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 Democracy in Hinduism

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Posted on 07-07-02 10:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hinduism is the most democratic of all forms of worship in the world. That is why there are so many branches with Hinduism and a hindu is free to choose his own line of worship.

Hinduism cannot not be defined as a religion as is practised in the west. In the eastern culture sages have devised and preached the way of living. Be it Hinduism, Buddihsm or other chineese,persian culture the way of living is of great importance.

Hinduism does not seek to gather large groups of people in order to impress them. Hinduism is a private affair of each of its practitioners. Each individual has to find his/her own way of living. The sages and their writings guide us in our endeavours.

The hindu writings in the form of puran, ved, and epics such as "MahaBharat" and "Ramayan" seek to guide us in choosing the right path.

The caste system is another interesting aspect of Hinduism. Hinduism has 4 major castes and at one time people were free to go from one caste to another. It is just like changing jobs in todays world.

But with the passage of time some unscrupulous and powerful people made the caste system rigid disallowing an individual in changing his/her caste. And while people could be demoted to the so-called lower caste the reverse was not possible. The original Hinduism did not classify people into high class or low class but just into caste system.

The western missionaries and muslims have tried to exploit this misunderstanding to their own advantage to increase their own ranks.

Even today we notice that if a son takes on the job of the father it is more likely that s/he will succeed. This was specially true at that historical time when the system of education was different. People have started to realize that that system is better than the present imported western education.
 
Posted on 07-10-02 3:08 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dirty Corrupted Evil Holy
ID: 99698197 Posted on 07-10-02 2:20 PM Reply | Notify Me
(1) Danger Tool for corruption:
A pundits (Priest) do cultivate land or farming anything, he just read old conservative philosophy and do daily practices based on book......Conclusion: Hindu religion's based on pure no democratic, unrealistic, unethical, conservative, corrupted religion, corrupted social and culture practices....

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ID: 99698197 Posted on 07-10-02 2:23 PM Reply | Notify Me
(1) Danger Tool for corruption:
A pundits (Priest) do not cultivate land .....Conclusion: Hindu religion's based on pure no democratic, unrealistic, unethical, conservative, corrupted religion, corrupted social and culture practices...

Agree with Above Reply
ID: 99698197 Posted on 07-10-02 2:56 PM Reply | Notify Me
agree with above reply and messages.

Yes, it is true Hindu Religion is totally based on unrelastic, corrupted, non-democratice, non social, unethical cultural practices.

Hey ID:99698197,

What are you doing posting message yourself and replying your message

'... I agree with above reply and messages. .....Yes, it is true Hindu Religion is totally based on unrelastic, corrupted, non-democratice, non social, unethical cultural practices.....'

by yourself?
 
Posted on 07-10-02 3:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This message to "DhakaTopi" and supporters.

Hello DhakaTopi. Your name "DhakaTopi" is perfactly match as you named yourself. I can't do comment about it. I don't mean to hurt your feeling, but honestly you need more study and schooling.

Before you claimed about " Hindu is Democratic Religion ". You must study about Hindu Religion at least for basic knowledge, but actually vast study must required for this topic.

You do not understand what is Democratic and Religion? And you don't have deep knowledge about "Hindu Religion"?

It seems like you are jumping without notice there is a big black hole.

Basic Theory of Religion is:
(1) Don't harm, hurt, and kill other.
(2) Respect and Love other.
(3) Don't do any bad activities.
(4) Give right, freedom, justice and equality.
(5) Share good and bad situation with other.
(6) Help other.
(7) Don't cheat, be honest.
(8) God must be only one and one for all people.

In truth and real Hindu society and activities, you don't see implementation of basic theory Religion. Most of the time, we can find 100% opposite activities form the Religion. Seriously, there is no Pure or clean Religion countries like Nepal and India. If there is no pure or clean activities or action, there will no democracy and religion, too.

Hint: In deep study and research, Hindu Religion even doesn't have implementation of basic theory of religion. Hindu is only poor social and cultural practices which poor people carried out from generation to generation.
 
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Posted on 07-10-02 11:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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MissManners,

No need to be apologetic about saying a few sanskrit words. Western scientists are finding "NEW?" ways of doing things that had been written in sanskrit all along. We, forgetting our roots blindly follow others not realising that we are the original powers.

While I understood that "tatsa.kalyan bhabatu" means may good come upon you. I did not understand what "sarbam mama" means. Could somebody explains this to me. I would love to know more sanskrit words.

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Posted on 07-11-02 8:00 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mannerman,

Sarbam Mama is a Vedantic word. You need to understand Vedantic principle to understand the meaning of Sarbam Mama.

