TGIF fellaws,

First of all i do apologize for such misleading title. But the reason i wrote such deceptive title is to grab attention of the people for this thread.. I didn't mean to say anything against the muslim religion..

Today i just wanted to know the opinion of my Nepalese friend, about what do they think about this specific religion "Muslim".

     On April 19, 1995, Timothy McVeigh destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building, which shattered the dreams of hundreds of Oklahomans.

     On Sept. 11, 2001, a terrorist group connected to al-Qaida, hijacked jet airplanes and crashed them into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, which is still fresh in the memory of thousands of Americans.

    Attacks like these take place across the world all the time, and they change the lives of humanity.

    No matter whether it’s a small attack or big, one of the first things people ask themselves is whether it was a terrorist attack.

   After assuming it is, people start making hypotheses about which religion, race, community or country the terrorist belongs to.

   For many, the first thought that comes to the mind would be Muslims. Most of the people around the world still have so much hatred toward this religion.

   If a woman is seen wearing a burqa — a traditional Muslim all-covering dress — in public, people look at her in a suspicious way. If a group of people speak Arabic in a public place, people stare at them. If a guy named Muhammad is in the airport terminal, he is most likely going to go through the special security check.

   After 9/11, this kind of issue increased tremendously, especially within American society.

   People still think that terrorism is in the blood of Muslims, which is absolutely wrong.

   Just because a certain group of Muslims became terrorists is not enough to accuse all Muslims in the same way.

   Terrorism doesn’t come in any skin color, religion, race or ethnicity.

   We can see white extremist groups here in America too. Recently, nine members of the Hutaree Militia, who called themselves Christian warriors, were arrested in Michigan. They were preparing for the end of time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive...

    Just because followers of Jesus Christ committed such activities doesn’t mean that all Christian believers should be accused and treated as terrorists.

   The same principle applies to Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists too.

   Anybody can commit a crime regardless of which religion they belong to. Crimes don’t come from any particular religion, ethnicity, race or color of skin.

   People need to be more open-minded in terms of religion in order to prevent these kinds of activities in the community. Education about religion and culture is the best way to get rid of all those negative thoughts.

   This will help not only Muslims but also Americans, who want to know more about the Muslim culture and religion.

   The hatred toward Muslims will go away only after people get to know more about them.

   No religion tells its followers to kill people or commit crimes.

Abraham Lincoln said it best: When I do good, I feel good; When I do bad, I feel bad. That’s my religion.

  The reason i posted this article is because i always have a discussion with one of my brother who is so anti muslim that for him, every muslim is terrorist and extremist.. He thinks that Muslim are born to kill others.. I don't understand why he have so much hatred towards this religion but i wish i can make him convince that no religion is bad in itself. It depends upon every individual how they take it..

bd...

 

BD,

TGIF.......where u got that stuff? man....I wanna get a taste too...looks like it's awesome...........I am thinking of flying too, today...........

Boulevard dreams, you are right and I agree with you.

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how about, if you work in a project with a 5 people out of 5, 3 are muslim, all educated people, when in a meeting, even one muslim is saying something wrong, why other 2 muslim support him. Even everybody in the room knows he is wrong. And later admitting that, muslim brother always have to support other muslim no matter what.

Your brother is right and you can never convice him because  muslim is synonyms of violence. From Afganistan to Zimbabwe whenever is muslim there is violence.  This is not what i just said this is happening around the world. They do not accept other religion at all.

Yea, i agree

MUSLIMS are terrorizing hot

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@ stupida: i literally didn't understand what you're trying to say. There's nothing mentioned about flying buddy. You must be high or drunk while reading it. Take it easy..

@WeReNe: No comments for you because, you haven't got my point yet..

@OC101: You might be correct on the first example that you gave because you probably have gone through such situation at your work place but i have  never gone through that. I still think it depends upon the individual how well educated and liberal that person is.. Talking about supporting just because they are muslim, what do you do if there's Nepali instead of Muslim.. If he's right you'll support him and if he's not you wont, am i right?? That's because you are a good person and you always support for truth?? I think that thinking doesn't came in your mind because you are Nepali, it's because what you've learnt and how you are grown up???Well talking about complaining while eating pork, again i think may be you've gone through that situation but i am not. Trust i have hung out with lots of muslims and one of my manager with whom i am working from last 3 yrs is also a muslim, he never complain to me while i am eating pork and i never complain him while he eat beef.. So i don't know what to say....

