U know what? God enjoys the pathetic human beings coz no human beings spend lot of wealth in his name, but dunno wher he is coz he has no bmw or ferari, just riding his own traditional car which u know. so, he is getting embarrassed to show his face. If u wanna see him, buy him one 2007 BMW n get his darshan.

wtf??? Buy him a 2007 BMW (what series??) and drive it yourself?? Your post made no sense whatsoever. Your name should be changed from sabaiko satru to sabaile na bujne! LOL!! ;D

was god ever born?...dont kid yourself, there is no god. You want to die with that lie, that there is god..go for it. I think to die with bitter thruth is better than live and die with the suger coated nonsense. But yeah, its your free will..use it falsely in deciding one of the most important eliment for a thinking, rational being, and be led like a flock of sheeps into the ditch of lie lies and more lies

Damn Damn...I didn't see Leonardo's earlier post. Looks like he still hasn't found a job. Hey Leo, heard that gas stations in TX provide employment to Neps and stealing is widely prevalent. Didn't you want a job where you could steal as per you post a few days ago?? Looks like I just helped you with a lead!! Arguing with you is futile as you challenge me to a fight and then you're a no show!! I truly believe there is no God as my prayers of finding you there wasn't answered! Later hater!! Go elsewhere if you are only talk behind the internet's security...A man's word is his bond and you proved you ain't one! So, no more arguing with you. I'm done with your punk azz!!

The God is inside you. The day you die, the God is dead (for you).

yes!!! have been for a long long time

Hey Aviator, Sansar bhanekai ekai nahunu ho. If there is similar people and principles then this world will not exsits. God made all these different people, they have different values and culture, tradition and beliefs, religion and customs. Dont panic!! And all you guys here no need to discuss it more. Even we try to our fullest, we cant make it happen. SANSAR BHANEKAI EKAI NAHUNU HO.

GOD died long time ago

Aviator and others, This question of yours is surprising, because while you seem skeptical of God' s existence, you also seem skeptical of Nietzsche's words, who wrote a century and a half ago "God is dead." But this question presupposes first a certain notion that God might exist--and you don't deny it. You said: "Some say"I am Hindu", some say"I am Muslim". Some say"I am American", some say"I am Afgan". Some say"I am Madhesi", some say"I am Pahade". Some say"I am Communist", some say"I am Congress". What is all this? What are we fighting for? Why so much differences? And why is god letting this happen? Why don't God use his/her chakra (that Geeta talks about) and chop the head of all those shit-heads who do nothing than spread hatred." The last sentence is precisely what you shouldn't think, because this is precisely what God is NOT. God is not the vengeful despote we sometimes picture Him to be, and doesn't kill anybody; if He does, then it answers your questions and we need not seek any further. But since "God is love" then this cannot be the case. You typed: "Every now and then, we hear news of people being killed, we see photos of blood-bloated bodies of men, women, childrens and animals. HOW COULD A LIVING GOD ALLOW THIS?" If this happens, it is precisely because we have turned our back on God. Man's relationship with God is reciprocal. God created man in his image and likeness (and not in form, as somebody said in this thread), which means that man was also endowed with free will (Nepali22901 said it very well). Since the Fall, since he turned away from him, God has sent His grace upon mankind, and even sent His Son (Christ) to help mankind in his quest back to God. Now, we are free to accept this grace or not. One of the Church's greatest Saint, St. Athanasios the Great, explained it beautifully and simply: "God became man so that man might become God." This clearly shows that it is a reciprocal action, that mankind's relationship with God is not a one-way relationship. Why is it so? A relationship is, by essence, reciprocal; if not, it is no longer a relationship. A love relationship involves two persons who give to one another, and not uniquely one to the other. Similarily, friendship exists only between two persons at least, who exchange and accept the other's friendship; if not, it cannot be called friendship and should rather be called coercion. Therefore, if man turns his face to God and accepts His grace to become in His likeness, that is Love, those evils you listed would not happen. In this sense, we, not god, are responsible for our own misery. You said: "And above all, Man, a rational animal, who is superior amongst all other animals, has respect for no other species. We slaughter animals just merely for the sake of food, clothes, rituals, and sometimes even for fun. Is there any species that man hasn't eaten. Say ants,frogs,cockroaches,snakes,dogs,..........,whales. Do they not deserve to live? HOW COULD A LIVING GOD ALLOW THIS? Will we die of starvation if we don't eat meat? Will we die of cold if we don't wear leather or fur? AND HOW COULD A LIVING GOD allow man to slaughter poor animals on his/her name. Have we forgotten that even animals can response to stimuli, even they have the right to live. And what's their fault, that they can't speak?, that they are innocent?, that they can't fire guns?, that they can't explode bombs?, or 'that they can't protest for their rights by killing innocent people and destroying national assets to get the government's attention. Cattles who were once revered partners in Hindu culture now suffer dreadful lives and abuse. Male calves are taken away from their mothers shortly after birth and sold to butchers. Did they come to this earth only to eaten by some hungry bastards? HOW COULD A LIVING GOD ALLOW THIS?" Animals, like man, are part of creation. The current environmental problems (and this is what I believe you are refering to here) are another similar consequence of the fall. By turning away from God, we have turned away from His creation as well. Similarily, if you don't like an artist and his style, you will not like his work, you will not care for it at least. There is however something. You refered to slaughtering animals for food, clothes, etc. In prehistoric times, this is precisely what people were hunting animals for; their own SURVIVAL depended on this nature they lived in. But don't forget that those people also had a greater respect for nature than we do now. The ancient pre-christian religions anywhere in the world (and you stated it very well with the Hindu religion) had thanksgiving cults for various aspects of nature, including hunting; Native Americans considered it a gift of nature to hunt animals for their survival. This leads me to say that Christianity is often wrongly and unjustly accused of detaching man from nature, hence the current situation. Reading what I said above, it is not true. When Christianity was an ideal in the European Middle Ages, men did not plunder their environment like they do today. The current situation begins precisely when they rejected Christianity and God, begining with the "Enlightenments" and the Industrial revolution. A person sincerely devout to God or divine truth would not seek to produce in polluting factories or dump toxic waste in nature. Today, it is true that we no longer need animal food as before, and meat is indeed proven to be unhealthy if consummed to often. If I have presonally nothing agasint eating meat, it must be in very reasonable quantity and we must always pay attention to wher it comes from and how animals were treated. To leave on a positive tone, these "ethical" practices are becoming more widespread today, precisely as a result of what you described and were --rightfully--horrified at. Phoebus.

