oh now I am dhwas phukoing here ? Who started this thread ? Ohhh !! Mr. I am changing my last name for Nepal. lol !!  He wants our Kyabaath. La ta ek daam thuulo kaam garyau, taakma paunu parney. ha ha ha

BathroomCoffee · May 15, 2012 11:16 AM

हामि मात्र मानब हौ | न हाम्रो केहि जात हुनु पर्छ न त पहिचान , पहिचान हुनु पर्छ त सिर्फ मानवताको | येसरी, मानब-मानब बीचमा विभेद ल्याउने खालका जुन किसिमको संस्कृति अझ भन्नु पर्दा संकुचित विचारधारा जो सायद संसारको सबै देशहरुमा छ , त्यो नस्ट हुनु एकदम जरुरि छ | हामी कहाँ बाट आयो र हाम्रो इतिहास जस्ता कुराहरु पुराना भै सके | नया इतिहास रच्न जरुरि छ - एक पृथ्वी एक मानब | जब सम्म यो धारणाको बिकाश हुदैन तब सम्म आतंक, द्वन्द, लडाई, घृणा इत्यादिको क्रम जारि नै रहनेछ | शुरुवात प्रतेक देशमा बस्ने हरुले आफुलाई तेही देसको नामलाई अङ्गीकार गरि सांकेतिक रुपमा भएनी आफ्नो  जातीय पहिचानको नस्ट गर्नु हो र एउटा नया पहिचानको सुरुवात | एती गर्न सकियामा देश भित्र रहेका सबै एक हुने थिए होला - कल्पना गर्न सकिन्छ | कतिलाइ मेरो विचार नपच्ला तर अध्यात्मिक विचारधारा बोकेका मजस्ता हरुले भने एस्त कुरा उहिले पचाई सक्या छन् |

bittertruth · May 15, 2012 11:28 AM

I started this thread because I thought it was an interesting thing that the CEO was doing. I have not advocated the name changing. I will not be changing my last name. No. It's you who is jumping at your own conclusions. But I do support anyones right to change their names if they so feel without having to get approval from psycho maniac like you who think they know everything. Point out where I said I will be changing my last name? You live in your own imaginary world and make up things as we have seen many times in sajha. "आफुले पनि केहि गर्दैनन अरुले गरेको पनि सहदैनन. न त आफुले केहि गर्ने कोशिश नै गर्छन. खाली नचाहिने तर्क बितर्क राखेर आफै ठुलो देखाउन  र आफ्नो  ध्वाँस फुक्ने कोशिश निरन्तर गर्छन|"

grgDai · May 15, 2012 11:31 AM

Now I am a psycho maniac ? lol !! Ok Mr Smaat Intelligent sane person, you did not advocate but it comes pretty close when you say,"it might be a long shot but changing last name to "Nepal" may set a good precedence."  I think your needle is stuck on that vinyl cause you keep reapeating the same line over and over again. lol                    

BathroomCoffee · May 15, 2012 11:49 AM

After a certain bit of discussion, a debate starts losing its focus, and ultimately, its goal. Debators throw out logics and become adamant on their beliefs. I think we have reached that point. Geology Tiger's point is credible; I can see how the nay sayers could easily construe this group as Federal republic conspirators. Having said that, I still support the cause. And much like Grgdai, I might not change my last name but appreciate the gesture from those who have done so.

