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 LAKERS, 2008 Champions

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Posted on 06-11-08 9:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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lakers would be travelling to boston with the series leading 3-2 and goona crown the chamipons in Boston . .. .What ull think folks. .. .
 
Posted on 06-17-08 11:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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well.. there is always next year.

Go Lakerssssssss!


 
Posted on 06-18-08 12:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Congratulations Celtics, The better team won!!

Go Mavericks


 
Posted on 06-18-08 12:09 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Overall history chants the glory of Lakers. Diz the way time's been treatin them forever.

Yea zee bro there's always a next year.... neway zee tanum bro.... Jay Sambho!!!


 
Posted on 06-18-08 9:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ANYTING IS POSSIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

GO CELTICS... Lakers can't handle THE TRUTH...


 
Posted on 06-18-08 9:22 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Robin (Kobe) can't win without Batman (Shaq).

ROBIN U Definitely Can't Handle the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Posted on 06-18-08 9:32 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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MVP? More like MIA

Kobe Bryant made just seven of 22 mostly wild shots. He had just one assist. He had four turnovers. The league MVP was unable to carry a team that needed carrying.
June 18, 2008

BOSTON — In the end, the chant became fact, the screaming pleas of throaty New Englanders transposed into a sinking reality for silent Angelenos.

In the end, the crazy dream that the Lakers could quickly turn dysfunction into destiny ended when the Boston Celtics slowly turned them into chowder.

L.A. Beat.

And how.

An NBA Finals that began with the Lakers spraying wild streams of hope across the Southland ended Tuesday with those same Lakers in a small and embarrassed puddle.

Which the Celtics splashed through. Again and again. Loudly and messily and triumphantly in a 39-point victory that gave them their record 17th NBA championship.

The final score in Game 6 was Celtics 131, Lakers 92.

The final count in Finals games was Celtics 4, Lakers 2.

The final scene was green and white confetti blanketing brown parquet, small tears blanketing giant cheeks, fans tumbling over barricades onto the floor as the Lakers tried to escape.

"Man, man, man," said the Celtics' Kevin Garnett, saying it all.

The final cheers were heartfelt songs filled with the relief of fans who have waited 22 years since the Celtics' last title.

But the final chants were more compelling, because they were directed at you-know-who.

In his best chance at establishing his legacy as a championship player without Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe Bryant was seemingly burdened by something even heavier.

He made just seven of 22 mostly wild shots. He had just one assist. He had four turnovers.

The league MVP was

AWFUL, unable to break through even the most basic of one-on-one Celtic defenses, unable to carry a team that needed carrying.

In the six games of the series, he shot poorly, led inconsistently, had only one really dramatic moment, and that was on defense.

And, so, in voices that seemingly shook the TD Banknorth Garden, with Bryant standing at the foul line in the third quarter, here came those chants.

"You're . . . not . . . Jordan!" the fans sang, referring to Michael Jordan.

No, clearly, at this point he is not.When Bryant began the fourth quarter on the bench with his team trailing by 29 points, they chanted again.

"Where . . . is . . . Kobe?" they sang even louder.

Today even the most diehard Bryant fans must be asking themselves the same thing, in wondering how far he can lead a team by himself.

"Once you taste defeat, that makes you a little tougher," said Bryant.

Other Lakers were just as deserving of the jeers.

Lamar Odom had two baskets and three turnovers and not one offensive rebound for a team that combined for a stunningly low two.

Pau Gasol had four baskets and five turnovers and the indignity of being forced into a jump ball by a guy -- Garnett -- using just one hand at the time.

"I thought we played on our heels from the very get-go," said Coach Phil Jackson. "They overran us. . . . We never met that energy all night tonight."

Before the game, if the Lakers were to lose, I was considering writing a column extolling this season's amazing turnaround and applauding them for an inspiring effort that ended at the feet of a clearly better team.

Before the game, if the Lakers were to lose, I was reminding everyone how their best inside player was in street clothes, and how Andrew Bynum's return next season should make them NBA favorites.

But after what happened in the game, how could any of us believe any of that?

They need more than Bynum. They need toughness in the middle. They needed maturity everywhere.

"We were surprised we were here, and we're glad that we had an opportunity," Jackson said. "But whenever you get this opportunity, you don't want to let it slip away, and we did."

How bad did it slip?

In the last seven minutes of the second quarter, the Celtics outscored the Lakers, 26-6, with a lineup that included three Celtic subs.

How bad did it look?

