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kalopani · May 18, 2011 5:13 PM

 Question.  Have your h1 been approved?  if yes, and the gap between your opt and h1 starting date is few months, then I would suggest you to take some GMAT class or GRE class to maintain your status. and starting Oct you can start working...

nyshangal · May 18, 2011 5:22 PM

 Zindabad,mero pani yahi samsya chha tara cap gap ma kam garna painchha bhanne suneko chhu.kohi expert le bhanidinu paryo/

granite · May 18, 2011 6:04 PM

@ Kalopani...yeah u r right... @ nyshangal....it's not approved yet...that's why I need CPT to keep working until it's approved...it might take some time...GMAT won't help coz they won't issue CPT...thanks for the info bro....

Zindabaad · May 18, 2011 6:04 PM

I hope we get some concrete answers broda...good luck to u....

Zindabaad · May 18, 2011 6:05 PM

Folks.....seems like you guys are not aware of some thing called cap-gap extension. If your H1B is approved or you have applied for H1B and have receipt , you will be allowed to work with expired OPT card. Do further research about Cap-Gap Extension. I am not aware of your exact situation but could be helpful.

meraj · May 18, 2011 6:08 PM

i know that taking GMAT and GRE will not give you CPT, i was telling because that will maintain your F1 status. If you have job and have already filed for h1B regular, try to make it premium. I got my H1 this year, I got it 2 months after my OPT was expired. I was in cap-gap and I was legally allowed to work. I had to pay FICA though. So the best thing is ask your employer to change your h1b filing to premium processing, Once you have your h1, you will be safe :) good luck

nyshangal · May 18, 2011 6:25 PM

Also talk to ur international academic advisor abt cap gap option if u have already applied for H1b for 2012

