hm, i studied whatever went down in nepali history textbooks. so i dont' know about all the other things prthivi narayan shah did. may be he was not so great after all hoina?

Birbhadra, Your explanation gives some clear concept about the kings of Nepal. Can you pls give me the name of a sigle person who contributed for Mother Nepal as a leader?

कसरि गरुँ म राजालाई सम्मान ? जनताको पसिना मा पौडि खेल्दै, देशको ढुकुटि रित्त्याएर बिदेश घुम्ने देशकै ढुकुटिमा छोरिको बिबाह तथा नातिको पास्नि मनाउने सम्पुर्ण भरौटेहरुको व्याक्तिगत खर्चलाई देशको ढुकुटी बाट “भैपरि आउने” मा खर्च गराउने बितेको “हनिमुन” लाई कहिले साउथ अफ्रिका त कहिले पोखरा मा मनाउने । जनताको आवाजलाई बन्द गराउन टियर ग्याँस तथा गोलि चलाउने नरभक्षक् हौ तिमि, हरेक दिन गोलि चलाउँदै जनता मार्ने माओवादिको निउ बनाउँदै, देशमा निरङकुश तानाशाह लाद्ने जनताले चुनेको सरकार लाई असक्षम् बताउने । २१औँ शताब्दिमा पनि राष्ट्रलाई अँध्यारोमा धकेल्ने कहिले टेलिफोन लाइन काट्ने त कहिले इन्टरनेट नै बन्द गराऊने रेडियो तथा पत्र-पत्रिकामा सेन्सरशिप लगाऊने पत्रकार तथा वकिलहरुको समुहलाई गोलि ठोक्ने हरेक राष्ट्रवादि, प्रजातन्त्र प्रेमि नेताहरुलाई नजरबन्दको पुर्जि थमाउने मानवताको हनन् गरि बच्चा-बच्चीलाई निर्मम्तापुर्वक गोलि ठोक्ने । देश जलिरहेको बेला, जनताहरु प्रजातन्त्रको लागि बलिचढीरहेको बेला दरवार भित्र पार्टी मनाएर बस्ने ज्योतिषिको कुरा सुनि कतै मर्छु कि भन्ने डरले पोखरामा लुकेर बस्ने निहत्था जनताको घर भित्र पसि निर्मम्ता पुर्वक कुटपिट गर्न लगाउने पुरै देश उर्लेर खनिइसक्दा पनि “छिटपुट घटना मात्र” भनि भाषण दिने देशका पवित्र मुर्तिहरुलाई विदेशमा पुर्याउने बिदेशि लागु औषधको व्यापार दरबार बाटै गराउने विश्वकै दुर्लव जनावर बिदेशिलाई भेटि चडाउने आफ्नै दाज्यु तथा भाईको जरै देखि विनाश गर्ने । भन्नुस साथिहरु म कसरि सम्मान गरुँ उन्लाई???

So BinodB, Do u respect girija?madhav?parchada?Shere?Thapa?.See the point is no body respects anybody in nepalese politics .Do i respect Ganendra?No.but point is not whether respecting him.The point is do we need Ceremonial king ?or not?and why do we need king if we need king.

Panas it is very difficult to cite an examplary leader in our country not because we have none but because we want a leader just like Raja Raam you know it is not possible. here is what one intelligent nepali woman once said : "Eventhough Grija, Makune ... may be corrupt, their institution is democracy which relies on the support of the people, mandate from the people. on the other hand King's institution is monarchy which relies on power of the army not the people. this one fact is good enough to side with the political leaders over king." hats off to her.

ifc123 you are right prithivi narayan chopped off noses and ears of women and man of kirtipur after (mind you!) conquering kirtipur. he had a grudge over kirtipurians b/c it took him several attemps and severe losses to take over and win it. (i think the famous kalu pade was killed in one of the battles with kirtipur) I used to feel so proud when i read those nepali bravery in the history book. to top it off my birth and prithivis birth is the same day (of course different year) which is poush 27. now knowing all the facts i now feel prithivi was just a imperialistic BADshah who dreamed to be the king of a grand country (which is fair for the king in those days) but to label his efforts of self-gratification as contributor to the unification of nepal is not correct eventhough the end result implies that. also we are not accounting several thousands warriors who lost their lives for this cause.