@Californication: Yes indeed,  you're right that from Afganistan to Zimbabwe whenever is muslim there is violence. But brother those are the countries that are dominated ny muslims. Obviously in a country where there are all muslim, any hindu or christians cannot go an creat violence? Can they??? Well i really didn't like the phrase that you've said "muslim are the synonyms of violence." You re being stereotype here, Just because the majority of terrorist are muslims is not enough to say that muslims are synonyms of violence. Let me tell you this, majority of nepalese guys and girls who work in a gas station in U.S steals money, does that mean all Nepalese are thief and they are not trustworthy??? How would you take this???

P.S. i do appreciate your comments though but lets not take it personally, it's just a small forum where we are sharing our ideas...

boulevard dreams
I know what u want to prove here,, I also believe in either good or bad. Only thing I wanna say  is, just beware, probably Just pay attention to your brother and me we are older than you and we never send you in the wrong path.. But I will use the quote from CNN by Fared Zakaria, a international journalist.. He said ""Pakistan is the center of Terrorism".  Again I wonder Why??????????

All Muslims are NOT Terrorist but all terrorists are Muslims: George W Bush.(Very well said).

Californication: Yes indeed, you're right that from Afganistan to Zimbabwe whenever is muslim there is violence. But brother those are the countries that are dominated ny muslims. Obviously in a country where there are all muslim, any hindu or christians cannot go an creat violence? Can they??? Well i really didn't like the phrase that you've said "muslim are the synonyms of violence." You re being stereotype here, Just because the majority of terrorist are muslims is not enough to say that muslims are synonyms of violence. Let me tell you this, majority of nepalese guys and girls who work in a gas station in U.S steals money, does that mean all Nepalese are thief and they are not trustworthy??? How would you take this???

Dreams,

  Not  all the countries  from Afganistan  to Zimbabwe are  dominated  by  Muslim.I am saying... even though muslim are minorities they have created violence.. do not go further just look at INDIA muslim are minorities still they are creating enough violence..  look at Russia... muslim are minorities  still creating violence. One of my best freind is Muslim.. I am not stereotyped at all,, this is fact.. dont you read news at all!!! yes  all the   muslim  are not terrorist   BUT  most of them  support  terrorism . Who  told you that "majority of nepalese guys and girls who work in a gas station in U.S steals money"  never  heard it before coz may be  it is  happened  less often then violence created by muslim in the world ?. How  often do you heared news that Nepales steals money?  vis a vis Voilence  occured by Muslim? I think  you  are being sterotyped here..  Mexico is  considered one of  the poorest country in the world but  it has world richest person still  Mexico considerd as one of the world  poorest country.  Fact  is  FACT....Same , ALL Muslim are not  terrorist  at  all  but Majority  or  them accept  violence I  totaly understand your position .  correct me if  i am  wrong.Please  do not be BRAINWASHED...think independetly as you  can!!!  salam walekum...

150  Innocent  killed by  Muslim in Air  India  Fligh.t.............?  ENOUGH  IS  ENOUGH!!!!!

Quran
Excerpted from "The meaning of The Glorious Qur’an" translated by Muhammed Marmaduke Pichthal, and published by Idara Isha’at-e-Diniyat (P) Ltd., New Delhi.
Surah XXI, The Prophets, 98: "Lo! ye (idolaters) and that which ye worship beside Allah are fuel of hell. Thereunto ye will come"
Surah II, The Cow, 221: "Wed not idolatresses till they believe; for lo! a believing bondwoman is better than an idolatress though she please you; and give not your daughters in marriage to idolaters till they believe ...."
Surah VIII, Spoils of War, 65: "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred and if there be of you hundred steadfast they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence"
Surah VIII, Spoils of War, 39: "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah..."
Surah IX, Repentance, 5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. ...."
Surah IX, Repentance, 23: "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Surah IX, Repentance, 28: "O ye who believe! The idolaters only are unclean. So let them not come near the Inviolable Place of Worship after this their year. If ye fear poverty (from the loss of their merchandise) Allah shall preserve you of His bounty if He will. ..."
Surah IX, Repentance, 123: "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Surah XXXIII, The Clans, 61 "Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Californication: I don't want to correct you because you are not wrong??? You're absolutely right in your logic. Now let me put mine..

You've said,"even though muslim are minorities they have created violence.. do not go further just look at INDIA muslim are minorities still they are creating enough violence..  look at Russia... muslim are minorities  still creating violence." Let me tell you at first that i am not BRAINWASHING you or anybody here in this platform. I don't think i can do that either because this is just a forum where we express our ideas not that we drag somebody vote our opinions....  