edipre · May 18, 2011 6:27 PM

Dude go through this and highlighted part.  Office of Communications Question and Answer April 4, 2008 (Revised April 10, 2008) EXTENSION OF OPTIONAL TRAINING PROGRAM FOR QUALIFIED STUDENTS Regulations Relating to Practical Training: What is optional practical training? Optional Practical Training (OPT) is temporary employment that is directly related to an F-1 student’s major area of study. Under the prior rules, an F-1 student could be authorized to receive up to a total of 12 months of practical training either before (pre-) and/or after (post-) completion of studies. • Pre-completion OPT: An F-1 student may be authorized to participate in pre-completion OPT after he or she has been enrolled for one full academic year. The pre-completion OPT must be directly related to the student’s major area of study. Students authorized to participate in pre-completion OPT must work part-time while school is in session. They may work full time when school is not in session. • Post-completion OPT: An F-1 student may be authorized to participate in post-completion OPT upon completion of studies. The post-completion OPT must be directly related to the student’s major area of study. What is the application process to participate in pre- or post-completion OPT? • Students must initiate the process by requesting the Designated School Official (DSO) at their academic institution to recommend the OPT. The DSO makes such recommendation by endorsing the student’s Form I-20 and by making appropriate notation in SEVIS, the system used to track F-1 students. • Students then file Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization Document (EAD), with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). If approved, USCIS will issue an EAD to the student. • The student may begin engaging in pre- or post-completion OPT only after an application has been approved and an EAD has been issued. How many students stand to benefit from this interim final rule? ICE records indicate that there are approximately 70,000 students currently in OPT and, of those, about 23,000 are studying in Science, Technology, Engineering, or Mathematics (STEM) fields. Some of these students will be selected for an H-1B to start in October 2008. Others may choose Office of Communications to continue their education, while some will depart the United States. ICE and USCIS estimate that approximately 12,000 will take advantage of the STEM extension. What is the maximum duration of post-completion OPT under this interim final rule? Under the new rule, certain students will be eligible to receive a 17-month extension of post-completion OPT. Do the periods of pre-completion OPT count against the available periods of post-completion OPT? Yes. All periods of pre-completion OPT are deducted from the available periods of post-completion OPT. Are there fees associated with filing for extended OPT? Yes. USCIS charges $340 when an applicant files a Form I-765 for optional practical training. When must a student apply for an OPT extension? • Under the prior regulations, F-1 students had to apply for post-completion OPT prior to graduation. • This rule allows F-1 students seeking initial post-completion OPT to apply during their 60-day departure preparation periods in the same way that they are allowed to apply for a change to H-1B status during their departure preparation periods. • Students may apply for an OPT extension at any time prior to the expiration date of their current OPT period. Is there additional post-completion OPT available to students working in the high-tech industry? • F-1 students who receive science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) degrees included on the STEM Designated Degree Program List, are employed by employers enrolled in E-Verify, and who have received an initial grant of post-completion OPT related to such a degree, may apply for a 17-month extension. • This extension of the OPT period for STEM degree holders gives U.S. employers two chances to recruit these highly desirable graduates through the H-1B process, as the extension is long enough to allow for H-1B petitions to be filed in two successive fiscal years. What are the eligible STEM degrees? • To be eligible for the 17-month OPT extension, a student must have received a degree included in the STEM Designated Degree Program List. This list sets forth eligible courses of study according to Classification of Instructional Programs (CIP) codes developed by the U.S. Department of Education's National Center for Education Statistics (NCES). • The STEM Designated Degree Program List includes the following courses of study: o Computer Science Applications o Biological and Biomedical Sciences Office of Communications o Actuarial Science o Mathematics and Statistics o Engineering o Military Technologies o Engineering Technologies o Physical Sciences o Science Technologies o Medical Scientist • The STEM degree list is included in the preamble to the interim final rule and will be posted on the ICE website. • Note that to be eligible for an OPT extension the student must currently be in an approved post-completion OPT period based on a designated STEM degree. Thus, for example, a student with an undergraduate degree in a designated STEM field, but currently in OPT based on a subsequent MBA degree, would not be eligible for an OPT extension. What are the eligibility requirements for the 17-month extension of post-completion OPT? • The student must have a bachelor’s, master’s, or doctorate degree included in the STEM Designated Degree Program List. • The student must currently be in an approved post-completion OPT period based on a designated STEM degree. • The student’s employer must be enrolled in E-Verify. • The student must apply on time (i.e., before the current post-completion OPT expires). What is the E-Verify program? • The E-Verify program is an Internet-based system operated by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in partnership with the Social Security Administration (SSA). • The E-Verify program currently is the best means available for employers to determine employment eligibility of new hires and the validity of their Social Security Numbers. • E-Verify electronically compares information contained on the Employment Eligibility Verification Form I-9 with records contained in SSA and DHS databases to help employers verify identity and employment eligibility of newly-hired employees. Is there a cost associated with employers participating in the E-Verify program? • No. E-Verify is a free, easy-to-use web-based system available to employers and in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. What is the application process for the 17-month STEM extension? • The student files Form I-765 with USCIS, Form I-20 endorsed by the DSO, a copy of the STEM degree, and the required application fee. • Form I-765 is being amended to require the student to indicate the degree and provide the employer’s E-Verify information. • If their post-completion OPT expires while the 17-month extension application is pending, students who timely filed their STEM extension applications with USCIS will receive an extension of employment authorization after their current employment authorization expires, but for no more than 180 days. Office of Communications What must a student do after being granted the 17-month STEM extension? • The student must report to his or her DSO (within 10 days) any change in: o Legal name; o Residential or mailing address; o E-mail address; o Employer name; o Employer address; • The student must also report to his or her DSO every six months, confirming the information listed above; even if there have been no changes. • The requirement to report continues if the student’s 17-month STEM extension is extended further by the automatic cap-gap extension. Regulations Relating to F-1/H-1B Cap-Gap: What is the H-1B cap? The cap is the congressionally-mandated limit on the number of individuals who may be granted H-1B status during each fiscal year. For FY08, the cap is 65,000, with certain statutory cap exemptions. What is the F-1/H-1B “cap-gap”? Cap-gap occurs when an F-1 student’s status and work authorization expire in the current fiscal year before they can start their approved H-1B employment in the next fiscal year beginning on October 1. An F-1 student in a cap-gap situation would, in most cases, have to leave the United States and return at the time his or her H-1B status becomes effective at the beginning of the next fiscal year. Depending on when the student’s status expires, such circumstances could require the student to remain outside the United States for several months. How does cap-gap occur? • Under the prior regulation (and unchanged by this rule), an employer may not file, and USCIS may not accept, an H-1B petition submitted earlier than six months in advance of the date of actual need for the beneficiary’s services or training. • As a result, the earliest date that an employer can file an H-1B petition for consideration under the next fiscal year cap is April 1, for an October 1 employment start date. If that H-1B petition and the accompanying change-of-status request are approved, the earliest date that the student may start the approved H-1B employment is October 1. • Consequently, F-1 students who are the beneficiaries of approved H-1B petitions with October 1 employment start dates, but whose periods of authorized stay (including authorized periods of post-completion OPT and the subsequent 60-day departure preparation period) expire before October 1, are in many cases required to leave the United States, apply for an H-1B visa at a consular post abroad, and then seek readmission to the United States in H-1B status. Office of Communications What were the prior cap-gap regulations for F-1 students? • The prior regulations addressed the cap-gap problem by authorizing an extension of an F-1 student’s authorized stay, but they did not extend the student’s employment authorization. This extension was not automatic; a notice had to be published in the Federal Register announcing the extension. • Under the prior regulations, when this Federal Register notice was published, the student’s authorized stay was extended, but not the employment authorization. This meant the student could remain in the United States until October 1, when the approved H-1B employment began, but could not work until then. • If a Federal Register notice authorizing an extension was not published, affected students would in many cases be required to leave the United States, apply for an H-1B visa, and seek readmission to the United States in H-1B status. How is the cap-gap situation changed under the interim final rule? • F-1 academic students on post-completion OPT maintain valid F-1 status until the expiration of their OPT. Once that OPT has ended, they are authorized to remain in the United States for up to 60 days to prepare for departure. • Under this rule, the F-1 status of students is automatically extended when the student is the beneficiary of an H-1B petition for the next fiscal year (with an October 1 employment start date) filed on his or her behalf during the period in which H-1B petitions are accepted for that fiscal year. • The automatic extension terminates when USCIS rejects, denies, or revokes the H-1B petition. • If the H-1B petition filed on behalf of the student is selected, the student may remain in the United States and, if on post-completion OPT, continue working until the October 1 start date indicated on the approved H-1B petition. • The student may benefit from this provision only if he or she has not violated his or her status. – USCIS –

