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Pure_Enquiry
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When one person follows a delusion it becomes insanity but when many people follows a delusion it becomes a religion ~ R. Dawkins.


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Namaskaar
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Hey man How you keep this you tube thing along with your post?? I just know to copy and paste a link. Any insight would be appreciated.


About you post I do agree with it.


Have you watched the movie Creation???  If not highly recommended. It is about the dilema faced byu Charles Darwin while trying to publish his work on the Origin of Species. ( It just got released the week before and is available online to watch)

sarkar123
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Namaskaar
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What a designer :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_EXqdJ4L7I



 


Have you even heard of what happened in Haiti? So much to do for a loving God.


Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? – Epicurus

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Jhapali_Thito
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Sarkar123, thanks for such an enlightening write up. After so many days, I found something readable here in Sajha. Thanks for that bro/sis. 
Pure_Enquiry
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Sarkar123, you have nice justification out there. The way you use words and justify things makes feel good and makes feel peace. However, I DO NOT agree with you at all. To claim an extraordinary things you must have an extraordinary evidence. You cannot say, life is complex so it must be the result of intelligent design. In your words, intelligent designer would be a god. If you don't know the truth then simply say "I don't know." There is nothing wrong with that. However, you are talking really big without any solid evidence. When you claim certain things without any evidence then it simply becomes your belief . When your set of beliefs increases your overall happiness than you start justifying it. You do not believe that life evolved through complex chemical reaction. You cannot just say this is "UNTRUE." You do not have any solid evidence to claim if it is true or not. Life is the most mysterious thing we have ever encountered. Up to this point, scientist are not been able to figure this out. But this doesn't mean there is NO HOPE. Once upon a time, there was no airplane, we now have it. Humans figured it out how to fly up in the sky. It requires time and effort. This is a period of transition. We are gradually transforming to more intelligent being than we were in the past. Right now, we are very primitive and aggressive. If there has to be a scale of civilization, we are on type zero civilization. To understand this mystery of creation and life, we must transform ourselves from type zero to type 3 civilization (type 3 being the most advance, lets say). It is upto us to destroy ourselves or use our brains to go into the deep.
At this point, we all are lost in between immensity and eternity, as said by Carl Sagan. We miss you Carl !!



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sarkar123
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My friend Pure_Enquiry, thanks for your reply. Sorry if my responses have offended you. That was not my intention at all.

It is true that we all have beliefs and what not. The points I have recollected in my response are not just my own but I have taken the cream out of many religious philosophical aspects of the world. For the evidences, sorry but you have to ask yourself. If you say there is no difference between a dead and a living body, I have nothing to say. If you say life can be manufactured by dead elements such as chemicals and by chemical reactions, I have nothing to say there either, nor can you prove it to me. We cannot make a firm statement based on "it might happen in the near future", that would not make a logical argument.

Yes modern science has established many things, which I take positively. In fact, the computer I am typing in right now is also a gift of technological advancement. But has it provided happiness? Maybe it provides happiness for a while, but after some time it goes away. Imagine you are fantasizing about a car. You think, "If I get this car, I will be the happiest person in the world." You get the car, the very first day you actually are the happiest person in the world. But after a while, the amount of pleasure you gain from the car is lessened day by day. This is the nature of material things, they become old and degrade and they give us an illusion of happiness.

Our real identity is spiritual, and only spiritual happiness can be satisfying to us. We are seeking this happiness all the time but we don' know it. We try to replace that with material and temporary happiness, which is even destructive at times. Once that happiness is sucked out, we begin searching for another source of happiness. Just like a thirsty traveller in a desert who thinks every mirage is water. Once we reconnect with our spiritual self, everything becomes proper, and our thirst is quenched. I don't hate science, but I don't agree with some aspects of it which alienates us with ourselves and with the Supreme.
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Lahure Kancha
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Good to see about Richard Dawkins here in Sajha!! (kinda Surprised )
Foundation for Reason and Science!!!

This is my Fav. Lecture
(if you guys need more info do read this book)
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