Californication, at this moment i remember one song "fulko aakha ma fulai sansaar, kada ko aakha ma kadai sansar" by our very own nepali artist Aani Choying Dolma.. You said don't want to go further and gave the example of INDIA, so what do you think about our very own country Nepal?? We have lots of muslim minorities in Nepal too but so far we haven't faced any situation where muslims creat any violence. In fact we Nepalese were against muslims when 13 people were killed in Iraq few years ago.. What do you think? Why Nepal has been target for muslim where our neighbouring country INDIA is facing lots of problems from them??? It's because we are the only country were four different religion hindu, muslim, christians and buddhist exists in mutual understanding.. We accept them and their culture.. We never say anything against their god and their religion.... Do you think India do the same, hell no?? It's because India is pretty much conservative when it comes to the religion, that's the reason muslim and so called terrorist muslims, don't like them...

Californication, every individual, religion, society, state and country has good as well as bad things.. No body is perfect in this world.. Though i haven't read Quran yet but so far as my knowledge i do agree that there are some negative things in Quran too, for example: Muslims think that Allah is the only god and this earth exists because of him..They are so into this thing called Jihad and are ready to kill their own child in the name of Jihad.. which definitely is bad too.. I am not supporting those points.. Let me ask you have you read Geeta, our holy book?? Though i haven't read all but i have at least read half of the book and it says whole lots of things about sex in Geeta. In Hindu religion Sex before marriage is regarded as a great Sin and so does in other religion too. Though it says whole lots of things about sex in Geeta but in a country like ours and India, couples hesitate to hold their hands or kiss each other in a public place.. I am sure you've noticed all those sculptures that are engraved by the sex pose in basantapur, bhaktapur and patan ares. In the same temple where our gods and have a leisure time guys and gals cannot stay under the temple and hold their hands..My apology that i scroll the topic and take it to the different thing but that was just an example to show that everything as their good as well as bad points.. LIke the way muslim religion and some bad points, our religion do have some bad stuffs tooo..

I liked your example of mexican and i do agree that FACT IS FACT...We cannot change it by shouting or screaming..But when you said that All muslims are not terrorist but majority of them accept violence... How did you know that majority of them accept?? Do you know how many percentage of muslim like violence? So does that mean your best friend also like violence?? Muslims have the largest population in this world buddy?? So lets say in 10 million muslims if one million accept violence, can we say that majority of them accept it because comparing to hindu and christian the number of muslim is high???  We being a hindu cannot compete with muslims when it comes in numbers brothers???

Well Californication, i am not an advocate for muslims but its just that i feel bad when my brother or somebody say all muslims are terrorist because don't you feel the same when some christians say something about your religion... So thats the case buddy....

Last but not the least, I don't know how long you've been here in U.S or you might be in Nepal too but may be you are in a state where no Nepali people work in a gas station... Because i bet you 95% of Nepalese here in U.S knows about this topic. May be you fall in one of those 5%, if that's the case, mu bad... Walekum Salam and Allahfis....

bd.

I dont know what are you talking about the "150  Innocent  killed by  Muslim in Air  India  Fligh.t.............?  ENOUGH  IS  ENOUGH!!!!!"

If you're talking about the people killed last night in plane crash that sorry buddy, you've got wrong information...It was not a terrorist act it was a plane crash which happened because the airplance overshot the airport's hilltop runway... Well if you want to edit and delete that post, i would appreciate.. peace...

bd.. 

Simply let me ask a question: Why majority of Nepali like to name "DHOTI" to Indians and why an Indian like to name "BAHADUR" to any Nepali gentleman.

If you analyze and get answer , then you will know why people looking at them as terrorist. 

Syanjali bro, these are just those kinda topic where, the more you debate the more logic will appear, but we just expressing our views, we are not debating here.. But nice example though...

Love your enemy and they will be your friends- Hinduism
Love your enemy - Buddhism
Love your enemy - Christianity
Eliminate your enemy from your path - Muslim

This fundamental difference of idealism is making a big difference...heaven to hell

Where do the 72 virgins come into the picture in this debate? Can someone enlighten me?

Boule, I really got bored with your long long description.

Try to make it short and with strong points. You are debating with all and saying that u are just putting your views lol.

May be you have someone Muslim in ur close relation so you are aginst that tag to them but they are acceptional to only few. I am afraid now may be in next few years we will see nepali jihadi (you)  trying to bomb the times square lol.

One thing you to tell u as u said to Californication , FUL KO AANKHA MA FULAI SANSAR ; that means all those innocent people killed in 9/11 in NY , 4/11 in Mumbai, just few days before in Karachi are Terroist thats why they got killed ?

You can change your view dude but not the whole world. You can keep your view yourself but don't try to change the world.

Allah hu Akbar