There were few intellectuals who were very vocal that maoist had contributed so much for Nepalese .They were stressing that Maoist created awareness and all.But what was ultimate contribution of Maoist to welfare of Nepal? They hadn't imagined this :more than dozen seperate armed outfit following the successful path led by maoist.

http://kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=115538

I always said may be the objective was good but the path adopted was bad.In one of the thread "Terrorism" . One year ago , this debate was going on Whether to call these people terrorist or liberation army.Now , questions to these individual who supported Maoist cause like looote kukur and others .Don't you think JTTM sss ,Cobras and tigers a are freedom fighters?Do you equally have respect for these people newly mushroomed freedom fighters and why shouldn't we fulfill their demands and not divide your Nepal (which you love so much) cause you will still be reiterating that they are freedom fighters. Now , Nepal is in the verge of disintegration due to racial propaganda by maoist backfired . Do you still believe it was great contribution??

If you haven't had enough of Nepal and consequences of maoist freedom fight, There are more to come as i had predicted .wait and see.

Mr. SAHAKHOHERO....you are completely exposed dude...i don't think I will have to answer your questions futher.

माओबादिको योगदान् बिकासमा हो वा बिनाशमा, निकै नै छ , कुनै शंका छैन। पार्टिको चस्मा फुकालेर आम जनताको चक्षुले हर्ने भए बिनाशको ताण्डब नाच बाहेक केहि देख्नु हुने छैन। अझ सगौरब भाषण गर्न मात्र बाकी छ, पोलपोटले कम्बोडियामा २० लाख निर्दोष मारेका थिए, हमीले मात्र २० हजार् पनि पुर्‍याउन सकेनौ भनेर। कामेरेड माओ ले सांस्क्रितिक क्रान्ति पछि ७० लाख जनताको चिहान खनेका हुन् र आजको एकाइसौं शताब्दिमा पनि अझै जिउदा छन्, माओका नवसंसकरणहरु।
काम्रेड बाबुराम् भट्टराइकै भनाइ मा पनि राजा बीरेन्द्रसङ कार्यगत एकता भएको अन्दोलन जनताको उन्मुक्तिको लागि हुन सक्ला र? राजतन्त्र फाल्ने अझ संसदबाटै गणतन्त्र फलाक्नु पर्ने चर्को माग गर्नेहरु राजासङ सहकार्य गर्छन त। प्रजातन्त्र र स्वतन्त्रता माओबादिको एजेण्डा कहिलेइ थिएन र हुन सक्दैन। बन्दूकको भर् मा एकदलिय तानशाहि ब्यबस्था नै अन्तिम् लक्ष हुन् तिनका। मित्र महोदय, कहाँ कुन देश मा नगरिकहरुले मौलिक हक भोग चलन् गर्न पाएका छन्, माओका सन्तानहरुले राज चलाएको देशमा?
चिनमा? अहं, एक शब्द सरकार र कम्युनिष्ट पार्टिको खिलाफ बोल्नु पाउन हुन्न। क्युबामा? लिबियामा?
आर्थिक बिकासको उच्चतम बिन्दूमा भनिएको चिनको कम्युनिष्ट सरकारको सक्कलि रुप कस्ले देखेको छ। उत्तर पस्चिम चिनमा अझै भोकमरिले हजारौं मान्छे मरि रहेकाछन्। ७५ करोड मान्छेहरुले खानेपानी र सरसफाई पाएकाछैनन्। बेइजिङ्, साँघाइ, ग्वाँचाउ, आदिको बिकास ले युरोप र अंेरिका लाई बिर्साउने भए नि करोडौं जनताले यावत सुबिधा पाएकाछैनन्, हातमुख जोड्न युग्द गरि राखेकाछन। उत्तर् पश्चिम चिनला ७० प्रतिशत जनता गरिबीका रेखा मुनि कष्टकर् जीवन भोगिराखेका छन्। यस्तो हुन्छ, काम्रेड माओका सन्तानहरुको देखाउने र चपाउने दाँत।
त्यति मात्र होइन, आर्थिक प्रगतिको सूचक भयंकर देखाइेको छ, स्वतन्त्ररुमा पुष्टि गर्ने कुनै संयन्त्र छैन। जे दियो सरकारले त्यहि मानु सिवाए। वातबरण बिनाश कत्ति को भएको छ, मजदूर् शोषण कति को भाको छ, बिचरा हाम्रो देशको मजदूर् हरु तिनकै लालिपोपमा मजदूरको क्रान्ति खोजिरहेकाछन्। के थाहा, संसार भर् कै सबै भन्दा जोखिम देश उनकै माइबापको भनेर।
भारतको उदाहरण लेउं। सन १९७० भन्दा पहिला पश्चिम बंगाल भारतकै दोस्रो ठुलो आर्थिक केन्द्र थियो। सिनेमा उद्योग त्यहि थिए, बन्द ब्यापरको केन्द्र नै थिए। तर माओका नव संस्करणहरुले १९७० देखि हाल् सम्म अनवरत एक् छत्र राज गरि राखेका छन् र अहिले बंगालको स्थान पुछारको छैठौं मा छ। सिनेमा उद्योग मुम्बै सरे, कलकारखाना अन्तै सरे। पहिला जति गरीब थिए आज तिनको संख्या १० गुणाले बढे।
के थिएन, त्यहाँ? राजनैतिक स्थिरता? ज्योति बसुले मात्र ३३ बर्ष एक्लैले चलाए। अझै पनि कोहो मन्त्री त ३० बर्ष देखि एकै मन्त्रालय सम्हाल्दै आएकाछन्। समुन्द्र र बन्दरगाह्, अंग्रेजले बनाइ दिएको आधारभुत संरचनाहरु सबै थिए। तै पनि सबै पलायन भए। किन कि गरीबको नाममा राजनितिगर्ने ढोंगिहरुले जनतालाई गरीब बाट् झन गरीब मात्र बनाउने छन्, नत्र जनता जागे भने, संब्रिद्ध भए भने, तिनलाई भोट हाल्ने को बाकि हुन्छ र?
अझै पनि हाम्रा देशका गरीब जनताहरु, यिनै राजनैतिक नौटंकीबाजहरुले देखाएको नक्कली सपनामा रमाइ रहेकाछन्। बुझ्नेलाई श्रीखण्ड, न बुझ्नेलाई खुर्पाको बींड। तारेमाम, अस्तु!>

