Let us all unite against theanti-Hindu forces in Nepal. CAN WE DO IT?

Let us spread message against what is happening to Nepal.
WE WANT IT TO REMAIN A HINDU STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can we unite?
This will be the real challenge.
Look at how Indian medicos/engineers are uniting against job reservation.

Well, OUR RELIGION,HINDUISM THE ODLEST RELIGION IS BEING REMOVED FROM NEPAL. AND NO ONE IS BOTHERED? SICKENING.

Do you know what troubles start if this happens.
PLEASE ALL WAKE_UP AND SEND A STRONG MESSAGE TO THE CORRUPT & CROOK POLITICIANS IN NEPAL.

WE WANT NEPAL TO REMAIN HINDU!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They say that all that religious violence happened in India because of its secularism.
Secularism is being made a convenient scapegoat without any rhymes or reasons. The BJP-Party in India engineered massacres of Muslims from Ayodhya to Gujarat to whip up Hindu fundamentalist nationalism to come to power - and now they warn Nepal that under "Secular Nepal" more of the same will happen. Hey, these guys are holding Nepal hostage. They, are in effect saying, we will incapacitate Nepal unless its government redeclares Nepal as a "Hindu state"? And they are not saying you can blame us for that – but you have only your ‘secular status’ to blame? This is blackmailing Nepal. This is what I meant when I said using the Hinduttva card, India wants to meddle in Nepal's politics and destiny. And like I have argued the Nepali Hindus in Sajha are playing right into the hands of these India-based fundamentalist orgs and political parties and their stooges (best exemplified by Bharat Keshar Simha) in Nepal

That all that religious violence in India happened/happens owing to India's secular status per se has NEVER been properly established. As a student of econometrics, I would go as far as to say that is not even possibly to credibly establish this relationship.

The rise of religious violence in India happened because the only way BJP, Shiva Sena, VHF and the like can come to power is if they engineer massacres of Muslims, Dalits and chamars. And yet they want to blame it all on Secularism.

I feel sorry for the Nepali Hindus for playing right into their hands.

Any wonder that the Nepali Hindu priests play second fiddles to the Bhattas from South India at Pashupati Nath temple.

“Hindu Nepal” benefits India-based Hindu fanatics primarily – and their stooges in Nepal secondarily. The rest of us, whether Hindus, Muslims or whatever, lose!

What the SPA did was "undo" the undemocratic thing that the King and HIS Chamchas had done to Nepal long ago: i.e. foist the "Hindu tag" on the country in the most undemocratic fashion.
"ONE UNDEMOCRATIC STEP IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY ANOTHER UNDEMOCRATIC STEP."

IF U KILL SOMEBODY THEN U SHOULD BE KILLED TOO??I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT MAY BE U DO.THEN DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT.IF U DON'T CALL UR SELF DEMOCRAT THEN I AM FINE WITH UR STAND.

MAY BE IT WOULD BE RIGHT IF THEY HAD USED DEMOCRACTIC PROCESS TO DO SO.WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM AND SPA?

Sanskrit is the mother of a lot of languages spoken in this region. Rather than protesting government spending money on Sanskrit, it would be wise to ask for similar funding for other language studies too. Nepal has always been a safe haven for all beliefs. Has not been that, why Nepal has been providing the freedom loving Tibetans a respected refuse? Even schools like Tashi Namgyal School which teaches Tibetan scripture has been recognized and helped by the state. I am not saying it is bad, it is a good thing from the state. Similarly state should invest in Newari, maithali, etc. etc. language. So, why single out Sanskrit? It is our heritage, if one finds it hard to learn, at least don't hate it. If it was not for Sanskrit, Nepali language wouldn't have been there. The funding from temples come from the worshippers who are Hindus and not from anyone else; the embezzlement of the fundings is another issue to be concerned about. It is very sad to see how many in Nepal have adverse feeling towards Hinduism. The complaints from Dalit janajatis is justified as they haven't been treated well by the upper casts, but the tirades from other beliefs .....unbelievable. Again, don't blame Hinduism to support Secularism, there might be other true and just reasons you can use to defend secularism, as this word in itself is a good and meaningful word. Even from the long list of discussions, we can see, how SPA's action has instigated conflicting ideas and streams of blamings among us, which wasn't there before.

What about them Inhumane Animal Sacrificial Ceremonies ? That is supposed to be very PC huh ! WTF is this BULL about Hindu's being the most peaceful religion in the wole. he he descrimination btween the different castes, constant bickwering and power clashes amongst the elites, and the bloody war with the Muslims in India. he he Peaceful MA ASS !!

