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Posted on 04-25-06 8:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Baburam Bhattai said in an interview to BBC that reinstatement of the parliament is "dhoka" and SPA violated the 12 point agreement. What does this mean? Does this mean that the civil war will continue??
 
Posted on 04-25-06 8:52 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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some negative points is everywhere, start learning to accept those nepalese. learn to tolerate small faults. otherwise all nepalese will die asking for democracy. Likewise now baburam is trying to put condition in critical situation, again.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 8:57 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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IT is nothings guys.. it was well planned... mao won't come to the line....count on...now forget about beautiful nepal
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:05 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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it's all plot.. I am not surprised....
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:10 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Maobadi was with the political parties because they(SPA) was after the king.... so it was kinda common plot for them...tara SPA actually didnt want that all they want was to be in Power ani Maoist also took SPA as a fcking ladder...Now it will be interesting to see how so called friends ( SPA and Maoist) will fight coz India will want them to be named as terrorist and girija babu will name them terrorist.wait and watch ..the worse is yet to come.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:18 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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NC is going to remove the "terrorist" tag from the maobadis but maobadis have vowed not to stop their killing rampage. It will be interesting how GpK will/can convince India to hand over the maobadis after the terrorist tag is removed.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:21 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Yeah and all those MORONS screaming DOUQWASHI !! DOUUQWASHI !!
Aaayo aaayo DOUUQWASHI...DOUUQWASHII FUSSA Bhanya yehii ho.
People like Poonte, Nepe, Birbhadra, Prajatantra etc etc were talking as if King gives up power and restores democracy everything will be fine. he he he
THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE KING IT IS_________________________(fill in the blanks).
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I agree with BathroomCoffeee. I never thought that the problem was the King either. Didn't we have enough problem before Gyane sacked the parliament? What kinda democracy we have now if Girija will be the PM again? I thought the Nepalese people would make a better decision this time by allowing new bloods to step forward. But here we go again!! Nepal will be more fuked up now. The public couldn't have asked for anything more???
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Unless Moist take SingDurbar and Royal palace they'll not give up violance. They are fighting to get power without election. Moist knows that free and fair election can't give them single sit on the parliment. After 2046 they choose terroist path cause they couldn't win election. Less than 1% support their move.
There should not be any compromise with the moist unless they join mainstream politics.
I don't know when moist will realize the mistake they are making every single day!
 
Posted on 04-25-06 11:47 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I think the Maoists will continue to say this (dhoka) until the new government announces elections to constituent assembly for two reasons:
#1) Like any other political entity they are trying to make the most of the situation. Since they know that many people would have liked to see republic straight without the parliament, they want to cash in on that mood right now and see if that can give them some political mileage. This is a bit dishonest given their commitment to the 12-point understanding which clearly states reinstatement of the parliament-new gov.-election to constituent assembly as the main part of the margachitra (roadmap)
#2) The seven parties got what they wanted first--their parliament where they have a representation except for one or two parties (like CPN-ML of CP Mainali and CPN United of Bishnu B. Manandhar). The Maoists have nothing in it. Their rejection of the current offer might be political tactics to press the SPA alliance and the new government to opt for constituent assembly, immediately.
My two cents.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 12:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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i hate baburam bhattarai. he is beda more than scholar. banduk ko sahara ma sabda ra bichar ko war gharne . he dont have confidence on his knowledge
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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HELP!!! No matter how hard I try, I don't see better days coming for Nepal. First of all, I don't think there will be a constituent assembly at all. I don't think the king will let that happen. SPA were against it too when they were in power. Second, even if they manage to have CA, what next? From today's move, we already see that nothing will be changed. Uhi neta haru, uhi bajhabajh. What we needed in Nepal is fresh new faces, new ideas, new policies. But even after the CA, it is clear from today that it will not happen because Girija, or Madhav or Prachanda are not going to let the new faces take power.

Therefore we need a revolution. Not a revolution in the street, but a revolution in these parties where new ideas can flourish.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Theo,
The main problem in Nepal is the insurgency not the corruption of the parties or the kings rule. These are minor as compared to the insurgency in which 13,000 lives are lost and counting. Nepal will not move an inch unless this insurgency is quelled. Maoabdis will not give up arms regardless of the change in political landscape. Let us all work together to get rid of the insurgency than we can change what ever necessary.
Unless people like you and me do our best from our level to get rid of this insurgency, it will not go away.
-Shiv
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Well, enemy of my enemy is my friend. So that logic was what prevailed in the formation of Maoist-SPA alliance. But now, with the king somewhat a lesser influence in the picture for the time being, naturally, each group is trying to get the upper hand in the matter. I think the current Maoist stance is nothing more than just that, a stance, to make sure they come on top or near-top when the dusts settle.

So, let's see what happens come Friday. Contituent Assembly is a sure thing. It's going to happen. Now, how it happens is the question. And that will determine whether we will be able to ride the night-bus again, eat dinner at Mugling, and what not without any fear from the armed forces or the MB's.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The maoists should lower their tone!

The king has said that the re-instatement of the parliament is as per the sentiment of the movement and to be carried on according to the roadmap of the 7 parties.

And the roadmap of the seven parties is the-interim government and election of constituent assembly and SPA leaders are comitted for. This is what the maoists also wanted. Now the SPA should establish contact with the maoists and try to involve them in the interim government. Keep the Royal Nepal and Maoist army under UN supervision.

What I didn't like about Girija is he couldn't refuse the offer of premiership. His political height would have been doubled had he decided to give this chance to someone else.
Girija has been prime minister 9 of the 12 years of Democracy Nepal.

I would prefer leader like Narahari Acharya, if it has to be from Nepali Congress. We have to warn the leaders that no CIAA chargeshitted leaders can go in government any more.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:43 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shiv,

It may sound like chicken-or-the-egg kind of argument, but I think the insurgency is the outcome of 12 years of SPA rule. Yes, it definitely needs to be crushed, but it is like cutting a branch rather than removing the root of a weed. We may crush the Maoist violence. But unless the the social norms that existed in our society and more specifically in the parties are not changed, the insurgency will show up in one form or other. In other words, if all the politicians are corrupt like they were last 12 years, violence like Maoism will keep happening.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:46 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Let's hope positive that maoist dissatisfaction is just to maintain pressure on SPA leadership so that they don't go out of the rail.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 1:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Shiv,
Its the corruption that led to insurgency. But people here were camouflaging the real problem with Gyaney chor desh chood bullshit(not that he is any better). I wonder how sucessful this Republican movement is going to be with guns pointed at their head.
 
Posted on 04-25-06 2:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bathroom coffee...I have always agreed your comments..........You make a lot ofsense.........Hey bro go to times of India and read their posting.......on Tales of two monarchs........I wrote some them a response.....wanna join
 
Posted on 04-25-06 2:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Theo,
I do agree that the insurgency was fueled during the party rule but I think the insurgency was born out of greed for power and money, nothing more. They used maos idea because it appeals to the peasants and you know most of us are peasants. Regardless of how it got started we face a problem that is not easy to quell. Regardless of the change in political landscape maobadis will not give up arms. Arms are their only means to prove their existence and power. Without arms maobadis will be nothing.
The most important issue is how girija can convince India to help him get rid of the maobadi leaders who are in Delhi safe heaven.
India used maobadis as a wild card against the parties to keep them in check. Without Indias active cooperation and participation this insurgency will not go away.
 



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