Harey ajhaaai jhagada gardai raichan... :D Guys stop diggin' up the past and blamin' each others... eh!!! Kahile siddhine bhayena... Everybody talks about the future and we are friggin' stuck in the past... By the way, King is dead. :D -- down in the "heartbreak hotel" while he was doing his "jailhouse rock"... eh!!!

Bir Bhadra ji , Show me one good development in 10 years of democracy by the politicains, janta le gare neta haru bhutro ke gare.I am against this shah dynasty, but don't tell to Prithvi narayan shah, if he wouldn't have done may be u and I would have been indians, To me u look one pathetic guy who just want to support India. Whne u write do it in logic way, u don't have to go extreme way to show ur anti king even going after prithvi Nrarayan shah, behave ina educated way. no one is here supporter of kinG G but that doesn't mean u start writing against everyone.

I am for both King & Democracy. This way we can have check and balance over both Monarchy & Politicians. We do not need to copy our neighbour or any other western country. yes, King may or may not have corrupt. But let us not forget that since 1990 Nepal became the worst country. The maoists terrorists were miniscule in numbers during early 1990s after democracy. GP, Makune etc justsat on their arses and did nothing for remote regions starting from western Nepal. Prachanda and gang of terrorists knew that Hinduism is an obstacle to what he had planned 'revolution' and so he started from western Nepal. Reason, because at that time western Nepal people were not too much into Hinduism, this is fact. Well GP and all other rotten crook-poiliticians did nothing. Prachanda the number one terrorist with the help from Chinese & Indian commies was able to take adavntage of all the useless politicians. In remote regions no one except some NGOs visited the needy people. Here went the maoists terrorists and terrorised innocent men/women/children and now you know part of 'worst history of our peaceful Nepal'. Since mid 1990 to-date 14,000 innocent people were killed by Prachanda. HE MUST BE BROUGHT TO BOOKS. There is rumor in Nepal that he is going to give a speech in Tasikhel in two-weeks. WISH I WAS SOMEONE IN POWER, I WOULD HAVE SEEN TO IT THAT HE IS ARRESTED & HANGED PUBLICLY. LET US NOT USE BAD WORDS, LET US SHOW TO NON-NEPALESE WHO READ OUR BLOGS THAT WE CAN ARGUE IN A DECENT MANNER. I HOPE AT-LEAST ONE NEPALESES BROTHER OR SISTER AGREES WITH MY VIEWS THAT WE NEED BOTH KING & DEMOCRACY. The only problem for democracy in Nepal is that literacy rate is only 40%. Therefore, I wish to Pashupatinath that no one exploits the innocent men, women & children of Nepal in name of 'democracy'. It is my view that without King checking the politicians and vice-versa Nepal will be in big trouble. This is, once again, my personal opinion. Let us argue decently. Let there be peace once again in Nepal.

manish, there has already been enuff discussion about misdeeds from shah dynasty. king and democracy is like seeing 2 sides of coin in Nepal. It's not just gonna work unless u've brilliant idea.

Well nepal came into existence because of prithivi's ambition. but at the cost of what? Nepal basically became a country of bahun and chettri. what about he indigeneous people they have lost their language their culture and identity. i am not questioning prithivis contribution in uniting nepal. however i refuse to credit him as a national hero or what ever. royals are scumbags . if you love prithivi i have no problem with that however it is not going to stop me from speaking out the truth. he did do all the things i have listed above. go ask kirtipurians. how he cut noses of the brave fighting kirtipurian women because he couldn't win them easily.