Kiddo · May 15, 2012 12:08 PM

तितो सत्य साथी, कुरा एकदम सही हो, तर मेरो तर्क के हो भने एक देशमा बस्ने सबै नागरिक भावनात्मक रुपमा एक हुनुपर्छ र अझ संसारकै मानवहरु पनि एक हुनुपर्छ । यति मात्र किन म त अहिंसाको पूजारी, कुनै पनि प्राणीको हिंसा गर्नु हुँदैन भन्ने मेरो मान्यता हो र सम्पूर्ण प्राणीमात्रको जय होस् यो मेरो मूल मन्त्र हो । यो त भए भावनाको कुरा, अब यथार्थताको कुरा गरौ । निश्चित रुपमा हामी को हौ र कहाँबाट आयौ भन्ने कुरा पुरानो भइसक्यो त्यसैले त त्यो हाम्रो ईतिहास भयो । तर ईतिहासलाई भावी पुस्ताको लागि जोगाउने जिम्मा पनि त हाम्रै हो । ल मानिलिउ हामी सबैले नेपाली थर राख्यौ, अब भन्नुस् के हामी साँच्चै नै उद्देस्यमा सफल हुन्छौ ? र के सबै यसो गर्न सहमत हुनेछन ? ल एउटा अत्यन्त जातीवादी व्यक्तीलाई जवर्जस्ती थर परिवर्तन गर्न लगाएर नेपाली रखियो रे, के भोली देखिनै उ सबै नेपालीलाई नेपाली मात्र देख्ने हुन्छ? के नेपाली थर राख्दैमा भोली देखि राइको नाक बाउनको जस्तो चुच्चो र बाउनको नाक राइको जस्तो थेप्चो हुन्छ ? भनाइको मतलब हामी सबै नेपाली हौ तर हाम्रो शाररिक रंगरुप एकै छैन, हाम्रो चालचलन एकै छैन र हाम्रो संस्क्रिती पनि एकै छैन । उहिलेको कुरा पुरानो भए पनि यही उहिलेकै कुराले गर्दा नै हामी वर्तमानमा एक अर्कोसँग यसरी फरक भएका हौ र यो हाम्रो यथार्थ हो । एक थरी नारी पुरुष बराबरी भनेर कुर्लनेसँग मलाई सार्है हाँसो उठ्छ । अरे बाबा प्रकृतिले नै अत्यन्त फरक खालको शरीरिक बनावट दिए पछी कि त सबैले सन्तोष पन्तको छोरोले जस्तै गर्नुपर्‍यो नत्र कसरी नारी पुरुष बराबरी हुन्छ ? हाम्रो मान्यता के हुनुपर्छ भने कोही पुरुष भएकै आधारमा अथवा कोही नारी भएकै आधारमा समाजबाट गरिने व्यवहारमा चाँही भेदभाव नहोस् । हो त्यसै गरी फरक अनुहार भएका र फरक संस्क्रिती बोकेका नेपालीहरु बिचमा त्यसैको आधारमा भेदभाव पनि नहोस् । जव कोही नेपाली यो जातिय सम्मानको भावनालाई आत्मसाथ गर्न सक्ने अवस्थामा पुगिसक्छ तव उसले नेपाली थर राख्नु र नराख्नुले खासै फरक पार्दैन । अनि जवसम्म उसमा त्यो जातिय सम्मानको भावना पलाएको हुँदैन उसले नत नेपाली थर नै राख्ला र राखे पनि त्यसले कुनै फरक पार्दैन । फेरी पनि म भन्छु सबभन्दा ठुलो परिवर्तन व्यक्तिको भावनाको हो नामको होइन । गधालाई गाई नामकरण गर्दैमा त्यसले भटाभट दुध दिन त सुरु गर्दैन नि, गर्छ र? म पनि जमानामा जोन लेनिनको इम्याजिन सुनेर सारा संसारको मान्छे सबै एक हुनुपर्छ भन्ने भावनामा बगेको मान्छे र अझै पनि मेरो मनको एउटा कुनामा त्यो बाँकी नै छ । ज-जसले जातिय सम्मानको भावनालाई आत्मसात गरेर आफ्नो थर नेपाली राख्नु भएको छ उहाँहरुलाई मेरो सलाम । तर नेपाली थर राखेकै भरमा म सबैलाई यसरी सम्मान गर्दिन, मेरो मूल्याकंन नाममा होइन काममा आधारित हुनेछ र म आफ्नो थर नेपाली पनि राख्दिन । तर म यति कुरामा ढुक्क छु मेरो मन पनि ती नेपाली थर राख्नेहरु भन्दा कम नेपाली चाँही छैन । Last edited: 15-May-12 12:34 PM Last edited: 15-May-12 12:36 PM

Geology Tiger · May 15, 2012 12:22 PM

BC you have already discredited yourself multiple times in just this one thread. You need to take it as a clue to your state of mental disarray and perhaps go get some medical help. You are suffering from delusion. You have created false statements multiple times to support your inexistent point. Last edited: 15-May-12 01:11 PM

grgDai · May 15, 2012 1:07 PM

Halo nepali. There. Our caste does not define us. We are nepali first and foremost.

