying with slight infection if they already have underlying conditions. The media wants you to panic by showing those handful cases and I don't blame you for falling for their marketing campaigns as they control almost all the media and official viewpoints. What the media does not show you is the vaccine related deaths. Someone posted this image a while back. I actually checked the link and it's not fake! This is actually from CDC site

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 4:58 PM

Most people wont have a clue about things like this. They think FDA is there to look after them but think again. Top FDA gets hired by vaccine manufacturers getting paid millions of dollars salary. Last edited: 17-Oct-21 10:03 PM

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 9:37 PM

You are evil to humanity. 🕉

Sanaklaal · Oct 17, 2021 9:42 PM

Mr33Sajha Do you believe this news or do you think it's conspiracy and fake https://dossier.substack.com/p...

p14nd3m1c · Oct 17, 2021 10:06 PM

In US many people who believe on women will power will stop them from getting pregnant who get hosed with millions of sperms in single fuuk, ,are advocating it.

Logan · Oct 18, 2021 9:54 AM

Nope, I believe this, this is everywhere https://www.huffpost.com/entry...

Mr33Sajha · Oct 20, 2021 6:50 PM

Mrsajha You are in denial now bringing up news from a year ago. Tsk tsk you trusted those fda guys to make decisions for you to get vaccinated while they all went behind your back to get $$$$$ to approve those vaccines. I respect your undying faith in the same people who are screwing you. Respect!

p14nd3m1c · Oct 20, 2021 10:12 PM

why am I in denial? Not like climate denier EPA killing our planet or last admin giving permanent tax cut to rich and temporary tax cut to general people, saying they are people party, not like covid deniers dying by covid. Not like pro-life people denying universal health care. I also respect you for being duped again and again. did you donate to election recount fund yet? if not you should of which 80% goes to a person rather than recount. Respect for you too buddy. Last edited: 20-Oct-21 10:53 PM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 20, 2021 10:41 PM

I thought we were talking about the plandemic. I am surprised you are now bringing up totally unrelated topics like trump, tax cuts, pro life, etc. Didnt you start the conversation with me asking for my political affiliation and I answered you that I am only concerned about specific topics and that I am not a supporter of any party? I am a student on visa so I cannot vote anyways but the hidden facts around covid is very concerning and these things are coming out. As soon as you saw that the very people who approved the covid vaccine at FDA were now hired by vaccine companies, all your convictions were shattered and now you are trying to hold on to your pride by bringing up totally unrelated topics. I know that it’s a big betrayal. Not just one but three FDA people right after they approved the vaccines. Speaks volumes of why they approved it in a hurry. As they say payback is a bitch. No no not for you before you start getting pumped up for no reason.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 21, 2021 5:37 AM

hahaha, yup plandemic, so the whole world has been duped by 3 guys? I mean it would have been a good argument if only USA was under pandemic and not the whole world. Sure. I mean I am not saying that it cant be true but I will wait for the proof (paper trails, not touchy feely proofs). not saying that they are not corrupt or anything but if even if they are corrupt and they stop people from dying I think that is a good thing for the populous. Thanks to stupidity of some sect of peoples we (not you and me) are still debating flat earth. I brought in other context because I am showing you the party that started it and their credibility too. and here is some proof for you too: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volum... but hey you do you.

Mr33Sajha · Oct 21, 2021 9:59 AM

Haha now you are resorting to haha huhu to make your point look stronger while at the same time agreeing with the possibility. This is not about those 3 people. Only they are exposed right now but you cannot begin to understand the enormity of something that yields trillions of dollars. However you are free to ignore everything and keep on obeying and complying to the dictates of the masters who are manupulating the puppets like those 3 who got exposed. To be honest they are not exposed as much as they should because the mainstream media is still hiding them. You only know about it because I showed it to you. And it seems like you still have a hard time believing it although you have googled it and found to be true. So is the servitude of man.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 21, 2021 11:11 AM

its ok dude, I have shown you the proof of vaccinated hospitalization rate and death rate vs un-vaccinated, but you choose to deny them and you only want to be stuck on corruption angle then you do you. I like the way you think I am obeying them and you just denying them because you think I am obeying them. (just own the libs this is how all the anti-vax stuff got started) Looks like you dont like mainstream media but like Alex Jones, Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk. I am vaccinated and wear mask every day. I think you should take some hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. You might even dont know you cant send kids to school if your kids are not vaccinated against other diseases. I laughed because you dont care about the facts except for the corruption angle again which has no proof that can stand legally (of course there are possibilities, there is a possibility that I am also 100% correct or you are 100% correct but that does not mean it is a fact). And you are denying facts because of possibility? Yup looks like you are totally not in denial. The pundits who are asking questions about covid vaccine are vaccinated themselves and who did not take vaccine died of covid. but still you do you buddy. If you mean by servitude I obey the law and mandate then yes. Last edited: 21-Oct-21 11:42 AM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 21, 2021 11:36 AM

You are free to accept the news given to you by the news agencies that are funded by vaccine companies. You are free to accept and obey the politicians who get their money from vaccine companies. I don't know alex jones, ben shapiro and charlie kirk that you are talking about. Maybe you listen to them but I don't. I just do my own personal research. You would never know about those 3 FDA officials if you had not heard from me. So it would make sense to be open minded than a drone of the medical-political-complex. Anyways I think we are going in circles and I hate repeating myself but I will let you educate yourself with this article from the British Medical Journal which has been in circulation since the 1800. It is a peer reviewed journal. I hope this shows you how things work under the hood that is hidden from you. Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science https://www.bmj.com/content/37... If even this does not open up your eyes then you are free to keep enjoying your bubble. Have a good one.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 21, 2021 11:51 AM

Well if you didn't know https://www.huffpost.com/entry... he invested in this company and then promoted it, and to make is his product sell more he started anti vax so that his base would not take vaccine but take his medicine. but hey if you are still in denial even after I present the facts and you present the possibilities then you do you. Last edited: 21-Oct-21 11:56 AM

Mr33Sajha · Oct 21, 2021 11:54 AM

Hahahahahahahahaha thukka Naasey P14nd. Saitaaaan .. Tero kaaam chaina

Sanaklaal · Oct 21, 2021 12:14 PM

I do urge everyone with doubts about the way things are going to read this article. It will keep things in perspective Covid-19: politicisation, “corruption,” and suppression of science https://www.bmj.com/content/37... BMJ is a journal that is being published since 1800's in case you have doubts about what they write and also they are peer reviewed journal. I spent too much time today on this so have fun and see you around.

p14nd3m1c · Oct 21, 2021 12:18 PM

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