Yes JOKER 'samsara'- I do not know where kapoor or jackie chan...looks like you know their names better.

I have never talked about communism or congress....they are just ideology . I talked about 'revolution' not communist or congress.


Whether be it communism or Congress, whether democrat or republic, whether conservative or labour............as long as they bring 'good change' in the country they are appreciated by the people. Dont be 'Bheda' just bcos the party is called democratic doesnt mean they have the best democratic policy. People looks for policy and quality of the leaders not the name.

hahahah This Ramlakhan moustacheo dude, the village idiot is at it again....hahahah NINCOMPOOP SUPPORTS THE REVOLUTION BUT NOT THE IDEOLOGY. WTF??? GET SOME GRAY MATTER STUFFED UP THERE, BUNION CHEEKS...The maobadi's revolution was to bring communism to the forefront, idiot (A system dead bent on ruining the nation completely). Like I said earlier, attend high-school and then go to college and see why this system doesn't work or you could even read my earlier posts on threads on Sajha. You could end up getting an intensive course for free.

hahaha and we're talking about economic systems, dimwit: Capitalism, Communism, Feudalism, Socialism, etc. Where da hell did you get Democrat, Republic or Congress from??? Get a decent education, ya dumb fag and only then come up with stronger points to argue with the dad of your elders here!! hhahahaha

Looks like Mr samsara gots nothing else to write...:)
He keeps talking about his high shools....only 'BHEDA's like you need to go to high school to understand the simple logic.

Mr. Ramlakhan ( I believe you are Mr.)...why are you writing everything 3 times?????

Hey mustacheo, first when you posted the same post thrice I thought it was a simple error...Then you did the same thing (again, I gave you the benefit of the doubt). But now, seeing it for the third time, man, do you even know how to use a computer? Is it your first time posting on Sajha?? If so, get some elementary level computer skillz at least! You're ruining it for all who come to this thread...SOMEONE CASTRATE THIS FOOL BEFORE HE MAKE THIS WHOLE THREAD REEK OF bheda ko geda!! hahahahahah

Guys lets not fight with eachother. This is a good discussiopn that's totally worth debating. This is a good thing going on here right now. Lets respect eachother for the concern given to our country if not for eachother's views.

Yeah I think sajha likes my postings so much ....that they have set it this way.

I cant help it bro!!

You can request to change the setting to one - for your own sake.

Moustacheo, was told time and again this proverb when I was lil: "Bad laborers blame their tools." Why don't you take up some elementary computer classes, maybe that'll help you end up posting like other NORMAL folks do. hahahaha BTW, I'm outta this thread as you Triple Threat posts are beginning to suffocate me.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DONKEY LEARNS TO READ ?


ANSWER : COMMUNIST


I find many donkeys in SAJHA...

basicaly learned donkey = PRACHANDA (GRADUATE DONKEY)
YCL AND PLA = (SENT UP FAILED DONKEY)
FOLLOWERS = (UNDERGRADUATE BHEDA) -------- cause they follow other they dont work.