halo · May 15, 2012 1:17 PM

धेरै छ गर्नु स्वदेशको सेवा नेपाली बन्नलाई, शिर ठाडो पारी नेपाली भन्ने म नै हुँ भन्नलाई, हैन भने नेपाली नभन, वीरको छोरा नातिमा नगन नेपाली हुन पूर्व जनमको कमाइले पुग्दैन, पूर्खाको पौरख, श्रम र आशिष मात्रैले पुग्दैन, नेपाली हुन पवित्र आत्मा नेपाली चाहिन्छ, नेपाली चाहिन्छ .. पराया मुटु दौराको फेरले छोपेर पुग्दैन, हैन भने नेपाली नभन वीरको छोरा नातिमा नगन महाकाली मेची हो भन्छन नेपाल, म भन्छु मानचित्र वास्तविक नेपाल छ भने कतै नेपाली मनभित्र सबैले मन खोलेर भन जय जय नेपाल, जय जय नेपाल भन्यौ कि बन्यो नेपाल सुन्दर शान्त र बिशाल हैन भने नेपाली नभन वीरको छोरा नातिमा नगन सबैले मन खोलेर भन जय जय नेपाल, जय जय नेपाल गोपाल योन्जन Last edited: 15-May-12 01:33 PM

Geology Tiger · May 15, 2012 1:31 PM

In the eyes of animals, we're human. They don't recognize human by their caste and religion. I agree we're brought up in this time and culture where we human feel very proud to feel distinguised from each other. I perceive things from little above than that established paradigm. I see every human as a human. It's interesting to know though where s/he comes from and under what circumstances s/he was brought up. Other than that, I don't really find it meaningful to create feelings and emotions based on someones ethnicity or locality or race. But the irony is we're busy at judging eachother based on their ethnicity or locality or race. This is ridiculous. In the post above, I didn't imply that one has to have his/her lastname changed, but if you infered that way, I've nothing to say. My point was that we should treat eachother as a human regardless of anything that comes in between, after all we are human on planet earth. Try to see things global, not in constricted manner. And regarding to the physical attributes you mentioned like "के नेपाली थर राख्दैमा भोली देखि राइको नाक बाउनको जस्तो चुच्चो र बाउनको नाक राइको जस्तो थेप्चो हुन्छ ?" , Blame it to mother nature. She shapes us based on the environment we're grown up. I just remembered a lab experiment done several years ago where bacteria of same pool of gene when placed and grown in three different environments, after months, they showed astonishingly different physical and gene characteristics from what they were once. This mutation totally baffled scientist and they concluded that environment does matter in the growth of organism. What I'm saying is I already quit narrow thoughts like that long ago. I don't find myself in the boat full of educated morons anymore. Is it time to wake up??  My facebook has Location as :Planet Earth My religion :Humanity My Race: Human .

bittertruth · May 15, 2012 1:40 PM

BT bro I think we are talking about same idea in different ways.  No two DNAs are alike and I don't want to blame mother nautre for this because this is what brought you and me and all different biological species into existence. Biological diversity is the law of nature not an exception.  So I like to conclude my part of discussion in this thread by saying that we human beings are equal but not the same and all of us must be treated equally regardless of our ethinicity, sex and geographical diversity.  

Geology Tiger · May 15, 2012 2:18 PM

Enough of discussion. Let me present a very much related, funny but real piece of information. This is an exerpt from Nepal's first law book, issued in B.S. 1910. Courtesy: mysansar. Let's just say, for those who are opposing this cause, I am willing to pay 5 rupees for the crime listed in bullet 1 of the exerpt.

Kiddo · May 15, 2012 2:36 PM

Grg ok I have multple times discredited myself. ha ha ha   I am a lunatic and you are a SAINT.  Fine I will admit I am the bad apple and you are the best. lol!!!   Just reflects upon your mentality.  When people cannot argue with facts they resort to name calling.  ha ha ha  I will check myself into McLean Hospital and have a shrink check my delusion.  I guess even if I quote you word for word I am still making inexistant statement. ha ha ha You win I lose(thats what you want to hear right ?).

BathroomCoffee · May 15, 2012 3:15 PM

See you are totally out of touch with reality. You HAVE discredited yourself multiple times by making false statements that you had to take back. I never said I am a saint or that you are not. You are making up things again. You are the one who resorts to name calling everyone moron who doesn't understand your make belief false statements. You assume I want to hear things from you, but you are sadly mistaken. I am sure you know that throwing in bunch of "hahaha's" and "lols" and   does not make you funny! But you keep trying

grgDai · May 15, 2012 3:46 PM

जातीयताको लडाई लडाउने दुवै हातमा लड्डु , अरबौ को सम्पति बोकेर मदलिको नाच नचाएर बसेका छन् अनि बाकि हामि मदाली - हुन्छ प्रसाद देखि हुन्छ बहादुर सबै .

MaGorkhe1 · May 15, 2012 5:14 PM