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When the news is bought for by vaccine corporations
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independent
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https://fb.watch/8M2KewzK_7/
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Mr33Sajha
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oh man this is ridiculous you dont even know what source you are citing. anyway I rest my case. I am done for today in this thread.
bbmb
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My 2 cents to Mr33Sajha. Never wrestle with the pig. Both gets dirty and pig like it that way.
p14nd3m1c
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I told you I share things that make sense. I don't care who shared it. I am not discriminatory and intolerant like you. Even a 2 yr old can say the truth. Even a killer can say the truth. Looks like you would have a problem if the killer said "there are 24 hours in a day".

You are better off being done here because you apparently do not have the mental juice to carry on a conversation without showing how out of touch you are.
p14nd3m1c
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Yes and pigs are smarter than the sheeps any day of the week. RIP.
Mr33Sajha
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"I told you I share things that make sense. I don't care who shared it. I am not discriminatory and intolerant like you." - this is true you don't discriminate whether it is true or false, u believe it naively.

"Even a 2 yr old can say the truth." - if u didnt know this is known as possibility
"Even a killer can say the truth." - this is also a possibility
"Looks like you would have a problem if the killer said "there are 24 hours in a day"." - this is a fact so I dont have a problem with this.
Counter example is a killer is accused of killing 3 people and he admits killing 2 of them but not 3rd, so there is a possibility that he didnt kill the 3rd person, but there is also possibility that he killed but lying. with your logic what ever he says is true. by my logic it is a possibility since I dont have proof either way at current time.

"You are better off being done here because you apparently do not have the mental juice to carry on a conversation without showing how out of touch you are." - I dont have capacity to do mental gymnastics like you, as u r clearly incapable of understanding following problems:
1) the things you are saying about corruption are possibilities and I am reciting fact that taking covid vaccine has less mortality rate. We are arguing about possibilities vs facts.
2) u dont know what source you are sharing as admitted by you, you see it in internet you start reciting as facts (look back at your own I dont discriminate statement)

"Yes and pigs are smarter than the sheeps any day of the week. RIP." - so you admit that you are a pig, for the record I dont admit I am a sheep. You know what pig eats right?

Even now if you dont understand my point then its ok dude, u do you. I dont want to go in circles any more with you. and if u feel like arguing with me more please re-read this post again and again until u understand we are talking about facts vs possibilities. Peace out.

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p14nd3m1c
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Haha you are like CNN bending my every statement to suit your need. You are beginning to sound desperate at this time. People have seen how weak your comebacks are. Keep it flowing but don’t write essays noone has time to read all that. You must have lost a lot of sleep last night because of my schooling you that you stayed up late to write a big essay. 🤣🤣

You should write another essay on how well sheeps follow, obey and comply and can’t think for themselves and they want to attack others who think for themselves like the shiv sena religious fanatics.

You know what fanatics are good at doing? They are good at being fanatic with blind faith. We can just feel sorry for that kind of mentality. 😌
Mr33Sajha
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just wanted to make this last statement not an argument
"Haha now you are resorting to haha huhu to make your point look stronger ..." you know you are a special needs when your own post starts owning you and cant come back with a substance so u come back with insults.
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independent
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This is getting ridiculous. Can you go troll your own thread and leave my thread allone unless you have anything to add to my original topic.
p14nd3m1c
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Sorry this is going to be my last statement here too. Mr33sajha you started the haha huhu as I pointed out and then I started the haha huhu as it seemed like thats the level of discussion you want to stoop down to. I had to stoop to your level and I simply started responding to you in your level. No insults were intended but if you perceived them it’s your prerogative.
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This could be all part of a grand design. Covid-19 could have been developed in lab, pharmaceutical mafia could have some vested interests…. and so on and on. But there is no denying in the efficacy of vaccine. It’s beyond our control. It’s like some one poisons you and then they try to sell you an antidote. Would you buy the antidote and survive or would u reject the antidote and rather die ? The choice is yours.

On the same note regarding grand design, here is a documentary abt market crashes and central banks
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAY&feature=share
bairaghi
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Covid-19 is real and vaccine is real. I wont wish it on my enemies. It can turn someone’s life upside down, like it did mine.
logan
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ब्रो: अंग प्रत्यारोहन को प्रतीक्षा ४ देखि ५ बर्स लाग्छ , हाल सुँगुर को मृगौ सफलतापुर्बक प्रत्यारोहण गरे | तपाइँ र तपाइका परिवारका निकटम सदस्य मृगौला फेर्न लाइ पर्खेर बस्नु भएको छ | यस अबस्थामा तपाई सुंगुरको मृगौला प्रत्यारोहणको लागि तयार हुनुहुन्छ? कि अर्को २ - ३ बर्स यो पछि यसमा थप सुधार हुने र विश्वास योग्य हुन्जेल पर्खिएर बस्नु हुन्छ ? कि कोभिड आफै निको हुन्छ, यो ठुला ठुला फर्मा कम्पनीको नोट छाप्ने मेलो मात्रै हो भनि प्रत्यारोहण नगर्न सल्लाह दिनु हुन्छ ?