Communism system itself is wrong.
Communist system's concept is wrong.
Communist system's garne tarika is wrong.
Communist leaders are wrong.
Communist followers are skin heads, so they are never right.
Communist journalist don't know what is journalism. So, they are wrong.

In Nepal civic leaders like Krishna Pahari, are all mukundo dhari communist. Did they every speak against YCL's jyadati? Never ever.

Nepali Post: Nepali Journalists in America: Most of them seemed to get Green Card as if victim of Maoists: when they applied political asylum they claimed that they will be killed by Maoists if returned to Nepal, but within Nepali community they praise YCL and Maoists. NepaliPost.com is now mouth piece of Maoists. Oops, NAJAN is coming soon. Nepali journalists coming one over another name and same set of people, different faces. Did you read recent article on Nepal, one visitor explains about one Najan Member who came here because he got DV, enjoys American life, but frequently he writes in favor of Maoists. Wow, afu chai lottery green card parera america ma Japanese car chadne, jo hijo sathi sanga motocycle ma lift mathyo, tara aja u america ma ayera Nepal Maoism establish garne haru ko defend garchha. Five years later, when the same person applies for US Citizenship, he will answer the question: Were/Are you ever been communist? and his answer will big No in the exam, but he will be still writing article in support of Maoism.

Prachanda will continue to blame 15,000 death on Nepal Army and Police Side. He scares to mention that his party killed 38 innocent people in Madi Chitwan. Does he remember his party burnt down Kajal, a five year old girl, who was in a bus burnt by his cadres? Babu Ram wrote in one article that these were minor mistakes. Mistakes? Redefined a mistake, hm.

Yesterday, Mandale was a nickname for Nepali version of Gabbar Singh, who used to punch or use knife if you go against him or them, but today you will be shot dead if you speak against them: the YCL. Who is more dangerous? Read Nepal patrika about Dadas in KTM, and try to understand the fear that Nepal patrika's write had because he even does not mention YCL and its connection anywhere as Dadagiri in KTM. What is the difference between Milan Chakre, and YCL's working style? Why did not Nepal Patrika dare to compare? Because YCL is much more inhumanly organiZed crime syndicate than these Dadas, at least these dadas have left the country because of fear of Mandule plus police, but YCL does not allow government to take any action against their cadres: next day dozens of bus, trucks are burnt.

Now, Maoist Ministers in Nepal Government organize strike. Wow, do they know what is government? Is this a new culture that you imported from China or it is one of the 10 commandments of Prachanda Path?

What happened to the looted money? Where is hisab kitab? Where did the money the government gave them as allowance go?

These are a very few examples of culture that YCL and Maoists brought to Nepal. I still don't know what positive impact Maoists have made in last 10 years? I see None, other than CHAOS.

Prachanda won't be President of Nepal, not in any case, as long as there is US Embassy in Nepal. Prachanda is paid back for the murder of Mr. Pokharel, a security guard at US Embassy while he was sleeping. Prachanda will / should be killed one day in the same fashion, if not will die like Polpot: a human version of rabies infected dog's death. Polpot's dead body was on bed for several days.

Hisila Yami's claim of connecting Karnali anchal 's remote district headquarters in one year ? Day dream. She will blame it on Ram Saran Mahat for not allocating budget for her projects. Excuse fabricators. Prachanda claimed that Paras made a CD (I am not fan of Paras), Prachanda claimed that Arms were washed away rivers, Prachanda claimed that Royals were planning to attack US Emabssy ...... Where are those proofs, Chaitman?

I recently heard that they want to change Nepali National Flag, and incroporate Hasiya, Bancharo and mudho.

What else will they bring to Nepal? Nepal will be turned to Switzerland of Asia? Wow! Looking forward to hearing excuses.

Thanks god, Girija is still alive. There are only two real people in Nepal who can stand tall, and firm, right now: US Ambassador Morarity, and PM Girija Prasad Koirala.

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WITHOUT THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY WAR LED BY MAOIST, NEPAL TODAY WOULD STILL BE NEPAL.

THEREFORE THIS WAR WAS DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BRING OUR NATION FORWARD.
AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER BLOODS HAS TO FLOW AND SACRIFICE BE MADE IN ORDER
FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW NEPAL.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE CANNOT SEE THAT. THEY WANT TO STICK TO THE OLD SYSTEM.
NOW MAOIST HAS DONE WHAT COMMON PEOPLE COULDN'T DO, IT'E TIME TO FORGET MAOIST WRONG DOINGS AND START REBUILDING NEPAL INSTEAD.