Garnett stalked around the court waving and chanting, a pep rally celebration -- with 5:07 left in the game.

The fans began chanting, "Nah-nah-nah-nah . . . goodbye" -- with 4:53 left.

Paul Pierce began doing a disco dance on the Celtic bench -- with 2:21 left.

Speaking of bad, yeah, the guy who began the series being carried off the floor and placed into a wheelchair was the Series MVP, an award that Pierce should place next to his Oscar.

"This is unreal," said Pierce in his acceptance speech.

I agree. I picked the Lakers to win in five games. The Lakers could not have won this series if it had gone 25 games.

I discounted that the Celtics' three veteran stars -- two of them acquired last summer -- would not be denied the championship that had thus far eluded them.

I didn't give them enough credit, and I gave some of the untested Lakers way too much credit.

So, too, apparently, did Jackson, who took the unusual step of threatening roster moves even before the cheering stopped.

"We have to get some players if we're going to come back and repeat, to have that kind of aggressiveness that we need," he said.

So when they return next fall, some of the Lakers might be new.

After this awful farewell, it is hoped that some of them will also be improved.

Bill Plaschke can be reached at bill.plaschke@latimes.com. To read previous columns

by Plaschke, go to latimes.com/plaschke.

 
Posted on 06-18-08 11:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bash

You wrote in your original post:

akers would be travelling to boston with the series leading 3-2 and goona crown the chamipons in Boston "

How true and I admire your clairevoyence.

Lakers indeed travelled to Boston, with the series leading 3-2 and crowned the champions in Boston.

Rolling rally information:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/another_rolling.html

I will be there in the Boston common area as I took a day off from work.


 
Posted on 06-18-08 12:32 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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shirish dai,

                     Hope you going to take some pics and upload in here


 
Posted on 06-18-08 12:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sure Himalaya.
 
Posted on 06-18-08 1:18 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You guys are so lame!!!

Batman and robin??? LOL, I dont understand you knuckleheads... you call Kobe "robin"... And SHAQ this great champion... have you ever considered how fortunate that fat f--k has been his entire career???? First, it was Penny when he used to be the next Magic, then he went to the lakers and it was Kobe, then with miami it was dwayne wade... Yah he was a great player, but at the same time, have you ever considered how many championships guys like Patrick Ewing and David Robinson would have, had they had a kobe, penny or a wade as their teammate??? So the question is, how much of those championships are because of shaq and how much credit should be given to kobe... in my mind, its equal... but then again, thats just me...

About the TRUTH!!!! Where was the truth when your sorry a$$ Celtics were winning 20 games a season? Where was the truth when he took his team to the playoffs TWICE in 10 years before KG and R-Allen came along?????

Anyway, I rest my case with you fools. Enjoy this while it lasts. KG is one of my favorites, and I am happy that he won a ring, but I hate your stupid green team and I especially hate you stupid band wagon fans!!!


 
Posted on 06-19-08 8:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Jackson didn't make right moves vs. Celtics

by Randy Hill

Veteran columnist Randy Hill is a frequent contributor to FOXSports.com.

 

Boston's Doc Rivers was able to feed off of the work done in October to score a coaching victory over one of the game's sideline superstars. And while it's true that the Los Angeles Lakers' eventual collapse was a team effort of player malfunction, the Celtics also enjoyed an advantage in tactics and adjustments.

Admittedly, many strategic devices that were attempted by Phil Jackson may have died from implementation failure, player stubbornness or player misunderstanding. But it's also a coach's responsibility to make sure the message is expertly imparted.

That charge typically plays to the strength of Jackson, who checks in as one of the leading psychologists in NBA coaching history. However, based on witnessing Paul Pierce outplaying Kobe Bryant, it also seems ridiculous to refuse acknowledgement that Jackson was out-schemed by Rivers.

Let's return to the training camp reference by noting the Celtics arrived for duty armed with incoming All-Stars named Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Teamed with Pierce, the recently dreadful C's automatically received expectations of Eastern Conference supremacy, if not total league domination.

Rivers also came to the party with Tom Thibodeau, a new associate head coach who earned considerable defensive chops as an apprentice to Jeff Van Gundy. While Thibodeau deserves the hosanna chorus bestowed upon him, and KG was the spiritual marshal for Boston's defensive commitment, Rivers is the guy signing off on game plans and adjustments.

While the Celtics were refining their ability to crowd the strong side, attack ball screens, deny dribble penetration, rotate, recover and take charges, the Lakers — based on the evidence — must have made only a brief investment in team defense during camp.

