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 Nepal: Demand for Newa Sovereign State intensifies

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Posted on 01-19-09 9:08 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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"Various
groups representing the Newa: Community demanding separate State for
the Newars have submitted a memorandum to the Constitution Drafting
Committee on Friday, January 16, 2009."

No offense to any ethnic groups or anyone..I have lots of friend from different ethnic group i grew up wit n I've got tremendous bond with them,but m surprised to c so many demands on separate state..can we afford ? geographically n economically we are such small country. we had lived in harmony among us for so long;Y can't we just be a united force..fight for the rights..fight for the country n live in harmony rather divide this country into small state.there will be so many state..giving ethnic based state..will dis-advantaged minority group already living there from 100s of years..n most important is country cant' afford it @ all..divide us even more....we should be fighting for the Nation not separate state in my view


 
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Posted on 01-19-09 10:38 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ghar ma bhat khaney paiso chaina, bijuli bati, pani kehi ko thegan chaina tara hami sabai lai newar state, madhesi state, limbhuwan state chahiyo....hahaha


people who demand for separate state should be HANGED UNTIL DEATH.


 
Posted on 01-19-09 10:39 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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even just the symbol of Monarchy was enough to hold all the ethnic nepalese groups together. In such a small country like Nepal such demand is really heartbreaking and unnecessary. Back in my home town.......My neighbors are of all different ethnic groups, .....the houses on the right.....shrestha uncle....next to him, Gurung dai's restaurant and above him is Karii uncles house. behind and around our house are many many  houses which has people from all different casts and ethnic groups but has been living there as neighbors since for ever and we know them all like family and their kids are my childhood friends we grew up together and still are best fo friends who would die for each other ...you know TOLE TOLE KO SATHI HARU . Even in school...every kid had a different last name  and came from all different ethnic bacgrounds BUT WE WERE ALL NEPALI AND FROM NEPAL and we dont know anyother way of life. what if they have to leave or we have to leave to a community of similar ethnic groups........THAT WILL NOT SEEM RIGHT OR EVEN NEPAL........whats goin on is beyond our controll or against our wishes.............PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS.....WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS..WE ARE NEPALESE FIRST AND THEN WHATEVER IS NOT IMPORTANT........PLEASE STOP THIS MADNESS.


 
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खै के भन्नु म त यहाँ जे पनि हुँदो रहेछ बिना कारण कुनै एक्सिडेन्टमा परेर मरे पनि शहीद हुँदो रहेछ अब नेपालमा शहीद हरु पनि असन्ख्य हुनेभो । देश एक्दम धनी हुने भो । नहुनु पनि कसरी एक ब्यक्ती शहीद भएको एक करोड पाएपछी। अब त माओवादी लाई की मोज् जतिपनी
मरे राजाको शासनमा सबै शहीद अनी हरेक को नाम मा एक करोड झ्वाम्म । अब त नेपाल पनि युनाईटेड स्टटेस अफ नेपाल हुने भो। २२ से २४ से राज्ये हुने भो। के गर्ने हामी नेपाली हरु आर्का को मात्र कुरा गरेर आफ्नो देश बिगारयौ। कहिले काहि आत्मग्लानी। बेकारमा भोट् दियियो नेपाली कांग्रेस लाई अनी एमाले लाई। हे भगवान अब त सद्बुद्दी देओस यो कांग्रेस र एमाले लाई। खै निरस नै नीरस छ देश को हालत देखेर. --भन्न त सजिलो छ देश बाट लिने होइन देशलाई दिनु पर्छ भन्नु तर देश लाई दिएर देशले पाए पो मन पनि खुशी हुन्छ यहाँ त देश को सातो भरौते नेता हरुले खाएर पो बर्बाद भो देशको सम्पत्ति । बिनश काले बिपरीत बुद्धी स्वहाँआ

 

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Posted on 01-19-09 12:04 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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we almost finish now.


 


 
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Let me make it clear. I am a Nepali, then a Madheshi, then a human being. I don't know much about the importance of having a Newa State, but I don't even think it's important to have a Swayatta Madhesh either.

The reason we are drowning is that there are so many non issues that our leaders, our so called civil society, so called RASTRABADI'S, like to keep us engaged in that we constantly and perpetually have been unable to look out of that for ever.

While we keep fighting wwith each other on Hrithik Roshan issues (Remember BAmdev's interview with Ravindra Mishra on that night in BBC Nepali ? He was encouraging more agitation even after Hrithik said he never said so), lives were lost, public properties damaged..for what? RASTRABADITA ? I don't think so.

While the entire public was doped that with the King gone, with the commencement of new constitutional assembly, Nepal will be NAYA NEPAL..we got that right ? I am not a King or any party supporter, but Kings time was definitely not worse than current rule.

On the positive side, what is that we don't have ? We've got resources, nature has blessed us,we've got a good image throughout the world as honest and hospitable people who r great warriors...

But we don't have one thing..called sense..called vision...called looking outside and beyond the non issues and looking at the bigger issues, important issues which is to improve the economy, infrastructure development, jobs, and so on.