GP U R Abosolutely right!!
My judgement of maoists is that they have bred the culture of violence throughout the country. 1990 democracy can not be blamed for encouraging corruption,rather it gave people power to raise their voice against corruption. Democracy is a self-healing method of ruling where in the parties and leaders with black record are thrown by people. Maoist along with some royalists, took advantage of the weaknesses of the newly sprouted democracy, blamed politicians and the political system for not meeting peoples's aspirations. Had the maoist taken a constructive role during that period, the country wouldnot have tattered to the dirty shape we are witnessing today.

I agree with GP. Big hands!!
I would not be surprised to see a posting in sajha some day that
"Prachanda has been shot dead"

Thanks Guys Gp and Others,

Sajhakohero and Ramlakhan
what is Nepal now Nepal is still Nepal.Answer me what i am asking.Don't give me wishy washy answers.Stick to the topic and point me where and how and in what price,and what has been and will be the consequences?

The question was very simple, do you still consider that Maoist have contributed in the welfare of people, now that the armed struggle by Maoist has ended (at least for now)? How happy are the people? Are they now satisfied with Maoist or the Nepal Govt.? Do you consider JTTM and Tigers and cobras as freedom fighter and support their cause? If you do then are you ready to divide Nepal for the freedom fighters? I didn’t get the answer. As everyone has their cause. Come to think of it, why not give Terai a separate country?

I had written several times a year ago that everyone will start demanding with arms and this is what’s happening .Even if Maoist are in power .The culture of violence will never end .The cycle will go on. One of the after affects of Maoist revolution is giving birth to armed revolution culture in Nepal. How do you think Maoist will suppress this culture by using force again!! Killing Nepalese. So, why you consider RNA or previous Govt. was wrong?

Isn’t it the Violence culture the biggest contribution? New Nepal and New Nepal, sounds really nice .First of all there should be a Nepal existing to create a new one .In vain Maoist have severely damaged the nationality and unity of Nepalese. It isn’t over yet.

Here people gave examples of revolution of Countries like China and similar ones, how much of Human rights is there? How much of freedom do they enjoy? If you are comparing the revolution of China in this context. Do you think there are no more poor and peasants in China? If Maoism was so successful, why is there millions of poor in China? Are they equal now? What kind of policy is there to eradicated poverty? Isn’t rich in China getting richer creating an income gap as in Nepal? What happened even after 30 years in China? How is it any different than Nepal? You see the progress of china right now but what about the poor in China? Weren’t they the ones fighting with Mao against “Tyrant or Bourgeois”? Who became the Tyrants in China?

It is time for evaluation. I will write later what we gained and what we lost and what we are going to lose .Again remember this after a year or two. The basic thing is Politicians know what they want but do not understand what Nepalese people want. They always take name of people and do in the name of Nepalese people. Are they really doing everything for people? They do not understand what has been a binding force and the psychology of Nepalese.

Mr. Ramlakhan,
You should learn to use computer, that submit button is only supposed to be clicked once. Answer, the simple question. Why shouldn’t we divide Nepal, into Terai and Nepal?

RahulVai,
Thanks for reply. Exactly as what you said , How can Maoist advocate for freedom and basic rights when they do not believe in one ?I am not so against Maoist outer appearance what they say outside to the innocent people but their actual intentions are bad and was always bad. When the method to achieve the greater good is bad then it is worthless.

Others,
Again question was very simple to the Maoist supporters, No twisted answer was expected. Why shouldn’t we respect the Terai Freedom fighters and honor them? Why do we call them terrorist? Just because Maoist grew big and is now in power, doesn’t make them a terrorist?

THANKS TO MAOIST THAT ALL NEPALESE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES..............

AND NOW LET'S JOIN HAnd in hand and build our nation INSTEAD OF QUARELLING....

SAJHAkhoHERO, you say "WITHOUT THE PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY WAR LED BY MAOIST, NEPAL TODAY WOULD STILL BE NEPAL" wtf??? you friggin crazy BS minded freak. Listen, Nepal in its old state was much better than it currently was or if it ever will be for the next 100 years (if led by Maoist ideologies). Like I said earlier, Maoism or any forms of government promoting communism is a doomed to a path of economic downfall and a state of regression. You're nuts, damn commie. Your ideaologies were flawed right from the start...Humans are innately selfish and any form of government giving equal status to all (no merit,same pay even if more effort is put in, etc.) is living in a fool's paradise. We're not friggin domestic animals, we can comprehend whats best for us and our progeny and for that we have to think for our own benefit first. Once again, WE'RE HUMANS AND COMMUNISM IS NEVER GONNA WORK FOR US!!...How long do you think these commie master can forcefully bind us in shackles making us believe what they want us to believe?? These chains will break in no time ala Fidel's Cuba (Who's gonna continue his legacy?? They's back to the '60s again as soon he's history, which, given the state he's in, is probably this or next year). Get a life, propoganda promoting fool!! Your thoughts are warped as you are.