The only sign of a defensive system from Jackson is his traditional refusal to attack ball screens. Based on a reported disinterest in surrendering defensive rebounding position, his post players are instructed to back away from the screener, forcing the on-ball defender to deal with the screener and ballhandler on his own. This strategy often results in open jumpers for the ballhandler or easy pick-and-pop opportunities for the screener.

In the past, Jackson would make slight adjustments when needed, but his current roster does not include committed perimeter defenders like Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen or Ron Harper.

In the Finals series, his Lakers also were annihilated by the straight-line dribble penetration of Pierce, who often was matched against Vladimir Radmanovic or Luke Walton — two players who couldn't guard a bear in a phone booth.

Phil seemed content to keep the C's within arm's length and save Bryant for checking Pierce in the fourth quarter. Rivers' adjustment to this potential loss of dribble penetration was to use Garnett as a screener, a maneuver that involved Pau Gasol as an impediment to his own team's defense. Gasol, you may have noticed, is another softy who doesn't bend his knees or slide his feet and had no idea what angle was needed to "flatten out" Pierce's attempts to turn the corner off of the screen.

While Gasol wasn't a Laker back in October, it seems impossible to imagine that someone who once played under Hubie Brown has no clue in defending screen-roll. It was hideous to watch.

When not dealing with screen-roll, Jackson's Lakers attempted to mitigate their one-on-one mismatches with Pierce and Garnett by forcing those players into help. Unfortunately, the on-ball defenders either forgot which direction the help was supposed to come from or their teammates were tardy in arriving. For the most part, the Lakers were forcing baseline — a tactic that's been in vogue for about 20 years — but the rotations were brutally late or nonexistent.

Forcing stars into help was a fine Jackson adjustment that may have worked if the appropriate rotations were instilled during training camp. It also should be noted that help-side defense requires rotation and closing out of open shooters.

The Celtics were far superior to the Lakers in closing out, which seems to be another manifestation of training-camp preparation.

One seemingly astute Jackson adjustment was to assign Bryant to guard Rajon Rondo, a young Celtic capable of chipping most of the paint from the rim. This tactic would enable Kobe to leave Rondo and use his quickness and strength to double on Garnett and Pierce or dive into passing lanes.

It also allowed Bryant to completely ignore Rondo, a decision that invited the Boston point guard to push the ball in transition and get into the lane before being accosted by any Laker defender. Instead of having a defender stop the ball and flatten out Rondo's dribble far above the three-point line, Rondo darted into the lane, waited for half-hearted defensive help to arrive and then pitched out to spot-up shooters named Ray Allen, Pierce, Eddie House or James Posey.

It should be noted that when confronted by double-team tactics, Rivers used the veteran House to make the Lakers pay from the perimeter, while P.J. Brown received considerable burn as a big man who knows just when to dive to the rim if left unguarded or where to make the extra pass.

For the record, keeping Gasol on Garnett wasn't a completely rotten idea; it provoked KG into perimeter shots (he missed a bunch during middle stretches of the series) and kept him from camping in the low post.

The Lakers weren't much better on offense.

The obvious key for Boston was making Kobe's points or facilitation opportunities difficult to come by. With KG and Kendrick Perkins lurking near the rim, the C's used the same ball-side-crowding scheme that helped them control LeBron James.

Bryant was limited to 40-percent shooting in the series and — with the exception of his marvelous Game 3 — didn't make frequent trips to the free-throw line. Kobe certainly helped the Celtics' cause with impatient fade-away jumpers or contested 3s when one hard dribble followed by a ball reversal would make the defense more vulnerable. We also can be fairly certain that Phil never encouraged Kobe to jump into the air to find a passing angle against a superior defensive team.

Boston's ability to crowd the lane was enhanced by Jackson's celebrated triangle offense, a system that requires tweaks when team defense crowds the strong side and switches the off-ball back screens on the weak side.

While the triangle offers corner-fill deployment on the ball side, the two Lakers on the weak side aren't spaced far enough away to open Bryant's driving lanes against a great help-defending team.

One formation that would take away much of the help Boston brings is the dribble-drive motion offense used by John Calipari's Memphis Tigers. It's a four-out, one-in alignment that — in theory — would put shooters such as Radmanovic (or Sasha Vujacic) in one corner and Derek Fisher in the other.