independent
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Logan, not everything is black and white like your example. There is a great concept of placebo effect that you have to consider as well. On top of that, the narrative on the vaccine has kept changing from day one. Vaccines are supposed to stop person from getting infected with the virus. Many people keep getting infected even after the vaccine while lot of people without vaccines are not infected in the same setting. So you don't know even if the vaccine is effective or it's just the placebo effect. The mind and the body are very powerful agents in the universe. The universe has many medicines to ailments which are more powerful than any man made stuff which thesedays are geared more towards profit than anything else. The medical industry wants to keep you their customer and they want you to keep coming back. That's the harsh reality whether you accept it or not. To make it worse, the politicans get kickbacks from these super profitable corporations and at the end of the day it ends up being your faith that makes you a believer or a skeptic. Noone is wrong because you base your belief on the exposure and experience that you get personally. But some things are very weird as far as covid and covid vaccines go.
Mr33Sajha
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Hi Independent, I am not trolling, just trying to have a rational conversation

"the narrative on the vaccine has kept changing from day one." - Science is always evolving. eg : in earlier days we used to consider only 3 states of mater now there is 4th.
"Vaccines are supposed to stop person from getting infected with the virus." - not sure about this, cause from when I know I knew about efficacy rate.
"Many people keep getting infected even after the vaccine while lot of people without vaccines are not infected in the same setting." - this is true, but mortality rate is higher in unvaccinated
"The medical industry wants to keep you their customer and they want you to keep coming back. That's the harsh reality whether you accept it or not." - this is true, capitalism
"the politicans get kickbacks from these super profitable corporations and at the end of the day it ends up being your faith that makes you a believer or a skeptic." - this is true, we need to take money out of politics
independent
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Mr33Sajha Always open for rational conversation. Keep it up. 

"the narrative on the vaccine has kept changing from day one." - Science is always evolving. eg : in earlier days we used to consider only 3 states of mater now there is 4th.

You are right in claiming that science is always evolving. But there is one crucial thing that you are missing. Science evolves slowly like it takes years for one scientific fact to change. For example science believed in 3 states of matter for decades if not century and then science gradually evolved to embrace 4 states of matter after much due process. Similarly difference perspectives of science such as the solar system and many other aspects have evolved gradually over time. But not the narrative on Covid and covid vaccine. In one year we have heard tens of contradicting and questionable statements attributed to science as if the people in power are taking advantage of the steadfast standing of science to spread their approved message with the threat to 'believe in science' otherwise you are dumb stupid, while at the same time manipulating the almost holy solid shrine of science into a sporadic faltering waves of changing facts attributed to evolving science. Thus hoodwinking the public into turning science into a belief systems like religion instead of an all encompassing emblem of truth or close identification thereof. "Vaccines are supposed to stop person from getting infected with the virus." - not sure about this, cause from when I know I knew about efficacy rate.

According to traditional definition of vaccines they are meant to stop the virus but now with the 'new' 'fast' evolving science more friendly towards the medical corporations, the definition is getting changed to something that decreases the effects of the virus, efficacy rate and what not.
"Many people keep getting infected even after the vaccine while lot of people without vaccines are not infected in the same setting." - this is true, but mortality rate is higher in unvaccinated

As mortality rate has been calculated erratically counting unrelated deaths as covid deaths in many institutions and using inaccurate testing methology of PCR testing to assert the death numbers, the whole statistics of covid is questionable if not just unbelievable.

"The medical industry wants to keep you their customer and they want you to keep coming back. That's the harsh reality whether you accept it or not." - this is true, capitalism

Agreed. That's why one needs to be extra vigilant with regards to covid which is being championed by this same industry.
"the politicans get kickbacks from these super profitable corporations and at the end of the day it ends up being your faith that makes you a believer or a skeptic." - this is true, we need to take money out of politics

Agreed.
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Mr33Sajha
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Hi Independent,

"Science evolves slowly like it takes years for one scientific fact to change. " - the discoveries in 1800s were so slow, but it evolved lot faster in 1900s, right now there are so many people studying covid and the known facts are evolving a lot in short period of time.

"As mortality rate has been calculated erratically counting unrelated deaths as covid deaths in many institutions and using inaccurate testing methology of PCR testing to assert the death numbers, the whole statistics of covid is questionable if not just unbelievable." - say if what you are saying is true and they are chalking it up as covid death as you said, then should not vaccinated death/hospitalization rate and unvaccinated be proportional? not lopsided on 1 side.
independent
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Mr33Sajha

This is definitely one of those discussions which is never going to end but we can agree on the following:

1. You could be wrong
2. I could be wrong
3. There is a growing concern that medical corporations are in cahoots with politicians to increase their profits

Let's end that that.

May be an image of one or more people and text that says 'The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. -Joseph Joubert'
Mr33Sajha
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1. You could be wrong - agreed
2. I could be wrong - agreed
3. There is a growing concern that medical corporations are in cahoots with politicians to increase their profits - agreed, I am all in for socialization of health care industry
4. till now data shows vaccinated individuals have less mortality rate and hospitalization rate
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independent
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5. Across history, we have seen data has been cooked many times to fit the narrative of the ruling class.
6. FDA has recalled many medicines that they had approved before
7. FDA approved medications have caused injury and death in the past.
Sanaklaal
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