Vedanta is considered to be the last step in the religious/spiritual life of a sadhak.

1. Karma
2. Puja
3. Bhakti
4. Advaita

Sarbam Mama falls under the fourth category. It is not just hard but almost impossible to realize Sarbam Mama without the deep-rooted bhakti. Ram Krishna Paramhansa teacher of Vivakenanda once said, "Gyan without bhakti is baseless".

Please read the biography of Vivakananda or Ram Krishna. As the most recent sages of the last century their experience and thoughts are very helpful. (I also like Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda)
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Posted on 07-11-02 9:47 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sarbam means "everybody" and mama means "me". That is everybody is god and god is everybody.

This is the principle of oneness of the world,galaxy- the entire universe. As "taha cha " has said this is Adwait phylosophy.

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Posted on 07-11-02 9:50 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The above picture shows a slice of universe with uncountable stars bigger than our sun. But all this manyness is essentially one.
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Posted on 07-11-02 11:29 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Research Report from Hindu Religion Organization:

The caste system:

Although the caste system was abolished by law in 1949, it remains a significant force throughout India.
Each follower of Hinduism belonged to one of the thousands of Jats (communities) that existed in India. The Jats were grouped into four Varna (social castes), plus a fifth group called the "untouchables." A person's Jat determined the range of jobs or professions from which they could choose. Marriages normally took place within the same Jat. There were rules that prohibited persons of different groups from eating, drinking or even smoking with each other. People were once able to move from one Varna to another. However, at some time in the past (estimates range from about 500 BCE to 500 CE), the system became rigid, so that a person was generally born into the Jat and Varna of their parents, and died in the same group. "The caste system splits up society into a multitude of little communities, for every caste, and almost every local unit of a caste, has its own peculiar customs and internal regulations." The Rigveda defined four castes. In decreasing status, they are normally:

Brahmins (the priests and academics)
Kshatriyas (rulers, military)
Vaishyas (farmers, landlords, and merchants)
Sudras (peasants, servants, and workers in non-polluting jobs).

The Dalit were outcasts who do not belong to one of the castes. Until the late 1980's they were called Harijan (children of God). They worked in what are considered polluting jobs. They were untouchable by the four castes; in some areas of the country, even a contact with their shadow by a member of the Varnas was considered polluting.
Practicing untouchability or discriminating against a person because of their caste is now illegal. The caste system has lost much of its power in urban areas; however it is essentially unchanged in some rural districts. The government has instituted positive discrimination in order to help the Dalit and lower castes.

What do you think?
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Posted on 07-11-02 5:15 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hello again.
I am glad somebody is on the path to enlightenment. Well my fellows mannerman and thaha chha explained it a little what sarbam mama means. I advise you to read Yogananda and other Vedanti Saints too to know more about the word. I value their insights on that. Ramakrishna was a good example too. I also find Mother Teresa very inspiring in understanding sarbam mama. Ok this much for now. Rest, explore on your own. I am just 22 and I am sounding like a pro here. So better keep quiet now. Namaste'.
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Well looks like the final conclusion is :
"We will stick to our grandfathers old Banyan tree no matter what ...."
..probably because we have no other choice or probably we dont have any chance to fit in any other society ....
..or the worst case might be probably we were destined to be morons ...no matter what ..
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Posted on 07-17-02 8:07 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sarbam means everyone but the philosophy behind it is Vedanta. I will not be able to explain the principles of Vedanta in this user group; I am neither a preacher nor a writer. Any way I will try to do my best to express my views about the existence and meaning of Sarbam Mama.

Vedanta believes in the unification of the universe. We are not different from Nature, the matter, as our body is made out of it. We are not different from life as every one has spirit/soul. Vedanta looks in the similarities of the universe and how it directly affects the very existence of us (I).

To learn more about Vedanta, Vivakenanda/Yogananada has several books published. My favorite one is the Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda. It is one of the best sellers since it was published in 1946. Autobiography of Ramakrishna is also very insightful and inspiring.
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Posted on 07-17-02 1:07 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Mr Chettri,

Don't try to put words in our mouth. Who ever said "We will stick to our grandfathers old Banyan tree no matter what ...." As far as I can see, it is only You who is saying that!

We have understood our way of life and choose to live our life in the way our sages have researched.

What do you mean Mr. Chettri about "we dont have any chance to fit in any other society...". So does religion mean to fit in a society to you? huh!

Then you do not know what is religion. You do things just because some guy from developed country does. If the guy is gay then you will also become gay because you think it is cool to become one. So that you can fit in their society.
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