granite · May 18, 2011 7:33 PM

Thanks for the info guys....I think I shld discuss all these with my employer....

Zindabaad · May 18, 2011 8:02 PM

If you are on OPT and applied for your H1B before your OPT expired, your OPT automatically gets extended till Sept 30 under Gap rule. You can contact you international advisor to get an updated I20 if you want.

mankokura · May 18, 2011 11:12 PM

  If your H1 is approved, then contact your international office. They will issue you a new I-20 for that gap period. I am on the the same boat. My H1 got approved, and my OPT expires on july. 

Mukurdhom · May 19, 2011 8:33 AM

thanks for the info mukurdhom.....

Zindabaad · May 19, 2011 9:36 PM

 Hi all, My post completion OPT is expiring within 15 days and my employer has filed H1B under premium process. I am just wondering if in case, H1B get  reject  or deny can I file for OPT STEM extension after my post Completion expire? Right now I can not file for OPT extension because my company is under process of E-verification? Please suggest me , what should I do? Thanks  

coolgal · Jul 28, 2011 2:41 PM

 What do you mean by   "because my company is under process of E-verification"? To get e-verified it takes around 15 mins.

granite · Jul 28, 2011 3:11 PM

 Hi I dont know about  e-verification process. But whenever I asked company HR they said  working on it.  Thanks

coolgal · Jul 29, 2011 8:01 AM