Gasol would start on the weakside block (keeping Bryant's driving lane open), with Lamar Odom at the guard spot above the three-point line opposite Kobe. Even though dribble-drive tactics may be anathema against great help defense, the help defenders would have more territory to cover. This would lead to longer close-outs if Celtic defenders were required to assist on Bryant's attempts to attack the basket.

OK, so it seems silly to suggest a new offensive system in the middle of a series, but one realistic alteration was almost totally ignored. That, of course, is the screen-roll scheme using Bryant against the hard show or all-out trapping of Boston.

High screen-roll created gaps in the defense that the Lakers exploited — via the slip screen from Gasol — until Boston rotated early to Gasol. The Lakers countered by flashing Odom to the opposite mid-post for a catch and lob to Gasol ... and it worked. But when the C's dropped another defender to take Odom's flash away, the Lakers didn't adjust. Instead of putting a shooter in either corner to space out the help, Jackson left Fisher and Radmanovic, for example, lurking on the nearby wings, where their defenders could crowd Kobe and still have space to close out any shot opportunities.

Instead of sending Fish and Vlad to the corners, the Lakers just quit running screen-roll.

It's a simple adjustment.

At least the Lakers now have more than three months to think about it.


 
Posted on 06-19-08 8:44 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You dont have to over analyze this series.... I think the supporting cast for Kobe was missing a lot of open shots in the beginning of the series, and towards the end, their confidence was shot and they stopped even attempting to shoot... People call them soft etc... but you gotta realize this is the same team that beat a very physical Utah and a very physical San Antonio team. They ll be back next year. I dont know if Boston will make it back to the finals, coz once Detroit revamps, its going to be tough.


 
Posted on 06-19-08 9:08 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sleepyspur

I don't analyze - others do and make living out of it.

Let us enjoy the momment and we will worry about next year.

Winning back to back is hard thing to do nowa days - Only Spurs can do.

So I do not expect Celtics to be the same Celtics next year- but who knows ?


 
Posted on 06-19-08 10:13 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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You are right, lets enjoy the moment. If I were the Celtics, I would have a HUGE WAGON in the parade ;-)

The Knicks have been horrible past few years, yet the fans still show up... even if it is to boo the players, especially the coach... thats loyalty...


 
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Link to the pictures of Celtics Parade

http://picasaweb.google.com/mabi.singh/CelticsParade

Last edited: 19-Jun-08 12:56 PM

 
Posted on 06-19-08 3:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There is a live broadcast of celebration at TD Garden in Comcast sports net.


 
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Posted on 06-19-08 4:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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wow, can't imagine that this thread is still alive and kickin'. you should read/hear the bashing the lakers are getting back home. but hey, it's been a great franchise. i guess everyone was surprised that the team made it to the finals in spite of how they started the season. the sad truth: simply no match to the mighty celtics. the better team (in every possible freakin' way) won. lets see what kind of adjustments the lakers make. there's already talk that odom will be traded. here's to lakers for 2009 (a bit too early, eh?). the title to this thread should also read - 2009. ;)

 
Posted on 06-19-08 5:48 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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midwestdude

I don't see why Lakers should not be bashed ?

Most of the sports pundits and analysts predicted that Lakers are going to win in Game 6 or 7. The Odds (event/non-event) of winning were 2 to 1.

Lakers have the best player on the earth.

They have one of the most celebrated coach.

 They have most celebrated fans.

And the performance in Game 6 damaged the whole build up of the Lakers organization - just like Patriots collapsed with Giants.

It looked like Zen Master did not do much. I would blame him for the collapse. The finals are not the time to experiment. Bringing in Mihm was a joke. It took him so long to figure out what was going on when they blew the lead by 24 points. Loosing by 39 points made them look ridiculous and inept.

In the contrary, the lowly coach Doc Rivers seemed smart and knew exactly how to contain the Kobe. The greatest offensive team of 07/08 were very limited with their offensive capabilities.

If you scroll up, I have said that the defense generates offense. Thats what Kobe said in his post game interview.

It would have been better for the Lakers to lose game 5, than surviving and have that humiliating loss in Boston.


 
Posted on 06-19-08 6:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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shirish, what you've said is true. no arguing that, being a lakers supporter, after game 4 i stopped watching the games. i knew for sure celtics would win. the 2 games lakers won, weren't because they played extraordinary but because celtics were not playing hard enough @ staples.

i wouldn't only blame the zen master, the team is responsible, incl him. the season MVP couldn't play like one, and look at others like walton, the whole playoffs he was just romping around. playing boisterously. reminded me so much of 2002 fifa world cup when brazil thrashed germany in the final.

 



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