We have become kind of Bangladesh, Pakistan and counties like that where the general public is always regularly doped/ given a certain dosage of drugs like religion, separate state, anti India sentiment, fake nationality, fighting and killing and getting killed for nothing..and thus them and their 200,000 generations can never think of the real issue, while they can't have jobs and education, they r happy they got a separate state.

I don't want a separate state for Madhesi's. But what can I do ? Practically, I'm helpless.
Can the brain say, separate me and I can work independently. Can all fingers be separated and be functional as they will be if they were a fist? Think about it.

And yes, before blaming India and others for funding and fuelling these movements, lets introspect, how clean we are ? If they are acting on their interest, why can't we act on our interest, which is...so many things.
 
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मलाई मान्छेहरु नेवार भन्छन्। तर म मात्र नेपाली हुँ। नेपालमा नेपालीहरुको खडेरी लागेको छ आज। जय नेपाल।
 
Posted on 01-19-09 1:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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GP, babaan singh is caught.but it is more directed by the revenge mentality of maoist rather than any lawfulness. Do you know babaan singh is caught after he made remark that " Maoist are behind the killing of journalist Uma singh".  Immidiately babaan singh was caught without any proper procedure.  There is special law how to caught cabinet member, however, those method were not met.   But overall babaan singh should have been caught but in the lawful way.


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Posted on 01-19-09 2:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The void created by the absence of the super power, the then king,  was certain to create a chaotic power struggle.


Selfish leaders (redundant?) initiate fights and such claims to fulfill there own propaganda, to claim the power for themselves.


 


As an educated citizen, it is our duty and responsibility to not lose our cool and understand that it is not the whole race/cult that is demanding the partition but select few leaders who are willing to break our country to address their motive. As some Newa brothers posted earlier, they don’t want a divided state. If reality is presented in a factual way, most Madhesis wouldn’t also won’t want a separate state. We thus shouldn’t divulge in a race/ethnic politics that the very leaders want us to be involved in.


 


DWI


 
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I am also a Newar but I am against the demand of so called sovereign Newa State. I need Nepal a  whole nation where all nepalese can equally live with harmony. Rahulvai ji what you said is 100% true. But I am surprised why no  political parties and leaders, intellectuals, professors, students, lawyers, civil society no one speaks against this suicidal step? When did a newar from Bhaktapur said he needed a seperate state? when did a newar from kirtipur demanded the same? when did a newar from Lalitpur, Kathmandu and outside valley demanded a seperate state? We all nepalese demanded sustainable peace at the first step of change then gradually other developments. This is the time to do something to stop it. At least we can start signing a petition and submit it to the nepalese embassy from wherever we are.
May Nepal live longer.

 
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That's the spirit guys. This thing is insane.
 
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agree with rahualvai
 
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need one solid strong Nepal  With Rato R Chandra Surya ankit jhanda
 
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I totally agree with rahulvai,maddog grishma..and also other people in the thread. we should be united not divided..if we divide we fail.there were small fraction of people supporting this cause ..because there were only 50000 signature..i think Nepal has way more newari people then that' M happy that we still want to be united as a nepalese..


 


 
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When Do We Learn?
Where is the Feeling of "Our Nepal"?
When will we Actually use our freakin Brain Man?

Nepal Aama ko Ku-Putra haru, everyone wants their own state.
 
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I am also Newar, Newar speaking Newar of Kathmandu. I am really sad to hear this news. I don't think any newar want a separate newar state. I know a lot of Newar in Kathmandu but don't know anyone actually like separate newar state. So, I am kind of surprised how this protest came out all of sudden. It seems like its another political issue to crack down our capital Kathmandu. So far, Kathmandu is the only little safe area in Nepal and seems like these culprit a*sh*le politicians want to create chaos in capital as well. I feel like shooting these politicians. I think its time for us civil citizens to voice against these stupid acts. Now looking at this issues, seems like Terai issue for separate Madhesh is also propaganda created by politicians but not actually wanted by Madheshi people.


Why don't these politicians voice for something good like research on alternative source of electricity.... There are lots of area of improvement in Nepal beside creating separate states and strikes and protests....


Jai Nepal.


PEACE !!!


 
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Man whenever i read any interviews of politicians and are being asked of their party's intensions and actions on issues, they shamelessly spin it and say its not them but its Nepali people's intensions and actions. They are shelfishly acting for their benefits and shamelessly crediting onto Nepalese people. Such is this case as well.

Nepal Aama ko Ku-putra and Ku-putri haru.

 
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Nepal is unoffically law less land so everyone wants a piece of it.

 
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Either you chop Maoists and YCL into pieces,
ELSE
  Nepal will surely be chopped

END

Bahuns sponsored Hindu religion in Nepal ruled Nepal for years and years declaring King as Avatar of God.... and still Bahuns are ruling.. and pushing people to raise all these idiotic demands for separate regions

think about that !!!!
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i am a newar too and i am also strongly against the demand of the newa soveriegn state.i have lots of newari friends and relatives in nepal, however, i have not seen or heard about anyone of them going for this demand. even in this sajha thread i have not seen a single user going for this demand. then isn't this just an unnecessary issue being created? i think this is another issue that the politicians want to create just to make people busy fighting with each other so that they can fulfill their selfishness.

 



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