GOD is DEAD and even if he isn't he hates us alllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. _________SLAYER______________

lmfao dun u guys know anythng of evolution of human beings. God didn't created us. its all a myth sad but true

. This is funny. My not so wise belief in GOD! God never existed in person. God ever existed in BELIEF. People when they came to EARTH, were not as wise as Aviator. ( not satirical ) People have a trend to do whatever they like. Different people with different philosophies and beliefs evolved as they grew wiser. THE MORE WISE YOU ARE, THE MORE DIFFERENT YOU WANT TO BE. All that you've written, aviator is the aftermath to this day. You really need to collect brains and get them under a single belief to make them do whatever you call GOOD! or else, they will follow whatever they feel GOOD. So, do we still hope for a CENTRAL BELIEF(GOD) and accordance to that belief ? or is the BELIEF being centralized out of the question! (dead) If you meant that , i say , centralized belief is next to DEAD.

ya phoebus, MAN HIMSELF IS THE CAUSE OF HIS HAPPINESS AS WELL AS HIS MISERY. & yes god surely has given us a free will,(i.e if god exists) but everything has limits na! we shouldn't be using our free will in a wrong way. and even if we do, not till the extent that affects all mankind. and if any1 does he/she should be punished and this is wat exactly i am talking abt & this is wat exactly god doesn't seem to be doin My dad is a meat fanatic also my sister and even my mom . it's just me who's vegeterian. actually i wouldn't even have raised an objection to it if it were not for the "pain" factor . i dread to put myself in the shoe of some1 who has been slaughtered . i dread to even think abt the pain they must have gone through.....

oldmaven.....i didn't start this thread to show that i am wise or to prove that i'm different . i just wrote wat i'd been thiking for quite a long time. y people had to kill people in a way that is so objectionaable.......i mean if i had to kill some1 , i would go and shoot him /her and just finish his/her chaper of life but not skinn him alive or break his leg or had and enjoy him suffer .........

Aviator who do u think is alive here ?

Phoebus, thanks for attempting to explain the existence of GOD. I truly hope that this will make some people curious about the TRUTH. And Aviator...good thing you started the thread.

God is Belief......Life is a Journey.....struggle and hardship are tests......Hell and heaven is a personal choice whereever.............Life is what you controll.....Death you do not..................Does God exist???......Free will...............

basically to waste time.

YES THE DOG IS DEAD.

GOd is an alien! ! HE is just mistaken identity.. ,,, Lives in some other planet..visits us through some High tech thing..LOLZ crzy God