Karmapa,
Can you please provide the sources to the materials you are making us read here and misguiding the sajha readers?
Where did you get the information from that the state has been funding Hindu organizations?
And I object on making sanskrit compulsory in high school but I favor government spending money on promoting and preserving it. You know it is one of the most important ancient languages in the world to study. It is not only Hindu countries like Nepal, but England, Germany and many other countries in the world who spend their tax money to teach Sanskrit.
You want to welcome religious conflict in Nepal for the sake of bringing change? Now political conflict isn't enough?
'Sanskrit is the worst subject I ever took' re. Yes, it is hard and almost impossible to pass for non-Hindus. But remember those who have the basic background of sanskrit are very likely to be better in Nepali and in linguistic intelligence.

On Christianity,
I am not against conversion if the people give very less value to faith and don't believe on it. But all these missionaries do is literally bribe them to change religion and leave them on their own. Now, as a result of serious innermost confusion, many of those converted people are having mental disorder. And most of those father Sharmas and father Upadhyayas are only after money or those dalits who were titled so, just to encourage other innocent Hindus for conversion.(See, now even Brahmans follow us).

One last time for misguiding people, all Nepali Hindus love Nepal and Nepali. No BHP or BJP can change our belief against our Nationalism.
If you really want to raise voice, make it against the loot like in Pashupati and other previleged positions and everyone will co-operate.

May god bless you.

It is so ironical that Hindus in Sajha are provoking violence from Fundamentalists in India if Nepal becomes a secular country. It almost seems that they will be happy if fundamentalists wage war over religion in Nepal. On the other hand the same Hindus in Sajha are the first to claim Hindus as being peaceful, and Buddha was born in Nepal? Isn't that a double standard? Isn't it hypocritical of you Hindus in Sajha to take as much as advantage of the fact that Buddha was born in Nepal but at the same time want to dominate all other religion with help from the State?

This guy is trying to get attention. he has been posting same thread for so many days. I am sick of this guy. this guy should be thrown out of sajha. this guy do not deserve to be in sajha.

DUDE WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WEATHER OR NOT NEPAL HAS THAT LABEL "HINDU NATION IN THE WORLD"
WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO THE PEOPLE.
WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED ABOUT IT. PPL ARE STILL FREE TO PRACTISE WHATEVER RELIGION THEY WANT TO. NOONE IS MAKING YOU MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN.

I DONT KNOW WHY SPA CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. PERHAPS IT WAS ONE OF MAOISTS DEMANDM, PERHAPS THEY DONT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN PEACE TALK OR WHATEVER IF NEPAL IS NOT CONSIDERED SECULAR. SEE THE DYNAMIC OF THE SITUATION. IN ONE HAND PEACE IS THE PRIME ESSENCE OF THE COUNTRY, GOVERNMENT MAY HAVE MADE SOME COMPROMISE. WHATS WRONG WITH THAT.

NEPAL HAS BEEN UNIQUE FOR SO LONG. IN TERMS OF HINDU NATION. IN TERMS OF FLAG. IN TERMS OF MT. EVEREST IN TERMS OF SO MANY THINGS. BUT WHATS THE POINT OF BEING UNIQUE IF THE COUNTRY IS STILL ONE OF THE POOREST IN THE WORLD, IF HALF OF THE WORLD THINKS THAT IT IS AN INDIAN STATE, IF OUT OF 200 YEARS , WASNT STABLE, DEMOCRATIC, AND NEVER BEEN A PROGRESSIVE STATE. WHATS THE POINT OF THAT UNIQUNESS. AS LONG AS PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE FEAR TO LIVE HOW THEY WANT, PRACTICE WHAT THEY WANT AND PROGREES THEIR LIFE BEING WITHIN THE LAW AND ORDER , ITS GOOD ENOUGH.

HONESTLY, I AM GLAD THAT I AM FROM NEPAL. BUT I AM NOT PROUD ANYMORE TO TELL ME THAT I AM NEPALI. WHAT IS THERE TO BE PROUD OF. LETS FORGET ABOUT UNIQUENESS, RELIGION AND LETS PROGESS TOWARDS BETTER OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY.

JAI NEPAL

DEJA BLUE JUST LIKE YOU I AM SICK OF YOU TOO. SO SHUT THE FUG UP !
ITS A FREE WWW YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT NO ONE IS HOLDING YOU BACK. HE HE GO AHEAD SPILL YO GUTS SON !! HE HE JUST LIKE YOU I HAVE THE FUKING RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT SO SHUT THE FUG UP!! SOB

Imi,

I am not in favor of Hindu country of Nepal, I am in favor of Secular state of Nepal, only in secular state every body is free to practice whatever they believe in, we should learn
to understand the value of ther person.

Imi,

I am not in favor of Hindu country of Nepal, I am in favor of Secular state of Nepal, only in secular state every body is free to practice whatever they believe in, we should learn
to understand the value of ther person.

guys,

Dont go on rampage after christianity only? Few missionaries are good but most of them are for the motives of Conversion only. You Know guys--Islam is also on the same trend but not in full swing as compared to Christainity.

I have the information since few years back that religious moslem organisations from UAE, Saudi Arabia, Mainly rich muslim countries are pumping huge amount of money to built madarasa, Mosques outside of nepal to flourish the Islam. Mainly the money came here is donation from the rich and Muslim religious organisations.

I have read about it some time back in one of the popular newspaper. Many mosques built around Terai regions and swift increase in the population of Muslim lot are testimony to it. Time is not far away to witness the muslim extremist activities in the path to destabilisation of nepal if such trend goes on and on. Lets hope it wont happen here like India.

Thousands protest against Parliament's move to declare Nepal a secular state

Call for restoration of Hindu kingdom

The Associated Press (apwire) Published on 2006-05-24 18:05 (KST)

Thousands of Hindus protested in a southern town Wednesday against the Parliament's move to declare Nepal a secular state when it scaled back the king's powers, officials said.

The protesters rallied in the town of Birgunj, about 160 kilometers (100 miles) south of the capital Katmandu, burning newspapers and forcing markets and shops to close, said Bhim Tiwari, a government administrator in the area.

''We want a Hindu kingdom! Declare Nepal a Hindu kingdom!'' chanted the protesters as they marched through the main streets of the town near the border with India.

The protesters burned tires and blocked key streets and highways, stalling traffic. Tiwari said police were trying to keep control and reopen some of the roads.

The protesters also burned 2,000 copies of Kantipur, the country's largest newspaper which recently published an editorial supporting Parliament's moves, according to Sujit Mahat, a reporter with the paper.

A resolution passed by Parliament on Thursday included a clause that said Nepal would no longer be formally known as a Hindu country.

Nepal's constitution, written in 1990, declared the Himalayan nation a Hindu kingdom and more than 85 percent of the country's 27 million people are Hindus.

http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_view.asp?no=294221&rel_no=1

This discussion is futile. Nepal is never going to be a hindu state again. personally i don't know if a secular state means more religious intolerance or more religious harmony. I think Nepal is progressing towards a good future. in order to make sure that sanatana dharma remains in its pristine conditions hindus need to work on actively campaigning against racial and caste differences. The essence of sanatan dharma is secular itself so secularism is a part of hinduism.

i am waiting for that day when swami Prapannacharya (a kirati) becomes the head priest of pashupatinath temple. i am waiting for that day very anxiously

Birbhadra you know how to contradict yourself. You wrtoe Hinduism is secular!!!

That is what we all are trying to say. And that is the purpose of this discussion.

You say discussion is futile.
IT WILL BE FUTILE IF WE DO NOT DISCUSS AND LET MAOISTS-TERRORISTS CONTROL OUR COUNTRY, OUR DAILY ACTIVITIES, OUR MEDIA, OUR SCHOOLS, OUR OFFICES, AND OUR LIFE!!!!!!!

Wake-up and find the trouble that is starting!!!!!
ALREADY PROBLEM STARTED IN BIRGUNJ, EVERYTIHNG WAS CLSOED, BECAUSE OF NEPAL BEING DECLARED SECULAR!!!!!!!!!!

Please wake-up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Maoists should take care of those few so called "Hindu Nationalists". They were dead scared to speak out in the Maoist country after the Maoists took care of few of so called "Hindu Pandits" in the last few years.

ha ha ha !!! Invoke them Comrade Vishnu and Comrade Shiva !!

As the caste battle within Hinduism there is difference between Roman Catholic, Protestant; Sia and Sunni. So, all religions have their own positive and negative points. Hinduism definitely is one of the most peaceful religion in this world. Go to Afganisthan and start pointing fingers on their religious ways and you will see.

Harkey
I dont have to go that far...I can see "Hindu" extremists right next door in India.

Of course, Bajaranga Daal and Shiva Shakti Sena are the ones, I don't say they are correct. But why are you all pointing fingers on Hinduism rather than giving plus points of secularism? There are people who will understand the benefits also.